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* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * I basically use the three rules of thermo goddamnics:
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From: BRIAN DOLF Number: 2249
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 1:59p
Subj: question? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here is a question for anybodywho sell computer products. Is the price
of 10-20 dollars a real bargain or do ya think im getting ripped for
broken merchandice?
Hmmmmmmmm say an ad for them it said unused cd-roms so i was a little
suspicios ya know.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2250
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 09/01/93 2:11p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
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-> Hey! I really want Space Quest 5. I like the space quest series but I
-> favorite series would be the Police Quest Series. I beaten 1, 2, and
-> can't wait to number 4. Sqace Quest 3 is my favorite out of the space
-> series. I have CD-ROM drive but that is on the BBS so I can't use it
-> games. The BBS is networked but it is incredibly slow through the net
-> Dad says he's gonna get panasonic but I don't know when that will be.
-> played the Wolf 3D games? They are incredible! I've beaten games 1-6
-> but I haven beat any of the games in Spear of Destiny. Now Doom is su
-> come out soon and I can't wait to get that! Also Biomenace is pretty
-> I beat it the same day I got it. Well gotta go. L8R. :)
Space Quest 6 is full of puns as usual... It has a lot of mimicks from
Star Trek, but that makes it the more hilarious! How old are you? I'm
17.
Police Quest 3 is my favorite of the PQ's. SQ5 is my favorite SQ.
I don't have KQ6 yet, but want it. I love the Wolfensteins!!!! I haven't
played 2-6 yet, but I do have Spear Of Destiny! It's 20 levels. Not too
challenging. I beat all 20 levels in one day. Some of them were
familliar levels for some reason, I just knew how to get through a few
parts of it...
Anyhow, it's nice to see a fellow game enthusiast!
I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM myself, was only $200 with 16bit cont. and drive
only... Pretty good deal anyway..
I got to borrow Wing Commander 2 on CD from a friend! What an excellent
game! It blows the doors of WC1!!!!.
In 1 the frienly fighters were pretty much defenseless, but in 2 if you
shoot one 2 times, it says 'Stop him! He's a traitor!'. Then all
friendly ships in area attack you! You can't continue mission even if
you destroy all friendly ships.. It is SO cool! I'm going to get 1 and 2
deluxe on CD some time..
TTYL,
Henry
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2251
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 8:12p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon!
Wednesday August 25 1993, Gordon Peterson writes to Janusz Surowka:
JS>> oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc"
GP> It may not be your "thing", but hey, why shouldn't it be available to
GP> those who might be interested? A little bit of tolerance, please, for
GP> people whose interests might be different than your own.
We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
... Grow your own dope... plant a liberal!
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 2252
To: LEE NOGA, LION'S DEN SOFTWARE, FL Date: 08/31/93 10:21a
Subj: Catalog of art Refer: NONE
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Lee, I have your most excellent CD of Clipart, titled POWERPAK Series, Volume
II, PCX POTPOURRI, Encyclopedia of Clipart. I understood that you were coming
out with a printed catalog of the art on that CD. The art on the disk is
superb and I've used much of it many times in publications and brochures.
However, as I said when we talked before, there's so much art on it and the
names/titles aren't always exactly indictitive of what the art is, a catalog
would be a great help and would make the disk much more valuable. If the
catalog is now available, please send me one by air. If one is not yet
available, I'd really appreciate hearing when one would be available and how
much it'll be. My voice phone number is:
(907) 474-0685 and my mailing address is:
Stewart N. Rothman, The Lens Unlimited, 921 Woodway, Fairbanks, AK 99709
Thanks,
Stu
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 2253
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 1:36p
Subj: Corel Photo CD Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anybody have for sale the new COREL PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS CD-ROM ?
It contains 100 royalty-free Hi-Quality images
I just saw it advertised on page 10 in the Sept 93 issue of WINDOWS
Magazine for $49.95 suggested list. If anyone has it, please advise asking
price.
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From: MARTIN GOMEZ Number: 2254
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 11:21p
Subj: CD-ROM Trade? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anybody interested in trading cd games? I have:
1.Battle Chess
2.Where in The World Is Caremn Sandiego? DEluxe Edition
3.Mantis Experimental Fighter & Civilization (same cd)
If interested, please E-mail me.
Martin Gomez
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2255
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 7:45a
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles? They dn't have
> to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
>
BO> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem like
BO> there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
BO>
BO> Dr. CD
I beg to differ with you there Boris. You would be suprised at the number of
AppleCD 300 that are being sold, not to even count all the AV's that are
hitting the market with CDs installed. There IS a substantial market there if
you guys would just carry the disks and advertise...m2
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 2256
To: ED FEINS Date: 09/01/93 10:55a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ed Feins to All <=-
EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF>
EF> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA
Could you sell me 4 of them for $12.50? :) I really don't need all eight.
Steve
... 313-242-8792
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 2257
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/29/93 8:42a
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> Hi TOM,
MW> TG> Mark, it might be psychological, but they sure do sound better on my
MW> TG> $2000 computer than my $600 rack system!
MW> I don't doubt that you perceive a difference at all, I was just
MW> interested in what would make that difference. Is the software you
MW> speak of a digtal-to-analog converter? If that were the case, there
MW> could be a real difference depending upon phase correction and
MW> oversampling rates.
MW> Please tell me more...
I don't know if Multimedia Component System (MCS) is a DA converter.
Just that computer control seems to make it sound better.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2258
To: JOE HAYES Date: 08/28/93 12:46p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
[WEB LAN]
JH>Thanks or the info Don, Just wondering, will the WEB NOS work with the lanta
JH>2mbps cards?
Almost NOTHING except Lantastic will work with those proprietary boards.
It's almost like throwing money down the toilet.
JH>If so how much do they want for there software?
I bought a two-node demo version of WEB LAN for 10DM (about $6),
complete with full docs, at CeBIT in Germany in March or April.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2259
To: JOSEPH GAWLIKOWSKI Date: 08/28/93 12:48p
Subj: CDROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JG>Does anybody know approximately what read-write cdroms cost? And exactly
There are no read-write CD-ROM systems available yet, to the best of my
knowledge. There are write-once CD-ROM systems, they cost $4-8K.
JG>what are the advantages of a Scuzzy type CDrom?
They plug into SCSI adapters, which might save you a slot.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2260
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/28/93 12:56p
Subj: Explain Sound Cards to me Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR>generalize everything. First, you want a sound card that can handle
MR>16-bit data. So a 16-bit sound card will suffice. However, because a
Many 16-bit sound cards are still used by most games in 8-bit mode.
Unless you have a particular sensitivity or an overstuffed wallet, the
8-bit cards are usually sufficient for most people's casual purposes.
MR>sound. Most 16-bit sound boards can sample and playback TRUE CD sound
MR>however, there is a small catch..... signal-to-noise ratio. If your
MR>s-t-n ratio is very low, then you have the best clarity when playing
MR>back the smapled sound in CD quality. The higher the number, the more
MR>noise on playback.
Actually, it's the inverse. The bigger the signal-to-noise ratio
number, the less noise there will be on playback. Pre-Dolby tape
recorders used to get 45-55 decibels signal/noise ratio (depending on
the tape speed, 45db was quite mediocre), and Dolby C has raised that to
the 60's-70's. CDs and high quality power amplifiers have signal/noise
ratios of 100 or higher (which yield effectively NO audible noise at
all, even at quite high playback levels). Decibels are a log scale,
where each 3db represents twice the voltage level, and each 10db is
perceived as being roughly "twice as loud".
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2261
To: MICHAEL EVANS Date: 08/28/93 1:03p
Subj: Multi CD Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ME>Is there a multiple cd rom drive available for a BBS apart from the Pioneer
ME>disk unit ?
There are several others available, but not at competitive prices for
typical sysops. I've seen a German unit with two banks of 50 CDs (50 on
each side), and another unit with a rotating carousel, I think it holds
several hundred (300?) CD-ROMs. But you'll faint when you see the
pricing. :-((
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2262
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/28/93 1:09p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>TITLE: Precision Mapping v 1.5b **UPDATE** (Improved city search)
MS>DESCRIPTION: A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
MS>edit, draw, and print capabilities. ZOOM in on any city, right down to
MS>the zip code, area code, or even STREET! Look up addresses, measure
MS>distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
MS>for import to other programs! All in a user-friendly environment! Prc $88
How does that one compare to US Street Atlas?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2263
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/28/93 1:14p
Subj: Red Hot CDROM Specials Refer: NONE
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DC>PC Sig 12.................... 19.95
DC>Prophone '93 Business........ 24.95
I take it they fixed the missing-cities problem on that disc?
DC>Prophone '92 3 CD Set........ 31.95
GREAT price on that set.
DC>PC Sig 11.................... 18.95
What is the relationship between 11 and 12? Lots of dupes, just an
update, or are these completely different discs? Do these discs come
with file descriptions etc in any kind of standard easy-to-search
ASCII (not by just a proprietary search engine) format?
DC>So Much Shareware #3......... 26.95
That one sounds like a winner.
Sounds like it's just about time to order a new batch of goodies. I
presume you still have my credit card info on file?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2264
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 08/28/93 1:23p
Subj: WHAT CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GR>You might wanna check out the "CD-ROM a month" (in Toronto) which I
GR>believe is available internationally. If you order before October
GR>15th, 1993, it will costs only $99.95 for one year or $149.95 for two
GR>years. Regular price is $119.95 for one year and $179.95 for two years.
That sounds great. When is the first disc going to be ready to ship?
I'd be glad to subscribe to it. Do those prices include postage?
GR>If you're interested, you can called them (JANA Publishing) at 1-800-
GR>363-2083 (VISA/Mastercard) or 1-416-922-5597 FAX or 1-416-538-4673 BBS
GR>(nothing much in there...lousy setup...nobody's maintaining it).
Thanks, I'll have to look into that one. :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2265
To: BRAD JENSEN Date: 08/28/93 7:59p
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>Pioneer is coming out with a follow-on to the fanatastic 604X, that will
BJ>hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a list
BJ>about $3000.
That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
it.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2266
To: DON HANCOCK Date: 08/28/93 8:06p
Subj: FontMaster CD Library Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AG>14 Aug 93, Don Hancock writes to Arnie Gross:
AG> DH> Are these TT fonts? ATM? both? Actually I'm only interested
AG> DH> in TT, but $18 isn't too bad.
AG>As an example, here is the data on the four Avante Garde 60 point
AG>Landscape font files:
AG> AG600RPN.USL 228269 01-06-92 7:32a
AG> AG600BPN.USL 237017 01-06-92 8:53a
AG> AG600IPN.USL 262240 01-06-92 9:57a
AG> AG600XPN.USL 272444 01-06-92 11:13a
The FontMaster is a collection of 36 (?) font families in HP
Downloadable soft font format, in a wide variety of sizes and weights
(usually normal/bold/italic/bolditalic). It's a large collection of
variants, ideal for the HP laser printer owner who doesn't use TrueType
or ATM fonts, and who has the ability to convince their software (Word
Processor, desktop publishing program, or whatever) to use these kind of
fonts!
NOTE that the fonts are all in the US forms (i.e. they include NONE of
the foreign accented characters, or any characters above 7-bits
(decimal character 127))... that's what the *.US* means.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2267
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 2:35p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
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I have seen a few messages about starting a new echo for multimedia, and
other "branches" from this main echo. I for one, do not see that other
echo's would serve the purpose. I do, however, have some suggested
changes. Please make note of the changes:
This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads in
any form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim
Helton. Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also, as most
people are either selling them, or wanting to buy them, and Tim has no
objections to the topics of adult related material.
This echo has been serving you for 8 years or so. Presently, the
majority of the topics are multimedia related anyway, so I personally do
not see a need for a specific multimedia echo. This echo has been
instrumental in the developement, advertising, and promotion of CDROM
Technology, and it shall continue to do so in the future. Many of the
newcomers of this echo, simply do not realize just how insturmental it
has been in the industry. There has always been a desire to bring in
other echo's, but this one has remained tried and true to the users.
This echo basically contains information, reviews, help, and multimedia
topics (Sound Cards included) and the creation of other echo's would be
redundant to the FIDONET concepts.
I personally would like to make the above changes within the next 30
days, again, CDROMSALE would be for advertising and topics related to
adult discs, and this echo will be devoted to information, including the
ever popular topic of multimedia.
Please feel free to give me your input.
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-405-672-1708
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From: BARRY MEAD Number: 2268
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 12:53p
Subj: Sony 535 speedup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
After Talking to Sony and Trantor Systems (formerly Adaptek) I was told
that it is possible to speed up the Sony 535 drive by setting some
jumpers and using a different software driver. This arrangement
increases the size of the transfer buffer from 8k to 64k which smoothes
out the data transfer and allows programs like The 7th Guest to run on
the Sony 535 drive.
They no longer sell the upgrade. They want you to buy all new CD-ROM
drives for $459.00, so does anyone out there have this modification?
It is no longer available from Trantor or Sony! They tell you that it
did exist but they say that the support was too high so they
discontinued it. (They had to educate peoply about IRQ's and such).
Even though I assured them that I already know enough about my computer
and it's IRQ configurations they refused to sell me the product.
Please if anyone has this product call me at (602) 827-9413 or reply
with a private note on this echo. Thanks
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2269
To: CORKY CORCORAN Date: 08/31/93 9:59p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Whenever I reach a certain point in the game, my drive sits with the busy
> lgith blinking and doesn't do anything. Sierra said it was because their
> DMA
Hi,
Try non-DMA driver. It may solve the problem. TTYL
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2270
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 11:41p
Subj: Elysian Archive /Amiga Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Coming Soon!....
Elysian Archive
Welcome to the World of Amiga...
Finally, an Amiga CD-ROM designed for BBS'!..
* Games
* Utilities for all Amiga Models
* Tracker Modules(ST/NT/MED)
* Demos of commercial software
* Eurodemos
* Animations
* 24 bit images
* Programming
CD Specifications
* ISO9660 format; readable by Amigas and PC's
* File names are in 8.3 format for compatibility
* Over 6000 files
* Over 600 Megabytes
Produced by TFS
Published and Distributed by GroupWare
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From: BRUCE CLAUNCH Number: 2271
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 1:07p
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HELP!!
I just brought myself a new MB 386sx40mhz , when I installed everything but my
NEC scsi board everything works fine
but as soon as I put in the scsi sometimes power will not come on
the computer and when it does come on it locksup and the only way out is to
reset or power down I have changed the address setting
and still no luck, I have pulled the other cards to see which
one might have the conflict no luck there either.
everything does work in my old 386sx 25mhz.
so Please help me, I dont want to go back to the 25mhz
**((Bruce))**
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2272
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 9:39p
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES |
5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties (a)...$59
PRECISION MAPPING 1.5b * Newest release! Detailed street-level map.....$79
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2273
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 9:39p
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
- Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff (a).$29
PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 2274
To: RICHARD NIXON Date: 09/02/93 11:53a
Subj: Ati + 7th Refer: NONE
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ML> I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA...
ML> and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86%
ML> optimal on the video...
ML>
RN>A word of advice... if you are not going to run OS/2 or care little
RN>about tech support, the ATI should be a okay company to do business
RN>with. If you plan to run OS/2 or need drivers for other non-Windows
RN>operating system, then you might want to consider Orchid or some other
RN>company.
Check out the Cirrus Logic 542xx chipset based cards.
Latest issue of Computer shopper did a little servey of cards, and they blew
away even ATI's most expensive cards.
The CL's can be had cheeply, and I don't know about the 7th Guest (will be
getting my own copy soon :) but the cards are FAST (especially the Local Bus
one
I use with OS/2 <grin> but the ISA version is still respectable).
Eric
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 2275
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/02/93 11:58a
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>could by an optional 20 dollar controller to use the Panasonic with
RP>arguement doesn't make sense. The Panasonic offers allot of bang for
RP>the buck and is worthy of consideration.
Hey, you sound like you own one of these beasts... I have one also :)
Problem: I currently have it without drivers. Know where I can get them
easily? the ROM is a CR-523-B with the seperate 8 bit controller.
And, bonus question: Do OS/2 drivers exist for this combo, or just when it is
used with the SoundBlaster?
Thanks in advance
Eric
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2276
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 4:49p
Subj: U.S. History CD Refer: NONE
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I need a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled US History by the Bureau of Development.
CDROM to be used is an AppleCD 300. Request Price and shipping info..tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2277
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 4:51p
Subj: All about Science CD Refer: NONE
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I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled "ALL ABOUT SCIENCE" originally
distributed by Queue. Request price and shipping info..tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2278
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 4:53p
Subj: Comprehensive Review in Biology Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a CDROM entitled "Comprehensive Review in Biology" orignally
distributed by Queue. Request pricing and shipping info...tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2279
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 4:59p
Subj: Mayo Clinic Health Book Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled "Mayo Clinic Family Health
Book". Request price and shipping info..tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2280
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:04p
Subj: 800 College Boards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled "800 College Boards"
originally distributed by Queue. Request price and shipping Info...tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2281
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:06p
Subj: Classroom CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "CLASSROOM". Request pricing and shipping
info...tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2282
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:12p
Subj: Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia".
Request pricing and shipping info ..tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2283
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:14p
Subj: Famous Places CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Famous Places" by Jasmine Multimedia
Publishing. Request pricing and shipping info..tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2284
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:15p
Subj: Macademic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Macademic" by Quantum Leap. Request
pricing and shipping info...tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2285
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:52p
Subj: About Cows CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled "About Cows" from Quanta
Press. Request Price and shipping info...tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2286
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:55p
Subj: Anatomist¬ Refer: NONE
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I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled "Anatomist¬" by Folkstone
Design Inc.. Request pricing and shipping info...tks..m2
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From: RAY DYER Number: 2287
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 09/02/93 9:43a
Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Michael Konor to Brian Elfert <=-
MK> This one works fine out to 690 megs. With the new roms, I haven't had
MK> a problem and I've read everything off of the drive that's in the root.
That is about 70 minutes on the CD ROM. One quick test to see if your CD
ROM drive is capable of the maximum is to place a 70 minute CD in there
and head to the last track. I got a music CD with 74 minutes on it so it
can go beyond the limit of 700 Megs.
Oh yes, listening to a CD ROM on an audio player gets you a lot of white
noise in Stereo, and not mono. Since the CD is sampled at 45
KHz/channel, and the data is stored in analog mode, it is just like a
high-speed modem, so an audio CD runs at 150 Kbps thru your stereo. The
dual-speed CD ROMS just speeds it up to the Chip and Dale speed, but you
never hear it as most sounds on the CD are Sound Blaster VOC format and
plays back at normal speed.
What is really fun with the MM-Encyclopedias on an Audio CD player is
you hear on the one channel the sound effects of birds, and the other
channel is the sounds of instruments or other animals.
(I seem to be going on and on here!)
-Later
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From: MICHAEL OUJESKY Number: 2288
To: SYSOP Date: 09/02/93 10:58p
Subj: CDROM echo falls off backbone Refer: NONE
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According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo (CDROM) has fallen of the
echolist and will be removed from the backbone.
Later...
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2289
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 2:27p
Subj: tandy cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
anyone interested in puchasing a Tandy CD-ROM
here's some spec's
Tandy CDR-1000 CD-ROM $165.00 includes dely
Half Height / Internal
Controller / Installation Software
Caddlyless Loading
Plays Music CD's / Front Audio Jack
2 RCA Audio Outputs-Rear
Reads 630Mb CD's
Call RJ Kulman 718 968-9167
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2290
To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 08/29/93 2:28p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LC> Does anyone know what exactly should I need in order to see pictures fro
LC>CD?
LC>
LC> This is what I own:
LC>
video does not require anything special
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2291
To: JD BROWN Date: 09/02/93 7:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
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LR> The best network solution I have found for
LR> CD-ROM drives is a CD-ROM
LR> network called CD-SHARE.
JB> The best network solution I have found for multiple CDROMS, is
JB> OS/2 2.1 and Lan Server 3.0.
That's true. I should have said the best peer-peer DOS solution.
Les
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2292
To: ¢┘┘3LVW▄▄¼RB╟π█Ö>~RÇ≈∞ Date: 09/02/93 3:44p
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NOTE: This message was originally addressed to ROB MCINTYRE
and was forwarded to you by ROB MCINTYRE
--------------------
RM>What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
No Rob, it an educational CD package from the Joint Education
Initiative at College Park Md. Deals with Earth and Space Sciences.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: TOM ARRUDA Number: 2293
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 12:18p
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rowan,
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my cry for help, but it turns
out my SoundBlaster16 had a bad controller section. I returned the
card to Software ETC and they gave me a new one. Everything works
fine now except when I run the "Rebel Assault" demo on my Day Of The
Tentacle CD, both the audio and the video stagger and strobe.
Believe it or not it runs smooth on my friends Mitsumi LU500!!!
Regards, Tom Arruda
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 2294
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/31/93 4:50p
Subj: $9 CD SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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Mike,
If you have a catalog and/or Price List for All of your products please send
me one.
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
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From: INF0RMATI0N SURFER Number: 2295
To: RICK COOKE Date: 09/01/93 7:46p
Subj: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
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-=> Some guy, Rick Cooke, said this to Don Rieb <=-
RC> Apparently it was developed on the MAC. Too bad! Maybe there will be
RC> a DOS version in the near future. It looked like a fun program to
RC> 'Play' around with.
RC> Rick
How are the graphics? Digitized? Scanned? Drawn cartoon like?
Might anyone know? Another good disc to look at is called
"The Interactive Advntures of Seymore Butz". Totally captured
quicktime video and digitized sound. NICE!
Inf0
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 2296
To: SETH KLINE Date: 09/02/93 4:35p
Subj: Cd game prices Refer: NONE
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SK> How much do good game CD's cost? Like some good Sierra games like SP4,
SK> PQ4 etc? Please get back to me.
I've seen Sierra games for under $20 and newer title for over $30. Check the
CDROM_SALE conference, there are tons of ads there. And the occasion
"misplaced" forsale posts here.
I bought a sort of Sierra game, it's by Dynamix (their subsidiary) for $13.
It seems like prices range from $10-$50. Averages about $25-30.
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 2297
To: LISA HUTTER Date: 09/02/93 4:32p
Subj: My new cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to
LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's
LH> while working in Windows, etc...
You need a CD player program. Try looking for CDAUD.ZIP or CDPLAY.ZIP. Is
the CD-ROM drive hooked up to a sound card? If not, is there a speaker jack
on the front of the drive?
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From: DAVID HARRISON Number: 2298
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/02/93 10:11p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
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NB> DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
NB> KINGS QUEST V $16.74
NB> LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEA
NB> SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
NB> TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
My netmail addresses are: 1:124/1211, 777:717/6, 75:7214/19, 13:100/20,
150:151/100, and 362:214/101 (David Harrison)
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From: DANNY BANISTER Number: 2299
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/30/93 11:07p
Subj: Benchmark test for CDRO Refer: NONE
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>If you find one, tell me.
Pick up a CD called MPC Wizard by Aris. It should do everything your
looking for.
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From: TAMI THOMPSON Number: 2300
To: MICHAEL KESSLER Date: 09/02/93 7:39p
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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MK> What type of CD ROM would be good for a Amiga
MK> 2000. The CD ROM should be able to play photo
MK> CD's and of course be compatable with CD TV disks
MK> as well as PC CD's (Mods,gifs ect). Price should
MK> resonable if possible.
Well, we use a Toshiba 3200 external SCSI CDROM w/our A2000. We use the SCSI
controller that we already had for our hard drive. As far as playing photo CDs,
I can't help you there. To use the CDROM w/the Amiga you will need to purchase
a file system (for example, AsimWare, or Xetec). This will let you *read*
CDROMs (however, you will only be able to *run* CDTV disks (some, not all) or
other Amiga-specific disks. To run PC CDROMs you would need to use a
bridgeboard w/its own SCSI controller). We purchased our CDROM used for $200.
Good luck, and feel
free to ask any additional questions! -Tami
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2301
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/31/93 6:45p
Subj: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
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> >> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month"
> >> FF> clubs start
> >> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago?
> BF> CBS CD Club has been around appx. 10 years, not sure about the BMG
>DisK, floppy of the month clubs. I was attempting to point out that this is a
>fairly new technology, not well intrenched in the average home. While we're
>getting closer, I wouldn't expect a successful mass-market disc of the month
>club for about 6-18 more months. Nothing big for probably 2 years.
We have a "disc of the month" club around NOW for CD-ROMs - I saw their
literature at the One BBS Con....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2302
To: MARC CIRCOSTA Date: 09/01/93 12:52p
Subj: Q'S ON THESE NEW PANASONI Refer: NONE
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> Lately I have been reading with intrest about the Panasonic 562/563b drives,
>- Will they connect to a PAS16
NO. There might be a SCSI version of these drives that is compatable with the
PAS16, though.
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From: DUSTIN GILL Number: 2303
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 1:44a
Subj: cd game Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I got indiana jones and the lost city of atlantis on CD-ROM. I think its
aWesome With the voice. Damn if it Wasnt on cd then it Would take up 160
megs.
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From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 2304
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 7:56a
Subj: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris Osadciw,
In a message on 01 Sep 93, at 01:44, you wrote to Bob Shuster saying:
>>> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles?
>>> They dn't have to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
BO> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem
BO> like there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
Boris,
Please do! :-) Though, personally, I don't run a Mac, I keep an eye out
for a number of friends who do, in one notable case, my boss who just purchased
a 660 AV with CD... Since part of his reason for doing so was because I was
"willing" to help him find "good" CD's to use with it, I'd be grateful if you'd
post some of the Mac titles from time to time...
Thanks.
PS... the job you save, may be mine! :-)
John
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 2305
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 7:38p
Subj: Dealers Wanted !!! Refer: NONE
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==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Darrel Rivenbark
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
1-800-865-5354
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From: DAVE TERRELL Number: 2306
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/03/93 9:22a
Subj: Modems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ian...You are the first person I have heard of that also has(had) a
Dallas Fax modem. I bought one more than a year ago. It was the but it was
just called the Dallas Fax 9696. I had loads of trouble with it in the
beginning, but managed to make a call to the company when they still worked.
It takes a humongous init string to make it work. Seems the factory settings
weren't good enough. Mine came with MTEZ Fax/Modem software, by Magic Soft.
It worked ok thru that but I still had problems. Anyway, I loaned it to a
friend of mine since I have a new system, but will be glad to try to help. My
home number is 904-286-6541 or BBS number is The Phantom's Lair at 904-286-5575
and you can leave a message there 24 hours a day. Good Luck.
And thanks to all of you for putting up with the both of us for being in the
wrong echo for this topic. I'm sure all of you know the frustration of having
something that doesn't work and not getting help from the company.
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From: DAVE TERRELL Number: 2307
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/03/93 9:40a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Hello Bob...couldn't agree with you more. Expanding to another form of CDROM
echo can only help those of us that don't understand all there is about it. I
know the other echo would be for advertising, but then it would free this one
of the multitude of advertising that is done on it! I am not complaining about
the advertising as it is a very useful tool for competition and helps us all
find the best seller with the best price. This echo could also include any
problems or fixes and/or opinions on software too! We all like to hear about
games and programs before we buy them. That's business. Great idea and thanks
to you I'm sure things will only get better.....DAVE
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2308
To: RONALD LEON Date: 09/02/93 7:08p
Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ron. The OS/2 update package is available to anyone with a previous
version of OS/2 OR any prior DOS.... So most all of us would qualify. Hurry
though. Ends soon I think (9/30?).
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2309
To: MICHAEL KESSLER Date: 09/02/93 7:10p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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Hi Mike. Might be willing to let my Chinon 431 go for around $300 once my
Pioneer 600 gets here. Let me know if you are interested. True scsi, plug
and play on Amiga.
Al Koller
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From: JOHN KROPP Number: 2310
To: ED FEINS Date: 08/31/93 9:31p
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ed, I will take em at that price if in good shape and postpaid to me at that
figure. Let me know if agreeable. Thanks!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2311
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/01/93 9:39a
Subj: Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jim,
... four months later ... YES! My CD-ROM driver (Mitsumi) got
FOUR MONTHS to arrive here, in Brasilia. Do you believe ??? Four
months ???? It's incredible, but I thougth that it wouldn't take so
long, and the salesman told me it would take only three or four days :(
Well, anyway I have a CD-ROM driver now, and I've bought Night
Owl's 9 just to try it for the first time. As I have my CD-ROM driver
right on my hands, I'd like to get your LAST CD-ROM catalog, o.k. ? Do
you accept Mastercard ?? You wrote me you were dealing with them ...
That's it, I just want to get your last catalog, with new
CD-ROMs, and this time I will buy the CDs O.K. ? I just hope the CDs
doesn't take 3 or 4 months ... :)))
Thanks
Rodolfo Vaz
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From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 2312
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/31/93 9:45a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get
> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of with
> caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are amazed and
> impressed by the Panasonic....
Give me a break! A person buys a 200.00 cd rom and can't afford the 5.00 for an
extra caddy? When the software costs from 10-100 a disk, an extra 5.00 for the
added convience of a caddy is hardly prohibitive.
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From: JOHN HART Number: 2313
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 12:00a
Subj: Hi Speed Mitsumi FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I got a super deal on a brand new Mitusmi CD-ROM still in the box, never
used. I've already got one and love it, so I'm selling it for the first
$170. Comes with the 16-bit card, cables, software, everything you
need. It's a caddyless internal drive that runs Photo and Music CD's as
well as CD-ROMs. 350 ms access, 150k/sec transfer rate. (513)376-1125
or post repsonse in this ech
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* Origin: PW&M BBS (513)-376-9711) 1:110/470 (1:110/470.0)
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 2314
To: VINCENT CAPALBO Date: 09/01/93 10:08p
Subj: Bbs cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** VINCENT CAPALBO wrote this on 08-30─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Do all CDROMS constantly spin when a disk is inside. If so a BBS
─>would have it spinning 24 hours. I know Tandy makes one that doesn't
I have the Sound Blaster CD-ROM (Panasonic 150K per second, 390ms access
time) and it doesn't spin constantly. It will spin for about a minute
after it's last use, then it will stop until it needs to read from the
disc again. I don't know if double speed CDs stop, but they should.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
09/01/93 19:38
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From: RON YOUNG Number: 2315
To: ED FEINS Date: 09/02/93 8:13a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 29-Aug-93 15:25:00, Ed Feins wrote:
EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA
I will take these. Give me your address info and I will send payment for the
caddies.
Ron Young
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From: ROSS SLADE Number: 2316
To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/31/93 4:54p
Subj: OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
following up a message from JACK O'NEILL to ALASTAIR EDGINGTON:
AE> I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with SoundBlaster
AE> Pro set up and working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM
AE> working!!
JO> What you want is either CLIOS2CD.EXE, available from
JO> Creative Labs BBS, or CLICD2.ZIP, avaiable on the IBM
JO> support BBS. CLIOS2CD is a self-extracting archive that
JO> contains a device driver (SBPCD2.SYS) and instructions.
No,no...there's a new driver for OS/2, called SBCD2.* it has a new driver (OS/2
2.1 made changes to the way drivers work) just follow the docs. It should be on
your local board or get it from CL.
Ross 8-)
/^^^\
(O O)
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If Windows sucked it would be good for something.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2317
To: RAJIV JOSHI Date: 09/02/93 4:40p
Subj: Toshiba xm-3401ta Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rajiv!
On 08-30-93 Rajiv Joshi wrote to Rowan Evans...
RJ> do you know the difference between the toshiba 3301, 5500a, 3401b, and
RJ> the 3401ta?
Trick question?
Sorry, but no I don't!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2318
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/02/93 4:41p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Roger!
On 08-30-93 Roger Smith wrote to Rowan Evans...
RS> Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to
RS> protect a CDROM that can cost much more.
See my replies to Poe Lim and others earlier in this echo!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2319
To: CHRIS FRANCIS Date: 09/02/93 4:44p
Subj: SBPro - pc speaker on mb Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris!
On 08-30-93 Chris Francis wrote to Rowan Evans...
CF> Be VERY carefull when you hook this up! If one plug is in backwards
CF> this can damage or DESTROY your Sound Blaster and/or your motherboard!
CF> If you do decide to do this get the tech manual on your motherboard
CF> and check the pin assingments on the speaker jack.
CF> The assignment on the motherboard for the speaker is pin 1 and pin 4
CF> on the jack, however, which pin is +5 volts and which pin is the speaker
CF> pin can varry from board to board. You might be able to check this
CF> with a multimeter.
It's not something I'd consider as even a ratty $A10.00 set of speakers
attached out the back will provide better sound than the SB Pro Speaker
Out....
This must be why the SB16 ASP has deleted Speaker Out and swapped to
having this as Speaker In.....
One nice point with the PAS16 was that it would intercept the PC speaker
*WITHOUT* any additional wiring!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2320
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 8:26a
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi all,
I am running the 7th Guest on a CR-562-B and a Sound Blaster 16.
The game runs fine BUT the music is so loud I can barely hear the characters
talking in the game. Does anyone else have this problem ? Could it be
due to the fact that the game is using a Sound Blaster Pro OPL/3 driver
that is not entirely compatible with the SB16.
Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks,
Sean.
... Jurassic Frenzy - Steven Spielberg help me !
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From: BRIAN KING Number: 2321
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/30/93 1:56p
Subj: Laura Bow II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I saw your message to Henry Paul saying that you had Laura Bow II. I also have
this game but I am stuck on level two. I am in the museum. I have talked to
all the people and then they disappear. I have picked up the glass on the
table but other than that I can not do anything.
PLEASE HELP!!!
The game came with a sierra hint line number but when I ring them up there is
no clues left there.
Would be grateful for any help that you could give me.
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* Origin: Programmers WorkBench [Ph 077-213-592 24Hrs V32/PEP] (3:640/715)
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 2322
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/31/93 4:56p
Subj: Cica Windows Update Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA>>CICA Windows CD-ROM disk had been updated and now available from
I would have sent this netmail Ismail, but I want to actually check if
you recieved my previous netmail. Could you please respond either via
the echo or at fidonet 3:640/201
regards, Ian Bishop
* OLX 2.1 TD * When Crusha Talks - EVERYBODY Listens!!
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From: GIL GOLDFINCH Number: 2323
To: STEVE ROGERS Date: 08/29/93 7:57p
Subj: CABLES- DRIVE TO SOUNDCRD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've been trying to get an audio cable for several weeks without success so
appreciate your help. Media Vision have a SCSI driver/cable kit (Part No.
830-0007-01) for NEC Internal Drives and PAS 16, but the audio cable has a five
pin plug on both ends. The NEC CDR55 has a three pin audio socket.
The local distributor for the NEC CD are also having problems locating the
correct cable. NEC Australia are of no help. I would expect that NEC would
have supplied the CD player with all the necessary cables but this is not the
case.
Please let me know if you have a suitable cable and how to order (Visa card?).
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* Origin: "Lightning BBS, Perth WA, +61-9-344-7199 (4 lines)" (3:690/602)
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From: MICHAEL POWELL Number: 2324
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 8:42a
Subj: Cirrus Logic Video Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have recently changed my Tseng labs VGA card for a Cirrus Logic HiColor card.
With a bit of tweaking here & there I managed to get everything working except
for The 7th Guest. Whatever I do, eg loading Paradise VESA extensions etc. I
cannot get any video output from this game. The game still runs, all the sound
comes through, but no video.
Has anybody else had this problem. and if so what was your solution.
BTW it is definitely to do with the card because, when I put Tseng back in T7G
runs fine.
Thanks in anticipation.
MIKE
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From: DON PUGH Number: 2325
To: AUSTRALIANS Date: 08/29/93 8:40a
Subj: Affordable cdroms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The following disks are available from:
Don Pugh, CDROM SUPPORT BBS
17 Irvine St
Peppermint Grove, West Australia 6011
PH 09-384-9043 BBS Data 09-383-4925 (Fidonet 3:690/750)
Night Owl 9 $49.00 Seventh Guest $89.00
Super ClipART $19.00 PC-SIG Games $39.00
Super Games for Windows $19.00 Circa Windows $29.00
Simtel-20 1992 $19.00 GIGA Games $39.00
For Affordable CD-roms in Australia: Credit Cards Accepted
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* Origin: CD_ROM SUPPORT BBS,(3:690/750) Perth, 10Gb Files (3:690/750)
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From: DON PUGH Number: 2326
To: MAHMUT KURSUN Date: 08/29/93 9:59a
Subj: Pressing CDROM, what-to-do Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I thought your contribution was most useful and have saved it for my BBS. Its
the sort of message that should go on internet, and I expect will end up in a
book on making cdroms.
Good work.
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* Origin: CD_ROM SUPPORT BBS,(3:690/750) Perth, 10Gb Files (3:690/750)
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2327
To: RON WILKEY Date: 09/02/93 8:56a
Subj: ATZ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Regarding the original message from Ron Wilkey of 1:291/12
writing to Atz on <Aug 30 21:06> while confessing..Hello Ron,
In a message on <Aug 30 21:06>, you wrote:
RW> ?
RW> ATZ
RW> ATZ
What are trying to do ??? reset my Modem ??? <G>
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2328
To: CHRIS FRANCIS Date: 09/02/93 8:59a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* On Aug 30 23:27 Chris Francis quoth this to Kevin Plummer
KP>>JS> Has anyone got NO9 ?
KP>>JS>
KP>>JS> Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ?
KP>>JS>
CF> You didn't answer the question!!! I would like to know
CF> also. NO AD'S PLEASE!!
Yes, there is little duplication between the two disks
Laurie
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From: ROBERT HAWORTH Number: 2329
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/01/93 12:44p
Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Its called the Concurrent. Powersource is the importer. Ph (02) 744-5826
Sydney (03) 383-6509 Melbourne.
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From: POE LIM Number: 2330
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/03/93 12:43a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Aug 31 17:20 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> the average price for a single caddy for the casual user appears to
> be about $A15.00.
Most of them are around A$12 (well, those advertised via mags or SMH).
> Now, you and I haunt this echo and can grab a deal with a cheap
> CD-ROM caddy, etc, but a lot of the users I talk to place BBSes and
> modems in the voodoo/black magic category, and even telling them to
> "call so & so" doesn't have much impact....
It's their bad luck; even if you're a dealer, if you shop around you can get
stuff cheaper than if you just go to one supplier blindly. Now I'm not saying
that we get these products cheaply; we still have to spend time to sift through
the mass of data to get the info we need.
> Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case,
> open new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple, foolproof
> process... No hassles!
Well, we agree to disagree on caddies. :) I put everything into caddies, eject
one and slip another in. Extremely foolproof, and I don't handle the CDs at all
after loading the caddies directly from a shrink-wrapped case.
> Of course it was interesting the one time I accidently inserted a
> second ROM without checking that the drive was empty!
1.3Gb capacity? :)
> BTW, if you have an audio CD player, is it a caddy type or a tray
> type??
Haven't seen caddies for those yet, only for the compact CDs.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 2331
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 3:01a
Subj: Cd-Rom Interfaces Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>LR>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for
>LR>their card, while Adapt
>Again, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. A company can waste a lot of
>money chasing after all the latest fads, and it's the user that
>ultimately foots that bill.
Since OS/2 is selling better now than it ever has (300,000 copies
per month), that makes it rather large "fad."
There were two main reasons behind why device drivers have been so
slow to come out for OS/2: one was the high prices charged by IBM for
their device driver programming kit, and the other was the perception
by developers that OS/2 would never become popular.
Neither are true anymore (IBM lowered the price greatly, and OS/2 is
*already* popular) so expect to see this hole covered relatively
quickly.
___
X SLMR 2.1a X Klondike is a form of Patience. So is Windows under DV.
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 2332
To: ROY FUNG Date: 09/01/93 10:46a
Subj: RE: SBPRO CD ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a mail order catalog called Dammark and they carry it for 180
dollars. When I bought it with my computer (custom built), it was $130
and that's what they charge at Computer Parts Plus (San Diego). You
should look around in all the computer stores because it's probably one
of the most compatable and best sound card that's not GUS or anything. I
would rate it above a SBpro any day. Oh, Dammark's number to get a
catalog is: 1-800-729-9000 for orders, 1-800-788-7001 for customer
service, and 1-800-729-4744 for product info. The Sound galaxy part
number is B-4310-351132.
Later
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* Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0)
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From: KEN MATTHEWS Number: 2333
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/22/93 12:43a
Subj: CD ROM List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Doug what is your BBS Phone Number? While back I use to call and you had
a file that had over 500 CD's listed. Do you still have that file and
what is it called?
Thanks.. Ken
... Glad To Be Here..
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From: LAURENT WILKIN Number: 2334
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 10:04a
Subj: DUNE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
Is there anybody who knows the CD of Dune. (1 of course)
Because I would like to buy it but I don't know If it's realy good....
Thanks.
Viper
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2335
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/02/93 11:11p
Subj: Re: Corel Photo CD Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Does anybody have for sale the new COREL PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS CD-ROM ?
> It contains 100 royalty-free Hi-Quality images
> I just saw it advertised on page 10 in the Sept 93 issue of WINDOWS
> Magazine for $49.95 suggested list. If anyone has it, please advise
> asking price.
Hi Stewart,
Corel Photo CDs are not new. They were being published by a folk from Pacific,
WA for quite sometimes ago. Corel bought the disks from him and they are
selling now. He used to sell them for $70 and Corel reduced the price. :-) TTYL
-= IA =-
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2336
To: FRIEND Date: 09/02/93 11:15p
Subj: Aldus PM 5.0 CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dear friend,
I don't remember your name right now. However you were insisting that there is
an existing CD version of PM 5.0. Beta version of it had been published in 23
Aug. 1993 and regular version in CD format will be shipping at Sep. 15, 1993.
(if everything will be going as scheduled). Therefor there is no CD version of
it available forsale. The ad you have seen in Computer Shopper was a little
typo and many companies may do with a mistake. TTYL
Ismail Arslangiray
GroupWare
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2337
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/02/93 11:17p
Subj: Re: KQ5 & SQ4 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> have to switch to text only because I am getting music but NO speech
> whatsoever. Is there a bug in SQ4 or is there another problem ?
> Has anyone else been able to run SQ4 with full speech ?
Hi,
You need and updated driver. (I assume you are suing SB - 562 combo). TTYL
GroupWare
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2338
To: BRAD ORR Date: 09/02/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: CD Rom Drive Sound Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have a question about my CDROM drive. I have a Texel DM3401
> ( an internal double speed drive) and there is a headphone jack
> on the front of the drive that I have _never_ been able to get sound
> from using music cd's. What must I do to hear sound from this jack?
> (I have a SB16 as well, and music cd's will play through it.)
It should play thru there, plug your speakers there and test it. If it doesn't
work, consult to the place where you bought it from or Texel customer support.
TTYL
GroupWare
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2339
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/02/93 11:21p
Subj: NO BBS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> ***ADULT***
> ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
YES
> MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
NO
> VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
NO
> VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
YES
> SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
YES
> STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
YES
> STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
NO
> MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
NO
-= IA =-
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* Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116)
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From: PAUL SZUDZIK Number: 2340
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/02/93 6:31a
Subj: PHONE DIRECTORY CD'S FOR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB> Every listing I have checked is inaccurate in
DB> at least one area. My residential number is 4 years out of date, my
Thanks I was going to buy this this weekend at the Shelby, NC HamFest.
Was this the full blown 7 ( or 8 ) disk set, or was this the 3 Disk Set?
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2341
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/03/93 7:31a
Subj: Echo Changes Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
I think your ideas for both this and the "for sale" echo are right
on target, Bob. I support you and Tim agreeing to make this switch on
Oct. 1.
... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 2342
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 7:43p
Subj: NEW CD-ROMS! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
New and Hot at CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA, its the DR. CDROM series!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Music - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
Dr. Shareware - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
Dr. Games - Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports, Strategy, Puzzles, more!
Dr. Windows - 3400+ files of MS Windows 3.x programs and utilities!
...and they're BBS Ready!
In Canadian Dollars: $80 for all four, or $28 each (all applicable
taxes included) In U.S. Dollars - $57 for all four, or $19.95 each
** CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA ** 306-789-4654 Voice / 789-8690 Fax
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From: BARRY MISHKIND Number: 2343
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/03/93 1:58a
Subj: 1 of 2 - Deleted EchoList 309 Entries Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
* Original to All in moderator
* Forwarded Fri Sep 03 1993 01:58:15 by Barry Mishkind @ 1:300/11.3
On <Sep 02 93> Mike Fuchs (1:266/71) wrote:
MF> The following EchoList entries have not been updated in over seven
MF> months,and were listed with WARNINGS in last month's EchoList. Since they
MF> are assumed to be out of date, they have been deleted from the
database
MF> for the production of this month's EchoList.
MF> CDROM
MF> CD ROM Discussion and Information
MF> Moderators: Bob Hall, 1:147/23.0@fidonet
MF> Last changed: 29-Jan-93 by: Bob Hall, 1:147/23.0@fidonet
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From: BARRY MEAD Number: 2344
To: THOMAS FITZGERALD Date: 09/03/93 2:11a
Subj: Cd-rom output. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thomas Fitzgerald wrote
Hey guys, I am having trouble with something......
On mys SB card, I have 1 output and 2 inouts (mic, midi.)
On my CD-Rom, I have two outputs, headphones, and line out (L,R,)
Now, hoe can I configure all this to work on a set of little amp
speakers. I realize that the line out jacks are only minimal
voltage therefore can really be heard with 8ohm connections, so how
the hell do I get this to work with only one set of speakers without
having to buy the comuter type ammplifier.
You connect the output of your SB card to speakers. This is a 3-wire
stereo jack that will operate two speakers. If the sound is not loud
enough you can get amplified speakers from radio shack for $20-$30
depending on how fancy you want to get.
To interface the cd-rom to the SB card there is (on most cd-rom drives)
a 4-pin connector on the back edge of the cdrom that connects to a
similar 4-pin connector on the edge of the SB card. These pins are
small and spaced 1/10th inch from each other. Some CD-ROM's use
a 5-pin connector. Usually the cable comes with the CD-ROM drive
itself.
If you have no cable you can make one out of two pieces of
shielded cable. The outer two pins are ground and the inner two pins are
Left and Right channel. The 4-pin connectors you will have to scrounge
up from a local electonics shop that sells "molex" connectors. Hope
this helps. Barry
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 2345
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 7:38p
Subj: PhoneDisc and Maximus Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
anyone been able to put the two set Phone disk on line with Maximus?
If so could you send me the door files? I am using a six-pack CDRom and
CDMX2dor.
Regards
Langston
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2346
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/03/93 7:19a
Subj: Re: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BJ>hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a
> list
> BJ>about $3000.
> That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
> with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
> it.
Yes, you are exactly right. Infact I have the audio version on my stereo
system. TTYL
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2347
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/03/93 7:21a
Subj: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BO> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem
> like
> BO> there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
> BO>
> BO> Dr. CD
> I beg to differ with you there Boris. You would be suprised at the
> number of AppleCD 300 that are being sold, not to even count all the AV's
> that are hitting the market with CDs installed. There IS a substantial
> market there if you guys would just carry the disks and advertise...m2
You are right about AppleCD. While there are not too many titles like IBM,
however their number is increasing every other day or many of them are dual.
Our MAC CD-ROM sales went up 300% compare to last few months. TTYL
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* Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116)
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 2348
To: SAM JONES Date: 09/02/93 8:00a
Subj: Photo cd software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SJ>Thanks, Sam
Are you by any chance the Sam Jones that worked for IBM in Phila in the
early 70's?
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2349
To: JD BROWN Date: 09/02/93 10:08p
Subj: Re: CD ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM?
JB>
JB> OS/2
If he was being serious, you most certainly weren't :) OS/2 while the best
multitasker and with many a function caches the CDROMS but not that well.
In fact not many programs cache CD-ROMS well unless you are fortunate enough
to have a 1 Gigabyte PC and you use 660megs for a CD-ROM cache! Just that
most systems won't benefit from a CD-ROM cache.
Ken Harvey
Hypercached :)
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2350
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 10:21p
Subj: Text Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
Am looking for a TEXT ONLY Encyclopedia that is fairly current. Can anyone
recommend one from experience? Want to put it up as a door on a BBS so I
don't want pictures. I have heard of them in the past but now with
multi-media the "in" thing they are somewhat of a dinosaur. Any
suggestions?
Ken Harvey
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Number: 2351
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 11:13p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello out there! Can anybody please tell me how to write a disk cache for
my CD-ROM drive using the version of Smartdrv that comes with DOS 6?
Microsoft may have thought that they were saving paper when they come out
with 'on-line help', but it don't help me any! What I tried to do was
this:
C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE I:+ 2048 2048
But it didn't work. I even tried to do it without the '+', but it still
won't go. I know, a lot of people will tell me to use another cache
program, but I bought DOS 6 for all the new features, and can't stand any
of them, so I gotta get my money back out of it somehow! By the way, I: is
the drive letter for my CD-ROM. Thanks in advance! Chow!
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2352
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/03/93 9:13p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How good are the graphics on it?
I was lokking for very good graphics like the ones that from a few feet away
look like pictures.
Thanks
sI'm talking about the matsumi.
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From: WILLIAM HERBERT Number: 2353
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Tue 31-Aug-1993 8:35p, Michael Kessler wrote:
MK> What type of CD ROM would be good for a Amiga 2000. The CD ROM should be
MK> able to play photo CD's and of course be compatable with CD TV disks as
MK> well as PC CD's (Mods,gifs ect). Price should resonable if possible
c2 Any SCSI compitble CD romm unit will do, What your asking though inst realy
up to the cd romm itself but the driver software. in wich case you can go out &
buy the cheapest cd romm drive & have it do everything you listed & more with
the correct Driver Software. I recomend XETEC's Software. It will show Kodacks
Photo Cd'z , Will read the ISO standard of any platfor out there... You caN
REACH XETEC support at 800 445 0611
seeya! 8)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2354
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/02/93 10:44a
Subj: MITSUMI LOCK-UP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>These drives didn't have the audio cable. Did you know that the drivers don't
>tie up the DMA channel selected without the audio cables installed? I guess
it
>only uses the DMA channel for playing audio CD's ? ? ?
Not true - it depends on WHICH DRIVER you set up.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2355
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 09/02/93 10:50a
Subj: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> >> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month"
> >> FF> clubs start and everybody will get a nice new CD in the mailbox each
> >> FF> month.
> >> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago?
> BF> CBS CD Club has been around appx. 10 years, not sure about the BMG
>DisK, floppy of the month clubs. I was attempting to point out that this is a
>fairly new technology, not well intrenched in the average home. While we're
>getting closer, I wouldn't expect a successful mass-market disc of the month
>club for about 6-18 more months. Nothing big for probably 2 years.
Someone has already started a CD-ROM of the month club - I saw their literature
at the One BBS Con.
>While the readers of this echo may almost all have cdrom drives, by no means
do
>most computers.
True - but the proportion is growing fairly quickly. I don't expect these folks
to hit the sales level of a CBS or BMG or even a Musical Heritage club, but....
* SLMR 2.1a * Speed Kills - Use Windoze
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2356
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 09/02/93 1:36p
Subj: NIX PIX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Where can I obtain Nix Pix CD-ROM's?
Ask Telecentral here locally about them.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2357
To: CHARLES HART Date: 09/02/93 1:37p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>But, that's you total and only recourse - the moderator "owns" the Echo and
>does exactly what he want when he wants - and if he fails to please the bulk
of
>the members they will stop comming[[[[[[[.[D [Dcoming, so I suspect the good
>moderator of this Echo is responding to member comments.
Actually, I could tell you why Bob has banned "Adult" CDROMs from the echo -
hint, check out his location then compare to Tony Davis's location....
* SLMR 2.1a * Are you using Windows or is that just a SLOW XT?
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From: DAVID HARRISON Number: 2358
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/03/93 8:17p
Subj: Re: Dealers Wanted !!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP> ==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP>
KP> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
KP>
KP> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
KP> Darrel Rivenbark
KP>
KP> Cheapest Prices around !!!!
KP>
KP> 1-800-865-5354
KP> =================================================================
Hey, I will be more then happy to be a support bbs if you need one...
(I will even test the products for you hahahaha) This is a joke
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 2359
To: PAUL SZUDZIK Date: 09/04/93 12:04a
Subj: PHONE DIRECTORY CD'S FOR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Paul!
02 Sep 93, Paul Szudzik writes to Don Bosman:
PS> Thanks I was going to buy this this weekend at the Shelby, NC HamFest.
PS> Was this the full blown 7 ( or 8 ) disk set, or was this the 3 Disk Set?
I have both (am trying to put one on line HOW?)- the seven disk set is about
three years out of date BUT has exellent indexes. The 2/3 disk set is much more
current but can only do Name searches quickly (streets, for example, take
forever.)
Also I notice that the lists are NOT the same! In one (the 6/7) my name is as
listed in the phone book and my wife's number is also lsited as in the book, in
the 2/3 disk set only my name appears and then as shown on my bill.
Interesting, eh?
Regards
Langston
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 2360
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 8:08p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS
$4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS Number: 2361
To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 09/02/93 11:16p
Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am
-> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they
-> show up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly?
-> I hope this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six
-> cd's, put them on the system only to find out that I have to manually
-> change a cd when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can
-> help in using the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!!
It is automated if you can get their software to run. If you are running
Novell and want to run it on the Server, the software will cost you as
much as the drive. However, it will work on a workstation.
If there software will not work for you, there is a solution in COREL
SCSI if you need to go that route.
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2362
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/02/93 4:14p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Jim Lambert to All <=-
JL> I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog. We have many new
JL> products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others. If you
JL> would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download
JL> catalog.zip. It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions.
Hi Jim,
as I wrote other day, my CDROM arrived just three days ago, and
as I was CRAZY to test it, I bought the NIGHT OWL 9 CDrom. And I would
like you to send me the new catalog, if it is possible. I have the
catalog you sent to me three months ago, and I'm sure it is out of date,
right ? Please, send the Credit Card form to pay the CDs with
International Credit Card, O.K. ?
My address (maybe you don't have it anymore):
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 Lote 01 apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
72115-075
Thanks
Rodolfo Vaz
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2363
To: FABRICE GROVER Date: 09/02/93 4:16p
Subj: Re: GOOD CD-ROM??? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FG> Hey out there. I'm looking for a cd-rom for my future 486DX2-66 Mhz.
FG> expensive etc... If anyone has any opinions on which cd-rom is a good
FG> buy with a nice price/performance ratio, I'd love to here from you.
Hi Fab,
I own a 486DX-50MHZ and a CDROM that I like :
MITSUMI LU0005, 150Kbps, 350ms average access time, I paid
US$195,00 for it in Miami.
Bye
Rodolfo Vaz
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2364
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/02/93 4:23p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS: A SAMPLING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike,
MS> 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00
MS> Premium Windows........27.00
..... Diet quote !
I'd like to have a catalog, is it possible ?
Here is my address :
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 Lote 01 Apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
72115-075
MS> (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER *
I'm gonna pay with MC, O.K. ?
MS> SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50
And what's the price to send to Brazil ???
bye
Rodolfo Vaz
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2365
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 4:27p
Subj: Re: NEW CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO> 4 discs w/over 26,000 files 3 of which are completely DOS based files
BO> Price - $55.00
Hi Boris Osada;sldkjfdciw (what a name :))
Could you send a catalog to me ? Do you deal with MC ?
My address:
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 lote 01 apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
72115-075
Thanks,
Rodolfo Vaz
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil!
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From: GUILHERME MOURA Number: 2366
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 2:48p
Subj: CD with CAD programs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anybody knows any Cd with only CAD programs ??
Programs for AutoCAd, Lisp...
I see any Cd with areas for CAD... but it's poor...
Gui.
... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 30 days.
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From: STEVE DAGGETT Number: 2367
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 10:09a
Subj: Sound Blaster wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Wanted - sound Blaster or SB Pro. Thanks!
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2368
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 1:08p
Subj: ProPhone 93 is inaccurat Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>If you're paying $100. for ProPhone 93, then you'd better look for
BO>another dealer as we sell the same copy for only $25.
I bought the 7 disk set as I hadn't discovered this echo , or the single
disk business edition. If you are going to continue to sell this
program, I would respectfully suggest you look up a dozen or so
companies you are familiar with and check out the listings. I was not
happy with all the inaccuracies I found. I have to date, not found one
listing that was completely accurate. Even the listing for the
publishing company does not have all the data that is advertised as
being on the disk.
BO>Here again, if your paying $900. then I suggest you look elsewhere as we
BO>sell the most up to date copies for only $89.
Do you have the Business Marketplace CD at less than several hundred $$ ?
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2369
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/29/93 1:53p
Subj: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
But look, some people don't have the money to buy all of those things, when
you could buy DOS 6, and get satisfactory results, instead of spending over
100's.
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2370
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 08/30/93 2:26p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
what the hell is this Night owl
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From: BETH CORRIGAN Number: 2371
To: ADRIAN VERGOT Date: 08/31/93 10:54a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hi Adrian
thanxs for the reply! would they be able to make the cd if i sen negatives
in?
Beth
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2372
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/31/93 12:18p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Actually Henry, I just got my Mitsumi CD-ROM drive maybe a month ago and I only
have like 3 games for it, King's Quest 5, Battle Chess(the data file is screwed
so it don't work nomore), and 7TH Guest(A real nice games), so I don't really
have any games to sell or trade, by the way what CD-ROM games do you have, no
company in perticular? TTYL
Ashwin
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2373
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 09/02/93 9:57p
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I gotta 386DX-40 /w a Paradise an i got 1%, i think the game has a bug in in
it...
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 2374
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 2:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2375
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/03/93 4:12p
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Onegaishimasu -- Japanese for "please look favorably on my request..
-> And you thought this was computers only, for shame...
->
-> MA> I got the Texel drive and the PAStudio16 ...
->
-> But then I have another friend ordering a Gateway and they have been
-> promising "this week" for 5 weeks, and he is FED UP worse than I at t
I have the Texel drive and the PAStudio16 on a Gateway 200 486V33.
As I said, I LOVE it!
-> My Q is, why won't the MSCDEX.EXE and TSLCDR.SYS shipping with the
->work as is? What more is needed, and what exactly is in this PAS
The MSCDEX.EXE will work, but use the one with DOS 6.0. It has a couple
of bug fixes that the one with Windows and DOS 5.0 have. The TSLCDR.SYS
is a generic Trantor driver. The driver works with Trantor SCSI
controllers. Each sound card design is a little different due to
copyright and marketing reasons. A sound board company may start with a
Trantor controller but interfacing it to a specific boards chips creates
the need for the "special" Trantor driver.
-> Short and simple, what comes with the upgrade kit and is it *necessar
-> for a single cdrom off PAStudio card given access to 3rd party SCSI a
-> sound cables? What critical driver beyond the PAStudio MSCDEX and TSL
-> is necessary? The straight skinny from a PAStudio and Texel owner wit
-> working system is needed. QEMM or EMM excludes as well.
With the upgrade kit I got drivers, a special bracket for the back of
the case that had a cable pass-thru, SCSI and sound cables, and docs.
Those are the only drivers that are needed. I suspect that Media Vision
has the drives on its BBS. (510-770-0968 for 2400 and 510-770-0527 for
9600. Both 8N1.)
-> Or, is this just a software memory range exclusion conflict with the
-> 0388H base factory address range? Conflict? Procedure for chasing dow
Hmmm. I don't know about excludes. I did have a slight problem with
Windows. I had to set the irq=10 in system.ini. But I had VERY few
problems setting it up. Most problems were mine from not reading the
docs with the kit. The kit docs are from Media Vision.
To answer a question above, YES, you can use a 3rd party SCSI
controller. You probably need a specific driver to run it though. It
may even run faster from things I've read in the echo.
I hope I got all of your questions. If you follow the instructions
EXACTLY in the kit docs you should have no trouble. Sorry about the
delays and problems of overseas ordering.
If I can do more to help you let me know. Oh, I was just looking at the
kit docs. ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION: Are you installing internal or
external? My kit was for external. That is why I got the bracket and
RCA mini jack cables. The software for the PASpectrum is the same for
the Studio.
BTW, if you have a green dot with a K in it, you are Kodak multi-session
photo CD capable. If the driver is 3.02 you have it all! The driver
(and other software upgrades) is free from MV.
Media Vision tech support tele # 1-800-638-2807 or 1-510-770-8600 or FAX
1-510-770-8648. Let me know if I can help more.
Mike
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2376
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/03/93 4:18p
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
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-> up a "No device recognized" error on bootup. Chapter and verse, Insta
You are using the generic driver. Use the PAS Trantor driver as I said
in the previous message. That will solve that problem.
If you don't get it solved soon let me know and I will call MV and see
if I can give you a copy of my driver legally.
Mike
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2377
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/04/93 2:54a
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
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>> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles? They dn't have
>> to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
>>
>> BO> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before,
>> doesn't seem like BO> there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
>> BO>
>> BO> Dr. CD
>>
>> I beg to differ with you there Boris. You would be suprised
>> at the number of AppleCD 300 that are being sold, not to even
>> count all the AV's that are hitting the market with CDs
>> installed. There IS a substantial market there if you guys
>> would just carry the disks and advertise...m2 --- MacWoof 1.5.3
I never said there wasn't a lot of MAC user's, all I stated is that out of
the hundreds of calls we get each month, very few every ask for MAC titles.
It doesn't make much sense in buying several hundred copies of a product
that you may or may not sell. Even with that in mind, the prices are still
to high in comparision to IBM cd's.
If these authors would take the same out look as most of the IBM authors
do about pricing, it would be of greater interest to carry the products.
Although I will admit, we do carry commercial titles in MAC, but very few
shareware.
Hope this helps you better understand or postion, but now that we're in
our new warehouse, this may change.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2378
To: SHAWN MAZZUTO Date: 09/04/93 2:54a
Subj: Re: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
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>> Hello All!
>> Out of curiosity, would I need to buy another NEC CDR-84
>> CD-ROM for the BBS, or can I get another NEC CD-ROM, but not
>> as quick. This is so that I can use the same drivers in my
>> config.
As a general rule, most drivers are downward compatiable Shawn,
unless you get a real old NEC.
If you were to purchase a NEC 83 or 73, you could simply plug and
play these units without any changes.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2379
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 2:54a
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2380
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 2:54a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
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Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 2381
To: JON SHEARIN Date: 09/03/93 9:23p
Subj: Help with mscdex Refer: NONE
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On 08-28-93 15:27 Jon Shearin said something about Help with mscdex, to which
I reply:
I got this from an FTP site:
Article 8646 (26 more) in alt.cd-rom:
From: blh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Bill Hassell)
Subject: Re: cdrom parameters
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 21:57:46 GMT
Here's a list of MSCDEX parameters:
/D:<entryname> This parameter 'hooks' the MSCDEX utility
with the same name given to the CDROM driver using the
same parameter. For instance:
CONFIG.SYS
device=c:\phillips.sys /d:mscd000 ...other stuff...
AUTOEXEC.BAT
mscdex.exe /d:mscd000 ...other stuff...
/L:<drive letter> This parameter tells MSCDEX which drive
letter code to use in referencing the CDROM drive. If
/L is not used, MSCDEX will use the next available letter
not currently assigned.
/M:<###> This number specifies the number of 2K bytes buffers
to allocate for increasing performance of the CDROM drive.
For standalone PC's, 8 is the default (16K bytes) while
12 buffers (24K bytes) is used for network server PC's.
This number takes memory directly from 640K unless
expanded (not extended) memory is available and the /E
parameter is specified.
/E Tells MSCDEX to place all the buffers in expanded (not
extended) memory). Used to free up memory below 640K.
/S Tells MSCDEX to patch DOS to allow sharing of CDROM drives
on MS-NET based network servers. This may not be required
or may be different depending on the network software used.
/V Provides details on memory usage, buffers used, resident
data and code and if expanded memory was used. Always
interesting to include...it makes bootup fun.
The /M parameter is used to increase the performance of the CDROM drive by
pre-reading trailing data in anticipation of future needs. It also reduces
the number of DOS read requests, but there is a point of diminishing returns
which depends mostly on the types searches performed by the software. When
the needed data is clustered or sequential in nature, extra buffers help a
lot.
... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: DOUGLAS NEUMAN Number: 2382
To: JOHN RICKERSON Date: 09/02/93 9:36a
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Hello John!
In a message to Douglas Neuman <08/28/93> John Rickerson wrote:
JR> > I have a NEC CDR-72 available for a small price of $130US that comes
JR> > with its own controller, but it is a true scsi drive so it can be
JR> > connected to a scsi controller. This is an external drive with access
JR> > speed of 380 ms and transfer speed of upto 150K but it does not have
JR> > internal circuitry to be MPC compatible. But for BBS use it would be
JR> > excellent drive. I will include software drivers that you will need f
JR> > the NEC controller board that is being included. It also comes with 5
JR> > caddys. Call me at (914)351-3325 in the evening (after 6EDT) or at
JR> > (201)818-3547 during the day.
JR> Can these drives be daisy chained? And if so how many?
JR> Thanks
JR> John
This drive, I only have one, can be daisy chained with any other SCSI
device. SCSI devices usually can be chained up to 7 devices off of one
controller. Please call and we will tlak about it.
Thanks, Doug.
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From: SYSADMIN'S NIGHTMARE Number: 2383
To: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Date: 09/03/93 2:50p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Juan-pedro Minon to All,all,all,aaaalllllll <=-
JM> I am looking for a CD-ROM writer (Kodak PCD Writer 200 or
JM> Philips CDD 521/10).
JM> Please reply to me with price, capatibilites, software and
JM> specifications.
$6,000 for Philips CDD 521 bundled with CD-GEN and interface.
Philips CDD 521 can write virtually any required CD format.
CD-GEN will support Orange, Red, and Yellow Book specs. It can be
run in an interactive or batch mode. The drive, BTW, writes in double-
speed.
... Veni, vidi, vendi -- I came, I saw, I sold.
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From: SYSADMIN'S NIGHTMARE Number: 2384
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/03/93 2:54p
Subj: Re: Multi CD Rom Drives Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Gordon Peterson to Michael Evans <=-
ME>Is there a multiple cd rom drive available for a BBS apart from the Pioneer
ME>disk unit ?
GP> There are several others available, but not at competitive prices for
GP> typical sysops. I've seen a German unit with two banks of 50 CDs (50
GP> on each side), and another unit with a rotating carousel, I think it
GP> holds several hundred (300?) CD-ROMs. But you'll faint when you see
GP> the pricing. :-((
... And the pricing is?
While you're at it, tell us the manufacturer, model #, and vendor, please.
Some of us might find it very cost effective for mass archival storage.
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2385
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/03/93 7:58a
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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On 08-31-93, David Winger elucidated to Sunny Leung:
DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to produce your own
one-off cdrom disks
DW> SL> Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it possible to add
DW> SL> more files to the CD?
DW>NO!
WRONG AGAIN! Using multisession writing and reading drives, you CAN
add more and read it.
DW> SL> What's the difference between a CD and a optical disk (and
DW> SL> what's a WORM drive)?
DW>
DW>A CD uses a laser beam to read the information of the disk, an
DW>optical disk is the same as a floppy disk except that it uses a
DW>laser to keep the head aligned with the disk, because the tracks
DW>on the disk are so fine.
Guess what? WRONG AGAIN! You are describing floptical technology,
magneto optical disks do not work that way, neither do cdroms.
David, I suggest you borrow a book or two from your library and
learn more about the technology before trying to answer questions,
as you might mislead people.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2386
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/03/93 7:58a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
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On 08-31-93, Rowan Evans elucidated to Poe Lim:
RE> Whilst I have seen ads for caddies for $A5.00, and some companies
RE> offering "free" caddies if you buy x number of CD-ROMs at a time,
RE> the average price for a single caddy for the casual user appears
RE> to be about $A15.00.
RE>
RE> Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case, open
RE> new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple, foolproof
RE> process... No hassles!
RE> And if, as I said before, you were a casual user with an average cadd
RE> price of $A15.00, this makes it rather expensive....
Thought I'd step in here since my name was already "in the ring"
(thanks Poe). Rowan, it depends hugely on whether you can stand the
concept of your young offspring "playing" with your precious cdroms
while you are at work! I keep the most popular 15 disks in caddies,
and the rest inside jewel cases. My young daughter can use any of the
15 without danger. I reckon its worth it. Before I found a really good
supplier, I used to buy my caddies mail-order from Walnut Creek and
others, and I have never paid more that US$5.50 for a caddy.
But it's no big deal whether people prefer caddies or not...
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2387
To: RONALD LEON Date: 09/03/93 4:39p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
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RL> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist
RL>Takeover!
(Sorry Bob for being off-topic)
Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
Do you have elections in your country?
Do you know that people living in other countries have NO interest
in your domestic politics?
Do you know that many people reckon ALL politics is s**t?
Do you know that this is the CDROM echo?
If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your taglines
Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell you
about OUR politics:)
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From: MARK HAVAS Number: 2388
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 8:34a
Subj: MPC compliant CD-ROM controller Refer: NONE
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I have one MPC/Sound Blaster Pro card with a CD-ROM. I was wondering if anyone
has or knows where (In Sydney, Australia preferrably) I can get a sound blaster
pro card and the MPC CD-ROM controller cardso I can use thge CD-ROM in another
machine.
... This a public `ool. There's no P in it. Please keep it that way!
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From: MARK HAVAS Number: 2389
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 09/01/93 9:20a
Subj: Re: Aus Creative Labs Bbs Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Sunny Leung to All <=-
SL> Hi everybody,
SL>
SL> Is there a Creative Labs BBS in Australia. If so, what's the number?
SL>
SL> Regards, Sunny.
SL>
SL> ... I can't steer without my beer.
SL> *** Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
SL> ! Origin: (3:712/401)
SL>
SL> -!- TriDog 6.0
SL> ! Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise!
SL> [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912)
There is a Creative Labs BBS in Sydney. The number is (02) 906-8392 and the
settings are:- 8 Data Bits
No Parity
1 Stop Bit
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2390
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 12:09p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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RE> MA> The PAStudio16 is NOT SCSI-1, it IS SCSI-2. The Psectrun is SCSI-1.
RE>
RE> Still has the same cruddy 680 or 690 Kbps max transfer rate though!
Its quite acceptable for a CD-ROM drive.
RE> Oops! I should have put $A in front of the $ 1,300.00! $US725.00
RE> / .6700
RE> (or so) exchange rate means that is over $A1,000.00 (without customs
RE> duty, shipping & sales tax!)....
I can get the texel brand new for $680, and the Teac (same drive,
better specs - like 35k/sec faster, motorised caddy eject, not the
scummy panasonic tandy type draw) for $665. Check it out!
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2391
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 12:37p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
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RE> What about if we used fur lined handcuffs?? <g>
RE>
RE> Seriously, the CR562B I purchased came with an 8-bit paddle card... Worked
RE> fine, but I wanted to save the slot, so I connected to the SB16 ASP....
RE>
RE> Interesting point, the CR562B has, on all the benchmarking I've done, an
RE> affinity for the SB cards in that it *SPEEDS UP* when attached to one...
RE>
RE> Maybe its the 16bit connector of the SB card, I don't know (and I can't
RE> find a 16 bit paddle card!)....
Heh, it the card has the extra connectors like a 16-bit card, but the
cd-interface is only 8-bit im sorry to tell you.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2392
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 09/02/93 12:17p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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DD> how many bit is the matsumi?
DD>
32
-Robert
:-)
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2393
To: LOONG CHUNG Date: 09/04/93 12:33a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
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Hi Loong!
On 08-31-93 Loong Chung wrote to Rowan Evans...
LC> What is JEDIC connector for external DAT output?
Its a Japanese standard connector for direct CD to DAT serial output.
Its supposed to enable DAT copies of CDs (audio) just as good as the
CD without all the cr*p that is supposed to occur (master -> single DAT
copy) with normal audio type recording. This is what I've been told, but
I cannot confirm or deny the story (anyone want to lend me a DAT drive??)
<g>
LC> And does it have any problem running animation of something like
LC> that? e.g. pauses, jerky picture etc.
Using the Creative Labs Version 4.10.16 beta SBCD.SYS driver, the
jerkiness and pauses in games like T7G are minimal....
LC> Can it be plug into a SB Pro v1. And does a 8bit interface card have
LC> any difference to a 16bit interface card for connecting to the CDROM.
LC> Is it faster?
Mate of mine has a CR562B connected to an original SB Pro. He has
experienced no problems with the drive/card combo....
Interesting point, the CR562B/CR563 returns better throughput figuers when
attached to an SB CD-ROM connector than when attached to the supplied 8-bit
paddle card. It could be due to different electronics, etc on the SB, but
could also be due to the 16-bit connector on the SB Pro/16/16 ASP....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2394
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/04/93 12:49a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Doug!
On 08-31-93 Doug Carpenter wrote to Rowan Evans...
DC> RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for
DC> RE> you to get caddies than it is for the average user.... Most
DC> RE> users I know of with caddy type drives can only afford
DC> RE> one caddy... and they are amazed and
DC> RE> impressed by the Panasonic....
DC>
DC> Not necessarily. Most places charge dealers almost the
DC> same cost as you can get them for everyday at $4.95 each
DC> unless you buy a couple hundred of them....
Whilst this may be true in the US, in my experience, walking in off the
street into an Australian computer shop nearly always guarantees a price
of $A15.00. I have seen it as high as $A20.00, and as low as $A5.00.....
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2395
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 09/04/93 1:07a
Subj: CD authoring Refer: NONE
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Hi Sunny!
On 09-02-93 Sunny Leung wrote to All...
SL> Does anyone here in Australia make CD's for business organisations?
SL>
SL> By this I mean: a firm has a large database it wants to distribute to
SL> its subsidiaries. CD-ROM would be an excellent way to achieve this.
SL> The firm has the data to be transferred to CD.
SL>
SL> Would anyone in Australia be willing to supply a price on such a
SL> service? Are there any other requirements (e.g. firm's data to be
SL> stored on tape)?
Ring Disctronics in either Sydney or Melbourne.
They'll fax you a copy of their requirements and costs.... From memory
they'll accept various tape formats for the data to be cut as a ROM.
Costs are around $A1,800.00 for the glass master and then $1.85 or so
per CD-ROM in lots of 1,000 (they'll do smaller lots at higher prices!)
This works out to around $A20.00 per CD-ROM for 1,000 CD-ROMs.
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2396
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/04/93 1:13a
Subj: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Sean!
On 09-01-93 Sean Tudor wrote to All...
ST> I have a Panasonic CR-562-B drive which came with two drivers -
ST> SBCD.SYS and CDMKE41.SYS.
ST> Is there any difference between the drivers?
SBCD.SYS uses /p:xxx for the SoundBlaster port address. CDMKE41.SYS uses
/sbp:xxx if your CR562B is connected to an SB Pro/16/16 ASP or /p:xxx if
it is connected to the 8-bit paddle card. The /sbp:xxx is courtesy of a
US contact who advised me a few days ago... I only have CDMKE.SYS
4.00.14 beta (/sbp:xxx is present here too!) so I cannot confirm this
at this stage.....
ST> At the moment I am using the SBCD.SYS driver with no problems.
What version of SBCD.SYS? There is a version 4.11 driver around (off
Compuserve) that hangs on a mate's machine and two that I've tried it
on.......
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2397
To: SCOTT HOLMES Date: 09/03/93 7:28a
Subj: Re: Panasonic 563 & sb16 asp Refer: NONE
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-=> and Scott Holmes was heard mumbling to All <=-
Hi Scott,
SH> It is nice to see so many other people that have the Sound Blaster
SH> 16 ASP too. I have been quite pleased with the output, but have had a
... text noted but deleted ...
SH> had sound trouble. Or any game or utility with the SB16 for that
SH> matter.
Just for your info I have a SB16 and CR-562-B - the speech from Space
Quest 4 doesn't work and the speech in The 7th Guest can barely be heard.
I have been told that I need updated drivers for SQ4 but I don't know
what the problem is with The 7th Guest.
Cya,
Sean.
... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ...
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 2398
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 5:07p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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-=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Poe Lim about CADDY-O-RAMA<=-
RE> @MSGID: 3:711/413.0 2c8414e0
RE> Hi Poe!
RE>
RE> On 08-29-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> On Aug 23 20:44 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of
PL> > with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are
PL> > amazed and impressed by the Panasonic....
PL>
PL> The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than
PL> what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo,
PL> from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :).
RE>
RE> Whilst I have seen ads for caddies for $A5.00, and some companies
RE> offering "free" caddies if you buy x number of CD-ROMs at a time, the
RE> average price for a single caddy for the casual user appears to be
RE> about $A15.00.
RE> Now, you and I haunt this echo and can grab a deal with a cheap
RE> CD-ROM caddy, etc, but a lot of the users I talk to place BBSes and
RE> modems in the voodoo/black magic category, and even telling them to
RE> "call so & so" doesn't have much impact....
So let us in on this secret. Where can I get caddies for A$5? I really wouldn't
mind knowing. Netmail me on 3:620/250. Thanks.
Tom.
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 2399
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 10:42p
Subj: ATI + 7th Refer: NONE
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RE> ML> And 86%.... I thought it would have to be 100% being such a great
RE> ML> card... Do you run the vesa drivers that came on the CDROM?
RE> Well, I'd have expected it too.. I just did a standard install...
RE> The ATI GUPro I have is the ISA version - *6% is still plenty fast enough
RE> for all the graphics in T7G!
Well even tho it gives percentage scores, it wouldn't really change
much, would it? Just the choppyness of the screen maybe?
RE> ML> Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
RE> Yep! The local bus SVGA on another machine I have rated 100%!
Since you've got both cards, IS there any difference between one that
rates 86% and 100%?
Is it the smoothness of the screen movement?
Regards.
BTW: If I get my hands on an EISA version, I wonder if the scores will
be the same.
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 2400
To: JON SHEARIN Date: 09/02/93 10:46p
Subj: 7th Guest W/ 100% Video Refer: NONE
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JS> > I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA...
JS> > and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86%
JS> > optimal on the video.
JS> .
JS> .
JS> .
JS> > Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
JS>Marcus,
JS> I am currently running a 486DX/33MHz VLB machine
JS>with a Cirrus Logic VLB Video Card (uses the CL-GD5426
JS>chip). This combination gives 100% on 7th Guest.
It seems that the only people getting 100 are VLB.... unfortunately I've
only got EISA.I wonder if there are any on ISA/EISA getting 100...I
would have thought the ATI would have been the card to do it.
Now that I think of it, I guess those DOS scores on PC
Mag's video test might mean something now? I mean those GUI accelerators
with poor dos scores would be poor for 7th Guest, right?
JS> BTW, the 86% with the ATI sounds awfull. I got 74% using
a Trident JS>8900CL ISA card on a 486SX/25.
Boy, you make it sound pretty terrible... I really can't think what
these percentage scores would reflect, is it the smoothness of the
screen scrolls?
Regards.
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From: DON PUGH Number: 2401
To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 09/01/93 7:12a
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
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Hello Devin,
DW> I've been considering this drive. I have a
DW> concern though. I'm a quadriplegic and can't move
DW> my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so I
DW> don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about
DW> the doors. Needing to use both hands to insert
DW> ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door open
DW> while I do it. How are the doors set up?
I'm a C5/6 Quad myself. Its easy enough to push a caddy into a drive with 1
hand. No worries.
Best Regards Don
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From: BRAD BOUNDY Number: 2402
To: WAYNE MAJORS Date: 09/02/93 8:31a
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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WM> Yep.. but even in a democracy, the other person's freedom stops
WM> at the end of my nose.... It doesn't include the right to punch my
WM> nose or to walk your dog on my carpet.. nor to sell porn on my BBS
WM> through this echo...
WM>
WM> It's great to live in a country where we can stand up and
WM> say "no" to those who would empty their toilets on our
WM> dining tables and call it their freedom.. and it's great
WM> to have an echo for CD ROM that has a moderator with the
WM> grit to say "no".
WM>
WM> Thanks Bob!
I agree totally! You've got MY support!
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 2403
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 09/01/93 12:45p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Eric Hsiao to Andre Queree <=-
EH> Who cares if it isn't compatible with the SB16. The SB16 came out
EH> after the PAS-16 and the PAS-16 has the upperhand for 16-bit sound.
EH> There aren't any games that support the SB16 but not the PAS-16. It's
EH> not a limiting factor at all. The PAS-16 is still a great card.
I didn't mention the SB16 - I said it wasn't compatible with the SB Pro.
There IS a fair bit of software which supports the SB Pro, and an PAS-16 user
who boasts about how great his card is is still only going to get low quality
mono sound out of these games.
Catch ya' later!
Andre
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 2404
To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 09/01/93 12:50p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Luis Carvajal to All <=-
LC> Does anyone know what exactly should I need in order to see
LC> pictures from a CD?
LC> This is what I own:
LC> - A Soundblaster CD-ROM
LC> - Corel Draw 3.0 (I think this is also useful..)
Yes, this will let you view Photo-CD. It does work, don't worry about what
other people tell you. You should note that Corel will only let you view the
pictures, you can't do many of the fancy things some dedicated Photo-CD
software will let you do (like edit the pictures). Also note that the
Creative Labs CD-ROM (if it one of the older ones) is not multisession, which
means you will need to have all you pictures put onto CD in one go. Although
you can go back and add photos to a CD a a later stage, your CD-ROM drive will
not let you view these additions.
However, your setup WILL work - I have an identical setup and I've tried it!
Catch ya' later!
Andre
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2405
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 09/02/93 8:15p
Subj: Cd-rom Liquidation! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PD>What is the Kodak Photo CD you have listed. I might be interested in this.
It is software to allow you to view and edit Photo CD's from Kodak with a
compatible CD-ROM drive and VGA monitor. Plenty in stock if you're
interested.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2406
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 09/02/93 8:15p
Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK: $59 Refer: NONE
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PD>Is this the upgraded version of the Shareware Bonanza and Shareware
PD>Extravaganza package?
No. Totally different company. Much more up to date than either of
those two. New price too: $54.00
Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2407
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/02/93 8:15p
Subj: Mac CD Info Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM>This is a Macintosh resource catalog. EduCorp is another CD resource for Mac
MM>users (800) 843-9497. Tiger Software offers MAC CD as does Computer
MM>Town..there's more. You migh want to consider carrying MAC CD's..there's
MM>definitely a Market
Thanks for your input and your phone call Michael. We are slowly adding
more Mac titles to our array as demand increases. You should see an
updated listing soon of just Mac titles.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2408
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 8:15p
Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 | | Price: $37 |
This outstanding new CD is the ABSOLUTE NEWEST and MOST
UP-TO-DATE shareware CD available! All files are dated 1993 with the
exception of five program sets, giving you a full array of late-release
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2409
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/04/93 1:02a
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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RE> cheaper for you to get
LR> RE> caddies than it is for the average user....
LR>
LR> Perhaps. Margins are pretty slim on that sort of thing.
RE> Current Aussie prices (retail, not special deals, etc)
RE> for a single caddy
RE> is around $A15.00 to $A20.00. This is the price if you walk into any
RE> computer store that stocks them and ask to buy a caddy.....
Here in the U.S. at least, one can also walk to the shelf of that self
same computer store and buy a box of 1.44M floppies for the wonderful price of
US$15. Only a fool (or someone in an emergency) buys commodity items at that
sort of place. Caddies can be easily gotten off the shelf in several of our
local discount warehouses for US$4 in packs of ten.
RE> I believe that the viewpoint is a realistic one.... Especially when you
RE> talk to a user that says that he will have 1500 odd machines with CD-ROM
RE> drives in them... Having 2 or 3 CD-ROMs in separate caddies adds (at
RE> best $A15.00 - cheapest price I've seen for caddies is $A5.00) then
RE> multiply this by 1500, comes to $A22,500.00 additional.... the worst
RE> case makes this figure around $A70,000.00..... these are not
RE> insubstantial amounts to do what you recommend....
Neither is the cost of replacing 200 or so CD-ROM titles a year due to
damage. Furthermore, this represents a capital expenditure, always easier to
justify than an operating expense (which replacing damaged goods would be). In
addition, the time saved in not having to have several hundred emp[loyees
fiddle with caddy-less units can be substantial.
RE> And we then come back to the fact that show an "average" user a CD-ROM
RE> drive with a caddy and a CD-ROM drive without a caddy and the user will,
RE> 9 times out of 10 select the non-caddy drive.....
This is supposed to impress me? The one COMMODITY that is never in
short supply is ignorance.
RE> My own personal loathing for caddies dates back to 1989 and a CD-ROM
RE> drive (I think it was a Philips) with a "claw" type caddy that, although
RE> it looked universal was a "this side up" type caddy.... The trauma that
RE> this drive inflicted was such that I vowed *NEVER* to buy a CD-ROM
RE> drive with a caddy....
One poor implementation (or perhaps just a bad unit) does not an
engineering mistake make. The fact that you had a bad CD-ROM in no way
reflects on the performance of CD-ROM's or any associated equipment.
Les
Les
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2410
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 11:09p
Subj: Write your own CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: LEE WINSOR Number: 2411
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 2:37p
Subj: Shareware Explorer - 4 pa Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@SUBJECT:Shareware Explorer - 4 pack N
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From: JAMES BROOKS Number: 2412
To: KEN TULLY Date: 08/31/93 6:46p
Subj: Re: Busty Ver. 1.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ken !
In a message of 19-Aug-93 you wrote:
KT> I have a copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0 for sale to the Highest
I will give you $20 + s/h.
James "Alex" Brooks
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2413
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/03/93 10:03a
Subj: Re: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> JS>> oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc"
DR>
DR> GP> It may not be your "thing", but hey, why shouldn't it be available to
DR> GP> those who might be interested? A little bit of tolerance, please, for
DR> GP> people whose interests might be different than your own.
DR>
DR> We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
Well, that just shows a bit of prejudice. With the medical community really
drifting toward accepting homosexuality as a medical problem rather than a
learned behavior it would be wise to change or atleast re-evaluate your
opinion. You would not get mad at someone because they had cancer would
you? THen why not think that in a world with 5.5 billion people that there
can't be a disease, a defect at birth that makes them different! But,
since this is straying from the CD-ROM topic we better cool it.
Moderator - Sorry about that it just deserved a reply.
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2414
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/03/93 10:08a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> We have a "disc of the month" club around NOW for CD-ROMs - I saw their
BF> literature at the One BBS Con....
There is PSL disk out of Houston Texas, and they have a Shareware disk of
the month with about 350 megs on it for $19.95.
(PSL=Public software library)
Ken Harvey
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 2415
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/04/93 3:25a
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EE>RP>could by an optional 20 dollar controller to use the Panasonic wit
EE>Problem: I currently have it without drivers. Know where I can get
EE>easily? the ROM is a CR-523-B with the seperate 8 bit controller.
EE>
EE>And, bonus question: Do OS/2 drivers exist for this combo, or just wh
EE>used with the SoundBlaster?
EE>
EE>Thanks in advance
EE>Eric
The Creative Labs BBS has the latest drivers for use with the Panasonic
CDROM's to include OS2. I suspect these will only work if you are using
a sound blaster product as the controller. Their number is
(405)742-6660. I don't know how good the OS2 drivers are as I haven't
felt the need to switch from my DOS 6, QEMM 7.01 and windows
combination. I not convinced that OS2 is the way to go but then I
haven't had the problems with windows that other people seem to
experience.
I haven't seen drivers for the 8 bit controllers on any BBS's I
frequent. MPS multimedia (page 569 of the September Computer Shopper)
offers the Panasonic with the 8 bit controller so I'm sure they would
make you a deal on the drivers for DOS (and OS2 if it exists) for the 8
bit controller. One last thing to consider is that I have heard that
the Panasonic drives perform better with the sound blaster used as the
controller but I can't substantiate this as I have only used the
CR-562-B with my SB16 ASP.
Hope this helps.
Bob
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 2416
To: STEVE WON Date: 09/04/93 8:14a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
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SW>Being 320 ms access time with 300 kb/s is obviously better than the
SW>Mitsumi and they are in a similar price range. Using Norton Speed ca
SW>may help things also. Is there any disadvantage to the slide out tra
SW>rather than a caddy system? Has anyone had any compatibility problem
SW>with this drive?
Generally, data on a CD is accessed sequentially. The difference
between 320ms and 200ms is not as great as it might seem. After all it
is only just a little over 1/10 of one second per access.
As for the caddy there are two sides to the question. If you have a
caddy drive and you purchase a caddy for each CD you purchase (an added
expense of at least $5.00 per CD) you will only handle the CD
directly once, when you place it in the caddy and you minimize the
possibility of damaging the disk. On the other hand if you are like me
and have invested several thousand dollars in your computer equipment
you will probably treat it very delicately and will most likely never
damage one of your CD's inserting it in and out of a CDROM with a
motorized tray. In the seven years I have been purchasing music CDs
using portable and car CD players I have yet to trash my first CD. You
know how you are going to use your computer so you have to decide for
yourself.
Using Mayo Clinic, Street Atlas USA, Atlas Pack 3, PC-Sig library 11,
and the 7th Guest, I have not ran into any problems. As we all know,
system setups and computer hardware, along with their associated
gremlins, very greatly from system to system so I can't guarantee that
you will have the same success I have had.
SW>Can anyone tell me if updated drivers would be obtained from Panasoni
SW>or Creative Labs? I hear that this drive was a joint venture between
SW>the two companies. I also read that a program is not included to pla
SW>music CD's with this drive. Is that correct? If so, can any ole
SW>program that plays music CD's on other drives be compatible?
Current drivers can be obtained from the Creative Labs BBS, even for
OS2. I suspect these drivers will only work using Sound Blaster cards
as the driver. I do not know if they will work with the separate 8 bit
controllers. Since it is not particularly likely that I'll scrap my
$229 SB16 ASP card any time in the near future, it doesn't make much
difference to me.
The sound blaster cards come with programs to play music CDs. I also
use a generic program called CDDB to play music CD's under windows so I
expect that other generic programs would work without any problems.
SW>Also what sort of RAM is needed to load the drivers for the Panasonic
SW>Is the size comparable to the other drives? I assume that it will be
SW>able to be loaded into high memory.
I use QEMM 7.01 to load the Sound Blaster Driver in high memory and it
takes 11K. This compares to around 20k to load the Mitsumi driver high.
Add to this another 16K to load MSCDEX high, which all CDROM's need to
communicate with DOS.
I have no hesitations in recommending these drives to anyone, especially
if you already own a sound blaster card with controller. They offer
allot of performance for the cost. Hope this helps.
Bob
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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Number: 2417
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 2:08a
Subj: CD ROM Received Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, Mike just wanted to tell you that I have received the Mayo Clinic CD
that you sent to replace the Family Doctor CD I returned to you.
... Thanks, Mac in Tampa. FL
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2418
To: RICHARD POUNCY Date: 09/04/93 10:34a
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Richard Pouncy beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
RP>DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a
RP>DS> CD-ROM?
RP>
RP>Try HyperDisk by HyperWare. So far it has been great.
What??
As far as I know, Hyperdisk does NOT cash CD's. What version are you
using? What parameter specifies the cd rom drive? I have version 4.5 and
it does NOT do cd rom drives.
Ron
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2419
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/04/93 10:50a
Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Al Koller beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
AK>Hi Ron. The OS/2 update package is available to anyone with a previou
AK>version of OS/2 OR any prior DOS....
IBM says otherwise.
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 2420
To: MICHAEL KESSLER Date: 09/03/93 11:20a
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There are two execellent choices but you will probably want to wait a
couple of monthes if possible. The first is CD32 which should be
released here in America from Commodore very soon. Basically it is a
CDTV but with a Dual-Speed CDROM and an Amiga 1200 motherboard. The
cost is around $300.00, and for that you get a CDROM with a 68020 CPU
and a couple of meg of Chip RAM, etc. The second choice is to buy the
next generation of CDROMs from Commodore. They are for the 2000, 3000,
4000, 1200 computers and are Dual-Speed. They haven't been released yet
either, but they shouldn't be too far off. If you need something now,
Commodore's solution is to buy a CDTV and network it. Possibly you
might even try disecting an A500 CDROM and use it in the 2000?
Peter Lasne
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From: TIM N. TASHPULATOV Number: 2421
To: RICK BYERS Date: 08/30/93 12:39a
Subj: Audio CDs on CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rick!
18 August 93, Wednesday 21:18, Rick Byers wrote to All:
RB> Does anyone know where I can get some good text files or a book
RB> that would tell me how I can Instruct the CD-ROM drive to play an audio
RB> CD? I have programs that will do it but I'd like to expand on these and
RB> have had troubles telling MSCDEX to play it. Well thanks alot, Rick Byers
RB> --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Reg)
RB> The Prime Directive, ZyXEL 19.2, Node *1 (416)382-3446
RB> (1:247/301)
Maybe it is not what you relly want, but I use to play my audio CDs under
WINDOWS via MediaPlayer - just set up your CD-ROM driver!
Tim
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From: ALEXANDER ANDREYEV Number: 2422
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 3:06p
Subj: Wanted: cheap used CDROM disks.... Refer: NONE
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Hello dear All!
Big troubles in Russia now: I have only one CDROM disk!
I need several subjs
Topic: MS DOS/WINDOWS/UNIX/programming, database, info, books, music.
Yours Alexander
andreyev@softjoys.sbp.su
2:5030/69 ;-)
Varshavsky str. 50, app. 17
196128, St.Petersburg, Russia
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 2423
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 08/18/93 10:14p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> STORM II STORM III
TD> I have to tell you that this is one dangerous ad.
Depends where you live.
TD> On July 20th, I was arrested and booked on charges of sale &
TD> possession of obscene material. My BBS & all related hardware was
TD> seized. If found guilty, I am facing up to 15 years in jail and/or up
TD> to $25,000 in fines.
This is really sad. You have my best wishes.
... Would you fly in an airliner built by the lowest bidder?
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 2424
To: ANDY MORRISON Date: 08/20/93 8:15a
Subj: Panasonic cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AM> I've been offered a new PANASONIC twin speed CDROM with 16bit sound
AM> card, speakers, "The 7th Guest", "Dune" plus 5 other cd titles for
AM> £499.00
You could buy the hardware quoted for about £360 inc VAT. It really
depends on whether you think the bundled discs are worth the extra.
... Don't hate yourself in the morning--sleep till noon.
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 2425
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 4:48a
Subj: lotus 1 2 3 cdrom sale / swap Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have for sale / swap the lotus 123 'speaking' cd
still wrapped in plastic / unregistered
Price 100 pound / 5 good shareware cd's
I live in Kent U.K.
regards
paddy
... Comms modes = Telephone, Telegraph, Tell a woman
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From: ANDY MORRISON Number: 2426
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 10:44p
Subj: CD-rom Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi folks!
Sorry for dropping in on the echo but I need some help!
This has probably been asked a thousand times or more but as I am new I ain't
read any of the older messages!
I am looking for shareware for ma wee bbs! They require the "files.bbs"
directory.
Can anyone help me out??
I'm based in Scotland (that's the bit on top of England by the way..) so any
UK or Euro distributor would be handy.
Many thanks again
Andy Morrison
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From: RICHARD MAYCOCK Number: 2427
To: PAUL SZUDZIK Date: 08/26/93 2:00p
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the response, same as last time, yours is all I got. I may try
your idea when I have the time, but frankly, the interest is so low as
to make it unlikly to work
All the best,
Richard.
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From: RON ORNSTEDT Number: 2428
To: ELIZABETH RODIER Date: 08/27/93 5:17p
Subj: Re: Cookbooks On Cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Elizabeth Rodier to All <=-
ER> Has anyone tried using the Colossal Cookbook CD or the new ones
ER> called Electronic Cookbook and Cookbook Heaven? Do they have any
ER> pictures or just zipped files from a cooking echo?
Colossal cookbook is a collection of zips. It has things like menu master
and a bunch of other menu and recipe programs. I was not impressed. I was
hoping for a menu driven/windowed interface with tons of recipes online.
Not with colossal cookbook though, unless I missed something.
Ron
... "If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good." - B Gates
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2429
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/17/93 8:20p
Subj: Re: MAC CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
checker available.
;
STYLEWRI.ZIP STYLEWRI.ZIP StyleWriter, the plain English Editor.
!>Check and improve your writing style, WordPerfect,
!>WrodStar, MultiMate etc. compatible. UNZIP to a
!>sub-directory and "MONO" (for MONO) or "DEMO" (colour).
;
CORELDRW.ZIP CORELDRW.ZIP CorelDRAW 3.0 for Windows Demo.
!>UNZIP the file to a DSHD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL".
!>This is probably THE best DOS drawing package.
;
;DaVinci eMAIL for Netware LAN's Demo, TestDrive Kit v2.01,
EMINTL_1.ZIP EMINTL_1.ZIP Install disk, Volume label is "EMINTL_1"
EMINTL_2.ZIP EMINTL_2.ZIP Disk 1, label is "EMINTL_2", Needs HD disk.
EMINTL_3.ZIP EMINTL_3.ZIP Disk 2, label is "EMINTL_3", this demo
!>needs to have Netware running when installing. The LAN
!>drive where you place email need the same letter MAP for
!>every user. Use SYSCON to create a new group containing
!>only the users who will use this TestDrive, 8 chars per
!>username. Needs min of 500k free on each workstation.
;
BT-DEMO.ZIP BT-DEMO.ZIP BT (British Telecom) Demo of it's online
!>services, very good. UNZIP to sub-directory named BISDEMO
!>and enter "BISDEMO". Accessable sfrom Ireland.
;
DEMOECHO.ZIP DEMOECHO.ZIP Offline demo/tutorial for ECHO
!>the European Commission Host Organisation.
;
WIN-BASE.ZIP WIN-BASE.ZIP WindowBase Version 1 Rolling Demo.
!>From SPI, UNZIP to a sub-directory WBDEMO and enter
!>"WBDEMO". Windows database. Windows not req'd.
;
MAP-BASE.ZIP MAP-BASE.ZIP MapBase Ver 5 from NextBase Ltd.
!>UNZIP file in a sub-directory using "-d"
;
AUTOROOT.ZIP AUTOROOT.ZIP AutoRoot Plus 5 Rolling Demo, EGA.
!>Root planners, for drivers, haulage companies etc.
!>UNZIP to a sub-directory named ARPDEMO and enter "DEMO".
;
SKETCH3.ZIP SKETCH3.ZIP AutoSketch Demo, Entry level CAD
!>system from AutoDesk. Needs EGA or better. UNZIP the
!>files to a DSDD (720k) diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL".
;
CADD5.ZIP CADD5.ZIP Generic CADD Demo, CAD system like AutoCad
!>Produced by AutoDesk. EGA or better req'd. UNZIP to a
!>DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL". Very good!
;
IDEALIST.ZIP IDEALIST.ZIP From Blackwell Scientific, Demo
!>for Windows. UNZIP to DSDD diskette and run SETUP.EXE
!>from the program manager. Text retreival & manipulation.
;
ZYINDEX5.ZIP ZYINDEX5.ZIP ZyINDEX 5.0 - the fastest, most powerful
!>information/document retrieval system for PC's & LANs.
!>UNZIP files to DSHD diskette and select Run from the
!>Windows file menu in Program Manager and enter either
!>"A:Setup" or "B:Setup", see readme file.
;
RTDEMO.ZIP RTDEMO.ZIP RTKernel 3.0 Demo/Info
!>For C and Pascal programmers.
;
C-SCAPE.ZIP C-SCAPE.ZIP C-Scape with Look & Feel Ver 4.0 Demo
!>for DOS. Of interest to C developers on all platforms.
!>UNZIP to DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL"
;
VE-VIEWS.ZIP VE-VIEWS.ZIP Vermont Views with Designer, demo
!>of programming tool for user interface development under
!>C langauge. Demo. UNZIP to a sub-directory.
;
GARDEN.ZIP GARDEN.ZIP Demo of GARDEN MANAGER Pro,
!>UNZIP files to a DSDD disk in A: and enter "DEMO"
!>(or UNZIP to a sub-directory).
;
ABC-IO.ZIP ABC-IO.ZIP ABC Flowcharter and Instant ORGcharting
!>Demo from Roderick Manhattan Group. UNZIP files to a
!>DSDD diskette in A: and enter "SETUP"
;
ORIGIN.ZIP ORIGIN.ZIP Scientific & Technical Graphics in Windows
!>UNZIP file (using -d to keep sub-directory format) to a
!>DSHD diskette and then from Windows run "A:setup".
;
DRAFIX.ZIP DRAFIX.ZIP Drafix Windows CAD demo.
!>need Windows 3.0/3.1. UNZIP files to a DSHD diskette
!>and change to "A:" prompt and enter "INSTALL".
;
WINCMS-4.ZIP WINCMS-4.ZIP Communicate WINCMS, V4.00,
!>Fax system for Windows 3.0 & 3.1.
!>Enter "A:\WINSTALL" to install or remove.
;
MATCAD31.ZIP MATCAD31.ZIP Mathcad 3.1 Demo - Windows 3.x
!>For installation: Unzip files to a 1.44mb diskette,
!>change prompt to "A:", then enter "INSTALL". You
!>need Windows to be able to run this demo.
;
EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRA! 3270 for DOS & Windows
!>Demo disk from Attachmate for 3270 Emulation. Unzip to
!>a sub-directory and enter "DEMO".
;
DELTA52E.ZIP DELTA52E.ZIP Delta 5.2e Database Demo, VERY good
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
!>Delta is a very powerful relational database system.
;
DBASE3.ZIP DBASE3.ZIP dBASE III Demo & Presentation program.
!>UNZIP into a sub-directory and away with you....
;
DESIGNER.ZIP DESIGNER.ZIP MicroGrafx Designer 3.0 Rolling Demo.
!>Drawing / Graphics etc. Full program needs Windows.
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
;
;Pegasus Accounts & other software...
;
PEGWIN.ZIP PEGWIN.ZIP Pegasus for WINDOWS Demo ! enter "SHOW"
PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGASUS for Windows software, fully working
!>evaluation copy, 150 record limit. See README.TXT file.
!>UNZIP to 3½" DSHD diskette and then run INSTALL.
!>NOTE: Set your system date to 25 Nov 92 for this to work.
PEGNOTE.ZIP PEGNOTE.ZIP Nice demo of TSR that runs "behind"
!>Pegasus Junior and is called up via Hot-Key. You can keep
!>notes attached to A/C numbers or Stock References &
!>re-call them "on the fly" etc. Very good.
!>NB - Backup you Pegasus data before using!!!
CASH-PEG.ZIP CASH-PEG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus Cashbook demo
SALES-PG.ZIP SALES-PG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus add-on demo.
;
; ***** SEE OTHER PEGASUS UTILS IN THE SYSOP's LIBRARY *****
;
;
;Sage Accounting and other software...
;
SOVREIGN.ZIP SOVREIGN.ZIP Sage Sovereign Demo program,
!>UNZIP files to a sub-directory and enter "SOVREIGN".
STERLING.ZIP STERLING.ZIP Sage Sterling Demo, UNZIP to
!>a sub-directory and enter "SAGEDEMO".
SAGE2.ZIP SAGE2.ZIP SAGE Serling +2 Demo, UNZIP in
!>a sub-directory as "UNZIP SAGE2.ZIP -d"
;
ASQ.ZIP ASQ.ZIP ASQ Ver 1.30 A complimentary evaluation program
!>& memory management tutorial. Qualitas Software Inc.
;
ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT! for DOS demo.
ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT! for Windows demo,
!>unzip file and enter "ACTDEMO". This is a Windows
!>based contact manager / diary system.
;
CONTACTS.ZIP CONTACTS.ZIP Contact Manager v3.1, trial version
!>of what is an essential software program for anyone who
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2430
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/17/93 8:20p
Subj: Re: MAC CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
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!>deals with people and/or those who organise events.
!>The BEST non-Windows, TSR organiser available !
;
BINDVIEW.ZIP BINDVIEW.ZIP BindView Plus Ver 3.0c Rolling Demo.
!>For management of Netware/LAN User information
;
SSDEMO.ZIP SSDEMO.ZIP Lotus SmartSuite Demo. program, to install
!>unzip the files in a subdirectory and enter "DEMO".
!>Needs a min. of 450k RAM and VGA, Windows.
;
LOTUSTUT.ZIP LOTUSTUT.ZIP Lotus 1-2-3 Tutorial Program, copy
!>files to a sub-directory and enter GOLOTUS or
!>GOLOTUSP (for PS/2's).
;
PASTUTOR.ZIP PASTUTOR.ZIP Good Turbo Pascal Language tutorial.
;
PDESIGN2.ZIP PDESIGN2.ZIP ProDesign II Rolling Demo, to use
!>enter SETUP and then PDDEMO (ie. after UNZIPPING).
;
DCAD3D.ZIP DCAD3D.ZIP DesignCad 3D Ver 2.1 Demo Slide Show
!>Copy files to hard disk and enter GO
;
DW5-DEMO.ZIP DW5-DEMO.ZIP Demo of IBM's DisplayWrite 5 WP software,
!>copy files to a sub-directory and enter "DW5"
;
WP51-WIN.ZIP WP51-WIN.ZIP Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows ! demo.
;
TLDEMO.ZIP TLDEMO.ZIP TimeLine Project Management Demo.
!>from Symantec Corp. GANTT charts etc.
;
TF312.ZIP TF312.ZIP *NEW* version Telix Tutor / Help setup
;
;If some files are too big for you to download (maybe you don't have a high
;speed modem) you may leave an email message for the SYSOP and the file can
;be sent out on diskette for only a nominal charge......
;
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2431
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/18/93 6:19a
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
on each workstation.
;
BT-DEMO.ZIP BT-DEMO.ZIP BT (British Telecom) Demo of it's online
!>services, very good. UNZIP to sub-directory named BISDEMO
!>and enter "BISDEMO". Accessable sfrom Ireland.
;
DEMOECHO.ZIP DEMOECHO.ZIP Offline demo/tutorial for ECHO
!>the European Commission Host Organisation.
;
WIN-BASE.ZIP WIN-BASE.ZIP WindowBase Version 1 Rolling Demo.
!>From SPI, UNZIP to a sub-directory WBDEMO and enter
!>"WBDEMO". Windows database. Windows not req'd.
;
MAP-BASE.ZIP MAP-BASE.ZIP MapBase Ver 5 from NextBase Ltd.
!>UNZIP file in a sub-directory using "-d"
;
AUTOROOT.ZIP AUTOROOT.ZIP AutoRoot Plus 5 Rolling Demo, EGA.
!>Root planners, for drivers, haulage companies etc.
!>UNZIP to a sub-directory named ARPDEMO and enter "DEMO".
;
SKETCH3.ZIP SKETCH3.ZIP AutoSketch Demo, Entry level CAD
!>system from AutoDesk. Needs EGA or better. UNZIP the
!>files to a DSDD (720k) diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL".
;
CADD5.ZIP CADD5.ZIP Generic CADD Demo, CAD system like AutoCad
!>Produced by AutoDesk. EGA or better req'd. UNZIP to a
!>DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL". Very good!
;
IDEALIST.ZIP IDEALIST.ZIP From Blackwell Scientific, Demo
!>for Windows. UNZIP to DSDD diskette and run SETUP.EXE
!>from the program manager. Text retreival & manipulation.
;
ZYINDEX5.ZIP ZYINDEX5.ZIP ZyINDEX 5.0 - the fastest, most powerful
!>information/document retrieval system for PC's & LANs.
!>UNZIP files to DSHD diskette and select Run from the
!>Windows file menu in Program Manager and enter either
!>"A:Setup" or "B:Setup", see readme file.
;
RTDEMO.ZIP RTDEMO.ZIP RTKernel 3.0 Demo/Info
!>For C and Pascal programmers.
;
C-SCAPE.ZIP C-SCAPE.ZIP C-Scape with Look & Feel Ver 4.0 Demo
!>for DOS. Of interest to C developers on all platforms.
!>UNZIP to DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL"
;
VE-VIEWS.ZIP VE-VIEWS.ZIP Vermont Views with Designer, demo
!>of programming tool for user interface development under
!>C langauge. Demo. UNZIP to a sub-directory.
;
GARDEN.ZIP GARDEN.ZIP Demo of GARDEN MANAGER Pro,
!>UNZIP files to a DSDD disk in A: and enter "DEMO"
!>(or UNZIP to a sub-directory).
;
ABC-IO.ZIP ABC-IO.ZIP ABC Flowcharter and Instant ORGcharting
!>Demo from Roderick Manhattan Group. UNZIP files to a
!>DSDD diskette in A: and enter "SETUP"
;
ORIGIN.ZIP ORIGIN.ZIP Scientific & Technical Graphics in Windows
!>UNZIP file (using -d to keep sub-directory format) to a
!>DSHD diskette and then from Windows run "A:setup".
;
DRAFIX.ZIP DRAFIX.ZIP Drafix Windows CAD demo.
!>need Windows 3.0/3.1. UNZIP files to a DSHD diskette
!>and change to "A:" prompt and enter "INSTALL".
;
WINCMS-4.ZIP WINCMS-4.ZIP Communicate WINCMS, V4.00,
!>Fax system for Windows 3.0 & 3.1.
!>Enter "A:\WINSTALL" to install or remove.
;
MATCAD31.ZIP MATCAD31.ZIP Mathcad 3.1 Demo - Windows 3.x
!>For installation: Unzip files to a 1.44mb diskette,
!>change prompt to "A:", then enter "INSTALL". You
!>need Windows to be able to run this demo.
;
EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRA! 3270 for DOS & Windows
!>Demo disk from Attachmate for 3270 Emulation. Unzip to
!>a sub-directory and enter "DEMO".
;
DELTA52E.ZIP DELTA52E.ZIP Delta 5.2e Database Demo, VERY good
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
!>Delta is a very powerful relational database system.
;
DBASE3.ZIP DBASE3.ZIP dBASE III Demo & Presentation program.
!>UNZIP into a sub-directory and away with you....
;
DESIGNER.ZIP DESIGNER.ZIP MicroGrafx Designer 3.0 Rolling Demo.
!>Drawing / Graphics etc. Full program needs Windows.
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
;
;Pegasus Accounts & other software...
;
PEGWIN.ZIP PEGWIN.ZIP Pegasus for WINDOWS Demo ! enter "SHOW"
PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGASUS for Windows software, fully working
!>evaluation copy, 150 record limit. See README.TXT file.
!>UNZIP to 3½" DSHD diskette and then run INSTALL.
!>NOTE: Set your system date to 25 Nov 92 for this to work.
PEGNOTE.ZIP PEGNOTE.ZIP Nice demo of TSR that runs "behind"
!>Pegasus Junior and is called up via Hot-Key. You can keep
!>notes attached to A/C numbers or Stock References &
!>re-call them "on the fly" etc. Very good.
!>NB - Backup you Pegasus data before using!!!
CASH-PEG.ZIP CASH-PEG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus Cashbook demo
SALES-PG.ZIP SALES-PG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus add-on demo.
;
; ***** SEE OTHER PEGASUS UTILS IN THE SYSOP's LIBRARY *****
;
;
;Sage Accounting and other software...
;
SOVREIGN.ZIP SOVREIGN.ZIP Sage Sovereign Demo program,
!>UNZIP files to a sub-directory and enter "SOVREIGN".
STERLING.ZIP STERLING.ZIP Sage Sterling Demo, UNZIP to
!>a sub-directory and enter "SAGEDEMO".
SAGE2.ZIP SAGE2.ZIP SAGE Serling +2 Demo, UNZIP in
!>a sub-directory as "UNZIP SAGE2.ZIP -d"
;
ASQ.ZIP ASQ.ZIP ASQ Ver 1.30 A complimentary evaluation program
!>& memory management tutorial. Qualitas Software Inc.
;
ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT! for DOS demo.
ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT! for Windows demo,
!>unzip file and enter "ACTDEMO". This is a Windows
!>based contact manager / diary system.
;
CONTACTS.ZIP CONTACTS.ZIP Contact Manager v3.1, trial version
!>of what is an essential software program for anyone who
!>deals with people and/or those who organise events.
!>The BEST non-Windows, TSR organiser available !
;
BINDVIEW.ZIP BINDVIEW.ZIP BindView Plus Ver 3.0c Rolling Demo.
!>For management of Netware/LAN User information
;
SSDEMO.ZIP SSDEMO.ZIP Lotus SmartSuite Demo. program, to install
!>unzip the files in a subdirectory and enter "DEMO".
!>Needs a min. of 450k RAM and VGA, Windows.
;
LOTUSTUT.ZIP LOTUSTUT.ZIP Lotus 1-2-3 Tutorial Program, copy
!>files to a sub-directory and enter GOLOTUS or
!>GOLOTUSP (for PS/2's).
;
PASTUTOR.ZIP PASTUTOR.ZIP Good Turbo Pascal Language tutorial.
;
PDESIGN2.ZIP PDESIGN2.ZIP ProDesign II Rolling Demo, to use
!>enter SETUP and then PDDEMO (ie. after UNZIPPING).
;
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2432
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/18/93 6:19a
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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>> Continued from previous message <<
DCAD3D.ZIP DCAD3D.ZIP DesignCad 3D Ver 2.1 Demo Slide Show
!>Copy files to hard disk and enter GO
;
DW5-DEMO.ZIP DW5-DEMO.ZIP Demo of IBM's DisplayWrite 5 WP software,
!>copy files to a sub-directory and enter "DW5"
;
WP51-WIN.ZIP WP51-WIN.ZIP Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows ! demo.
;
TLDEMO.ZIP TLDEMO.ZIP TimeLine Project Management Demo.
!>from Symantec Corp. GANTT charts etc.
;
TF312.ZIP TF312.ZIP *NEW* version Telix Tutor / Help setup
;
;If some files are too big for you to download (maybe you don't have a high
;speed modem) you may leave an email message for the SYSOP and the file can
;be sent out on diskette for only a nominal charge......
;
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From: DENNIS STERNER Number: 2433
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 1:00p
Subj: SONY PLAYER FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Scape with Look & Feel Ver 4.0 Demo
!>for DOS. Of interest to C developers on all platforms.
!>UNZIP to DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL"
;
VE-VIEWS.ZIP VE-VIEWS.ZIP Vermont Views with Designer, demo
!>of programming tool for user interface development under
!>C langauge. Demo. UNZIP to a sub-directory.
;
GARDEN.ZIP GARDEN.ZIP Demo of GARDEN MANAGER Pro,
!>UNZIP files to a DSDD disk in A: and enter "DEMO"
!>(or UNZIP to a sub-directory).
;
ABC-IO.ZIP ABC-IO.ZIP ABC Flowcharter and Instant ORGcharting
!>Demo from Roderick Manhattan Group. UNZIP files to a
!>DSDD diskette in A: and enter "SETUP"
;
ORIGIN.ZIP ORIGIN.ZIP Scientific & Technical Graphics in Windows
!>UNZIP file (using -d to keep sub-directory format) to a
!>DSHD diskette and then from Windows run "A:setup".
;
DRAFIX.ZIP DRAFIX.ZIP Drafix Windows CAD demo.
!>need Windows 3.0/3.1. UNZIP files to a DSHD diskette
!>and change to "A:" prompt and enter "INSTALL".
;
WINCMS-4.ZIP WINCMS-4.ZIP Communicate WINCMS, V4.00,
!>Fax system for Windows 3.0 & 3.1.
!>Enter "A:\WINSTALL" to install or remove.
;
MATCAD31.ZIP MATCAD31.ZIP Mathcad 3.1 Demo - Windows 3.x
!>For installation: Unzip files to a 1.44mb diskette,
!>change prompt to "A:", then enter "INSTALL". You
!>need Windows to be able to run this demo.
;
EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRA! 3270 for DOS & Windows
!>Demo disk from Attachmate for 3270 Emulation. Unzip to
!>a sub-directory and enter "DEMO".
;
DELTA52E.ZIP DELTA52E.ZIP Delta 5.2e Database Demo, VERY good
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
!>Delta is a very powerful relational database system.
;
DBASE3.ZIP DBASE3.ZIP dBASE III Demo & Presentation program.
!>UNZIP into a sub-directory and away with you....
;
DESIGNER.ZIP DESIGNER.ZIP MicroGrafx Designer 3.0 Rolling Demo.
!>Drawing / Graphics etc. Full program needs Windows.
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
;
;Pegasus Accounts & other software...
;
PEGWIN.ZIP PEGWIN.ZIP Pegasus for WINDOWS Demo ! enter "SHOW"
PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGASUS for Windows software, fully working
!>evaluation copy, 150 record limit. See README.TXT file.
!>UNZIP to 3½" DSHD diskette and then run INSTALL.
!>NOTE: Set your system date to 25 Nov 92 for this to work.
PEGNOTE.ZIP PEGNOTE.ZIP Nice demo of TSR that runs "behind"
!>Pegasus Junior and is called up via Hot-Key. You can keep
!>notes attached to A/C numbers or Stock References &
!>re-call them "on the fly" etc. Very good.
!>NB - Backup you Pegasus data before using!!!
CASH-PEG.ZIP CASH-PEG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus Cashbook demo
SALES-PG.ZIP SALES-PG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus add-on demo.
;
; ***** SEE OTHER PEGASUS UTILS IN THE SYSOP's LIBRARY *****
;
;
;Sage Accounting and other software...
;
SOVREIGN.ZIP SOVREIGN.ZIP Sage Sovereign Demo program,
!>UNZIP files to a sub-directory and enter "SOVREIGN".
STERLING.ZIP STERLING.ZIP Sage Sterling Demo, UNZIP to
!>a sub-directory and enter "SAGEDEMO".
SAGE2.ZIP SAGE2.ZIP SAGE Serling +2 Demo, UNZIP in
!>a sub-directory as "UNZIP SAGE2.ZIP -d"
;
ASQ.ZIP ASQ.ZIP ASQ Ver 1.30 A complimentary evaluation program
!>& memory management tutorial. Qualitas Software Inc.
;
ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT! for DOS demo.
ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT! for Windows demo,
!>unzip file and enter "ACTDEMO". This is a Windows
!>based contact manager / diary system.
;
CONTACTS.ZIP CONTACTS.ZIP Contact Manager v3.1, trial version
!>of what is an essential software program for anyone who
!>deals with people and/or those who organise events.
!>The BEST non-Windows, TSR organiser available !
;
BINDVIEW.ZIP BINDVIEW.ZIP BindView Plus Ver 3.0c Rolling Demo.
!>For management of Netware/LAN User information
;
SSDEMO.ZIP SSDEMO.ZIP Lotus SmartSuite Demo. program, to install
!>unzip the files in a subdirectory and enter "DEMO".
!>Needs a min. of 450k RAM and VGA, Windows.
;
LOTUSTUT.ZIP LOTUSTUT.ZIP Lotus 1-2-3 Tutorial Program, copy
!>files to a sub-directory and enter GOLOTUS or
!>GOLOTUSP (for PS/2's).
;
PASTUTOR.ZIP PASTUTOR.ZIP Good Turbo Pascal Language tutorial.
;
PDESIGN2.ZIP PDESIGN2.ZIP ProDesign II Rolling Demo, to use
!>enter SETUP and then PDDEMO (ie. after UNZIPPING).
;
DCAD3D.ZIP DCAD3D.ZIP DesignCad 3D Ver 2.1 Demo Slide Show
!>Copy files to hard disk and enter GO
;
DW5-DEMO.ZIP DW5-DEMO.ZIP Demo of IBM's DisplayWrite 5 WP software,
!>copy files to a sub-directory and enter "DW5"
;
WP51-WIN.ZIP WP51-WIN.ZIP Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows ! demo.
;
TLDEMO.ZIP TLDEMO.ZIP TimeLine Project Management Demo.
!>from Symantec Corp. GANTT charts etc.
;
TF312.ZIP TF312.ZIP *NEW* version Telix Tutor / Help setup
;
;If some files are too big for you to download (maybe you don't have a high
;speed modem) you may leave an email message for the SYSOP and the file can
;be sent out on diskette for only a nominal charge......
;
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2434
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/18/93 5:29p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS AND DESQVIEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Windows 3.x
!>For installation: Unzip files to a 1.44mb diskette,
!>change prompt to "A:", then enter "INSTALL". You
!>need Windows to be able to run this demo.
;
EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRA! 3270 for DOS & Windows
!>Demo disk from Attachmate for 3270 Emulation. Unzip to
!>a sub-directory and enter "DEMO".
;
DELTA52E.ZIP DELTA52E.ZIP Delta 5.2e Database Demo, VERY good
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
!>Delta is a very powerful relational database system.
;
DBASE3.ZIP DBASE3.ZIP dBASE III Demo & Presentation program.
!>UNZIP into a sub-directory and away with you....
;
DESIGNER.ZIP DESIGNER.ZIP MicroGrafx Designer 3.0 Rolling Demo.
!>Drawing / Graphics etc. Full program needs Windows.
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
;
;Pegasus Accounts & other software...
;
PEGWIN.ZIP PEGWIN.ZIP Pegasus for WINDOWS Demo ! enter "SHOW"
PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGASUS for Windows software, fully working
!>evaluation copy, 150 record limit. See README.TXT file.
!>UNZIP to 3½" DSHD diskette and then run INSTALL.
!>NOTE: Set your system date to 25 Nov 92 for this to work.
PEGNOTE.ZIP PEGNOTE.ZIP Nice demo of TSR that runs "behind"
!>Pegasus Junior and is called up via Hot-Key. You can keep
!>notes attached to A/C numbers or Stock References &
!>re-call them "on the fly" etc. Very good.
!>NB - Backup you Pegasus data before using!!!
CASH-PEG.ZIP CASH-PEG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus Cashbook demo
SALES-PG.ZIP SALES-PG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus add-on demo.
;
; ***** SEE OTHER PEGASUS UTILS IN THE SYSOP's LIBRARY *****
;
;
;Sage Accounting and other software...
;
SOVREIGN.ZIP SOVREIGN.ZIP Sage Sovereign Demo program,
!>UNZIP files to a sub-directory and enter "SOVREIGN".
STERLING.ZIP STERLING.ZIP Sage Sterling Demo, UNZIP to
!>a sub-directory and enter "SAGEDEMO".
SAGE2.ZIP SAGE2.ZIP SAGE Serling +2 Demo, UNZIP in
!>a sub-directory as "UNZIP SAGE2.ZIP -d"
;
ASQ.ZIP ASQ.ZIP ASQ Ver 1.30 A complimentary evaluation program
!>& memory management tutorial. Qualitas Software Inc.
;
ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT! for DOS demo.
ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT! for Windows demo,
!>unzip file and enter "ACTDEMO". This is a Windows
!>based contact manager / diary system.
;
CONTACTS.ZIP CONTACTS.ZIP Contact Manager v3.1, trial version
!>of what is an essential software program for anyone who
!>deals with people and/or those who organise events.
!>The BEST non-Windows, TSR organiser available !
;
BINDVIEW.ZIP BINDVIEW.ZIP BindView Plus Ver 3.0c Rolling Demo.
!>For management of Netware/LAN User information
;
SSDEMO.ZIP SSDEMO.ZIP Lotus SmartSuite Demo. program, to install
!>unzip the files in a subdirectory and enter "DEMO".
!>Needs a min. of 450k RAM and VGA, Windows.
;
LOTUSTUT.ZIP LOTUSTUT.ZIP Lotus 1-2-3 Tutorial Program, copy
!>files to a sub-directory and enter GOLOTUS or
!>GOLOTUSP (for PS/2's).
;
PASTUTOR.ZIP PASTUTOR.ZIP Good Turbo Pascal Language tutorial.
;
PDESIGN2.ZIP PDESIGN2.ZIP ProDesign II Rolling Demo, to use
!>enter SETUP and then PDDEMO (ie. after UNZIPPING).
;
DCAD3D.ZIP DCAD3D.ZIP DesignCad 3D Ver 2.1 Demo Slide Show
!>Copy files to hard disk and enter GO
;
DW5-DEMO.ZIP DW5-DEMO.ZIP Demo of IBM's DisplayWrite 5 WP software,
!>copy files to a sub-directory and enter "DW5"
;
WP51-WIN.ZIP WP51-WIN.ZIP Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows ! demo.
;
TLDEMO.ZIP TLDEMO.ZIP TimeLine Project Management Demo.
!>from Symantec Corp. GANTT charts etc.
;
TF312.ZIP TF312.ZIP *NEW* version Telix Tutor / Help setup
;
;If some files are too big for you to download (maybe you don't have a high
;speed modem) you may leave an email message for the SYSOP and the file can
;be sent out on diskette for only a nominal charge......
;
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From: DAVE THOMAS Number: 2435
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 08/29/93 9:26p
Subj: arrested Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Were You on the COOK REPORT then??
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2436
To: TIM HELTON Date: 09/03/93 10:19a
Subj: AVI FILE Refer: NONE
Read: 09/07/93 8:04a Private: No
TH>We're also working on an all original & BBS ready .AVI disc. I got some
TH>more great footage this week - alligators at the Okefenokee swamp! On
TH>Thursday I floated about 5 miles into the swamp in a flat bottom boat
TH>and got some great videos... On at least 50 occasions I was within 10
TH>feet of 15 foot alligators - creatures that would eat me if they had
TH>their druthers. This will be on the disc along with the other original
TH>material we've accumulated...
Did you say there was an AVI of an aligator eating your foot? Did you
say there was an AVI of an aligator splashing in the water and you
starting the boat in 2 seconds, and then being 50 feet away? Did you
say there was an AVI of you #$(%^@( in your pants? Just want kind of
AVI's do we have here, Tim old boy????????
:-)
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2437
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/03/93 10:26a
Subj: SANYO CD-ROM DRIVE. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TS>DM>I am searching for someone who has been around CD-ROM's for a LONG
TS>DM>time.
TS>Try Bob Hall! Rumour has it that he has been in the cdrom game so long
TS>that he used cdrom disks on the wheels of the cart he used to move mammoth
TS>steaks back to the cave! <bg>
TS>Seriously, as the founder and moderator of this echo for 10 years or more,
TS>Bob will most likely have oyur answer.
Well, thought that no one remembered! And by the way, how did you know
I used old CD-ROM's on the cart in the first place? :-)
Thanks
BOB
:-)
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 2438
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/04/93 11:49a
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello NEIL!
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG,
1:396/17 or leave number and name to p'req.
Regards
Langston
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From: SCOTT REDMAN Number: 2439
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 11:14a
Subj: Starvector! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike,
I just wanted to thank you for the stellar service that Starvector
Software provided for me last week. I called and ordered the Pier2,
Nightowl9, Powerpak Gold, and The 7th Guest discs last Friday (I called
you at 5:00 PM my time), and had the discs shipped UPS Blue. Well, they
should've have been here Tuesday, but was I surprised when I got home
from work on Monday and they were already here!
Again, thanks for the great service....you have a customer for life!
*** Scott ***
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2440
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/02/93 6:14p
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>RN>Ouch! I had the IN-2000 and was not pleased with its performance and
>RN>ability to handle more than just two HDs.
>What are you referring to? The IN-2000 handles more than just two hard drives
>just fine.
He may have had an OLD bios - the VCN series BIOSs for the IN-2000 appear to
have added the 7 drive support (I have one IN-2000 with a "v3.33" BIOS that
only does 2 drives).
On the other hand, Allways will sell you the most recent BIOS for $10, or you
can download the listing from their BBS and burn your OWN PROM....
* SLMR 2.1a * "I'm not a Boggie!" exclamed Kurt Wagner.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2441
To: DAVID OLSON Date: 09/03/93 12:40p
Subj: DRM-600 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> TT> Does anyone how to make the DRM-600 (6-Disks) use just 1
>> TT> drive letter instead of 6?....
> What does something like this cost?? I don't remember seeing advertised. I
>assume it a CD_Rom drive that holds 6 disks?? Probably in a caddy like all
the
>other Pioneer CD drives??
$795 is the lowest new cost I have seen on the DRM-600A, your other suspicions
are correct.
* SLMR 2.1a * Druids do it in the woods.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2442
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/03/93 12:56p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> >I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS
> BF> I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc monstrosities. I can
> This makes no sense at all. Caddies are a lot more CONVENIENT than
>non-caddy units.
Not at all. Unless you want to spend the extra $$$ to put EACH AND EVERY CD-ROM
YOU OWN into a caddy, you spend MORE steps using a caddy drive than a caddyless
drive.
I also happen to hate the extra expen$e of those *$&*&^*@&^ caddies.
* SLMR 2.1a * Nothing is so simple the Government can't screw it up!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2443
To: WAYNE MAJORS Date: 09/03/93 1:13p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>and it's great to have an echo for CD ROM that has a moderator with the grit
to
>say "no".
Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs from
this echo?
* SLMR 2.1a * Liberal?!?!?! Go wash your mouth out with soap!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2444
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: FRONT PAGE NEWS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter,
By the way, I found a copy of Front Page News for the period: April 1990
to March 1991 if you're still interested. Price is $24.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2445
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD-ROM TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES |
5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties (a)...$59
PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
>SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2446
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: NEW SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK | | Price: $54 |
* Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
* Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
* 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
* BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2447
To: VINICIO CAVALLINI Date: 09/03/93 10:24p
Subj: ORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Vinicio,
Sorry about the oversight on your order. The extra Seedy-ROM #7 shipped
out on Aug 27 by Air Mail. I've also credited your account for the $4.00
error.
Thanks,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2448
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 09/03/93 10:27p
Subj: BUSTY #1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Steve,
I don't carry HP1, but I will have a copy of BB1 soon. Make me an offer
I can't refuse!
Later,
.\\ike
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From: PEYTON NORMAN Number: 2449
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 9:32a
Subj: CD ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
** CD Rom Disc Special **
X-Tasy BBs Vioce 1-904-492-7483
So Much Shareware $10.00
Night Owls 2 $10.00
Night Owls 4 $10.00
Night Owls 5 $10.00
Time Mag. 1992 $15.00
Up All Night 1993 $15.00
CD WinBox $15.00
Publishers Dream
Disc w/catalog $25.00
Encyclopedia of
Clip Art $25.00
Dictionaries & lang. $10.00
Game Master 2 $10.00
Windowware $10.00
Shareware Gold $12.00
World of Ham Radio $15.00
Cookbook $10.00
Shareware Studio 2 $10.00
Publishers Paradice $20.00
Romware Mag. $8.00
Sherlock Holmes game $15.00
Sleeping Beauty $12.00
CALL X-Tasy BBS line #1 492-9817
line #2 492-9821
VOICE 1-904-492-7483
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From: PHILIP WHEAT Number: 2450
To: MICHAEL KESSLER Date: 09/04/93 11:13a
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK>What type of CD ROM would be good for a Amiga 2000. The CD ROM should be
able
MK>to play photo CD's and of course be compatable with CD TV disks as well as
PC
MK>CD's (Mods,gifs ect). Price should resonable if possible.
MK>
Well, I've got an NEC CDR-25 on my A2500. For price, I picked it up as an
external drive for $159 refurb and it's worked just fine. I haven't tried
any of the CDTV disks, but I have the Aminet CD and several of the standard
BBS disks and have had no trouble with them. Just about everyone follows
the ISO standard nowdays so you should have not problems with that. I don't
think that this one is multisession compatable and it is rather slow, but
I believe you would be able to read the Photo CD's with one of the third
party CD file systems (which you'll need to access the thing anyway).
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2451
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/04/93 5:51p
Subj: Red Hot CDROM Specials Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> I take it they fixed the missing-cities problem on that disc?
Got me.....
GP> What is the relationship between 11 and 12? Lots of dupes, just an
GP> update, or are these completely different discs? Do these discs come
GP> with file descriptions etc in any kind of standard easy-to-search
GP> ASCII (not by just a proprietary search engine) format?
Most likely added to it.....you have to send off for the file descriptions on
PC Sig 12....
GP> That one sounds like a winner.
GP> Sounds like it's just about time to order a new batch of goodies. I
GP> presume you still have my credit card info on file?
Somewhere...send me a fax with all the relevant data at 615-479-1047 and will
get ya fixed up....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2452
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 09/04/93 5:53p
Subj: CD ROM List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM> Doug what is your BBS Phone Number? While back I
KM> use to call and you had
KM> a file that had over 500 CD's listed. Do you still have that file and
KM> what is it called?
615-479-1047 14400 or 615-478-2890....dl pcjcds.zip.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2453
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 5:56p
Subj: labor day CDROM specials Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PCJ "Hot" Labor Day Sale - Thru 9/9/93
All Chestnut Titles (15).$ 11.95 Phoenix 3.0............... 12.95
Battlechess............... 21.95 Phoenix 4.0 (New)......... 23.95
Compton's Interactive '93. 88.95 Prophone '92 (3 CDs)...... 29.95
Global Explorer........... 84.95 Reference Library (STW)... 17.95
Hamware 1993.............. 23.95 Software Vault 2.......... 21.95
My First Time............. 34.95 Time Almanac 1990......... 12.95
Peter & the Wolf.......... 18.95 ** While Quantities Last **
Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)
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From: DON PRYOR Number: 2454
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 5:00p
Subj: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Don
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2455
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 09/05/93 1:34a
Subj: Photo cd software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GE> Are you by any chance the Sam Jones that worked
GE> for IBM in Phila in the early 70's?
No I am not, but I did play for the Boston Celtics.<g>
Sam Jones
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From: GORD DAVIS Number: 2456
To: MICHAEL OUJESKY Date: 09/03/93 11:12p
Subj: CDROM echo falls off backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 02-Sep-93 22:58:46, Michael Oujesky wrote:
MO> According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo (CDROM) has fallen of
MO> the echolist and will be removed from the backbone.
That's a drag, I just linked to this echo...any reason for the removal?
Gord
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2457
To: DARRELL DAVIS Date: 09/04/93 2:27a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >-> I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I
-> >-> ordered it >-> directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail
-> stores seem to have >-> older packages on the shelves. The package
-> was $399 with $9 >-> shipping. > > That was a typo you said 800ms
-> there ok that sounds right.
-> I don't understand what you are trying to say. Mine is not a
-> typo.
-> The drive is a 380ms drive.
It must be a typo the panasonic 562b/563 drives have 320ms access time
not 380ms unless thats not the drive you get with it?
Louis
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON Number: 2458
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/04/93 11:40a
Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to All <=-
BH> This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads
BH> in any form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim
BH> Helton. Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also, as most
BH> people are either selling them, or wanting to buy them, and Tim has no
BH> objections to the topics of adult related material.
BH> This echo basically contains information, reviews, help, and
BH> multimedia topics (Sound Cards included) and the creation of other
BH> echo's would be redundant to the FIDONET concepts.
BH> the ever popular topic of multimedia.
Hi Bob, from a displaced, but happy former Okie!
Some thoughts on the changes you propose: for a long time, the CDROM_SALE
echo was not available to me on the Boards I had access to. Unless there
are frequent mentions of such access, there is not any way for 'new' users
to understand that there is another echo for that. I didn't know of its
existance until someone mentioned it, since it didn't show on the list
of available echoes on the board(s) I was using, but CDROM did. So, with
the provision that a notice be (maybe added) on the echo periodically
advising novice browsers to look for and ask sysgods for the CDROM_SALE
echo, this would be a step away from service to readers.
Next, re: X rated ROMS for sale. Yes, it could go on the CDROM_SALE area -
I fully understand you don't want it here. However, maybe there are some
who might want it separate from the CDROM_SALE echo too so they don't
see it. Since that is a different echo and different moderator, lay it
on the table here for moot for a while. Just a thought.
However, I AM concerned about stuffing Multimedia into this echo. I
for one have no interest in trying to separate the vague 'subject' lines
that say "CDROM" and find it is a multimedia, which I don't have
and don't (obviously) use or need. I STRONGLY FEEL IT NEEDS ITS OWN
ECHO, NOT THE GENERIC CDROM ECHO. I can see it as becoming big and then
we, the reader, can't separate which is which.
Just my comment. Thanks for asking.
... My CD Rom is slower than your CD Rom!
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2459
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/04/93 2:53p
Subj: Re: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Pioneer is coming out with a follow-on to the
BJ> fanatastic 604X, that will
BJ> hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a list
BJ> about $3000.
GP> That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
GP> with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
GP> it.
First of all, no matter WHAT, it will cost them more than $10 per unit
to produce the larger unit. Secondly, if the drive has the ability to play
three CD's simultaneously, then it is essentially three drives in one cabinet,
and it costs them three times as much for mechanism, about the same price for
the power supply and electronics, and a bit more for the enclosure. If the
drive can only access 1 of 18 at a time, then the power supply and electronics
will be almost identical, but the mechanism will cost significantly more, being
larger and more complicated, and the case will of course be a bit more.
If this beast will support 3 SCSI ID's and three simultaneous access,
then $3000 doesn't sound like that big a ripoff.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2460
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/04/93 3:20p
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PL> The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than
PL> what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo,
PL> from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :).
Once again, you are in Australia, so pricing is different.
RE> Whilst I have seen ads for caddies for $A5.00, and some
RE> companies offering
RE> "free" caddies if you buy x number of CD-ROMs at a time, the average
RE> price for a single caddy for the casual user appears to
RE> be about $A15.00.
I am talking about walk-in-the-door, showroom-type electronics
warehouse stores. Altex Electronics will sell, off the floor or mail order, to
any yahoo that walks in the door a package of 5 CD-ROM caddies for $US19.95
plus S&H or applicable tax. There are two of their outlets within 15 minutes
drive time from my house.
RE> Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case, open
RE> new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple,
RE> foolproof process...
RE> No hassles!
It is neither simple nor foolproof, and requires at least twice the
number of steps that the caddies do. Some cases are difficult to open. Once
opened, extracting the CD can be hazardous both from the perspective of
fingerprints and from the possibility of dropping the Cd while trying to
extract it. Most jewel cases tend to hang on to the CD rather firmly, and
getting it out can be a minor hassle.
RE> Well, some of the shareware CD-ROMs (Simtel, CICA Windows) are available
RE> for $A20.00 or so
Shareware, yes, because (at least in the U.S) it is illegal to charge
for the distribution of shareware except to recover the cost of that
distribution, which puts shareware CD's in the realm of $15-20. The AVERAGE
cost, however, is more like $70-100
RE>... even a $A5.00 impost is 25% of the cost of the ROM.
The expenditure of which can easily save one from having to buy a new
CD-ROM.
RE> And if, as I said before, you were a casual user with an average caddy
RE> price of $A15.00, this makes it rather expensive....
The casual user price is more like $4. Dealer costs are probably
around $3-$3.50
BTW, if you have an audio CD player, is it a caddy type or a tray type??
I have several, and they all use caddies. The six disk magazines are
even cheaper than the singe caddy, at $8 for a magazine. OTOH, the audio CD's
are much cheaper in general than the data CD's.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2461
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/04/93 3:25p
Subj: Re: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA> > BJ>hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a
IA> > list
IA> > BJ>about $3000.
IA> > That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
IA> > with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
IA> > it.
IA> Yes, you are exactly right. Infact I have the audio
IA> version on my stereo system. TTYL
If the data unit is analogous to the 18 disk audio unit, then $3000 is
extravagant (although it costs more than $10 more to build the 18 disk unit).
If, however, the unit can play 3 CD's simultaneously, then $3000 isn't all that
extravagant, at all.
Les
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From: RAND Number: 2462
To: ARNIE HAYDU Date: 09/03/93 8:55p
Subj: Comment from Arnie Haydu Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AH>Welcome back from vacation
I have to believe you mean someone other than me. Perhaps there is another Rand
on this board?
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From: DON RIEB Number: 2463
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 9:33p
Subj: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have just finised updating the CDROM catalog for SaveWare. If you wish
to recive a copy freq 1:115/724, the printed catalog will be done shortly and
I will anounce when it is done. Those of you that have sent me your name and
address allready will be sent a catalog by mail when it is finished. Please
find in the electronic form CDROM catalog, the FIDONET.TXT for details
on a FIDONET member discount.
If you would like to be on the mailing list for the printed catalog send your
name and address to 1:115/724 or write:
SaveWare, P.O. Box 274, Glenview, ILL. 60025
Or call Don at 708-657-1160
SaveWare Computer Shopping BBS 708-724-2427 Node 1, 16.8 Dual Standard
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From: JEAN-FRANCOIS LAVOIE Number: 2464
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 8:21p
Subj: CD Problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi everybody,
I have a little problem with my Panasonic-SBpro CD-ROM drive:
when it looks for data&sound at the same time, like in narrated animations,
the A:, B: and C: drive LEDs begin to flash alternately. I didn't have this
problem before, and I was wondering if it could be the Multi I/O card that
could be the problem since I changed it recently... When reading and audio CD,
no problems and the same thing when reading only data cd-roms. So what do you
think of it?
...:::||| J-F |||:::...
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 2465
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 10:05a
Subj: SUPER VALUES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi people!
We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:
Cdn$ US$
ProPhone 1993 7-disc set SOLD OUT
American Business Phonebook SOLD OUT
Erotic Encounters Vol. II 35 26
Foxes 25 19
Busty Babes Release 3.0 25 19
Shareware Studio II 20 16
Night Owl 9 35 26
Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9
C ya soon!
.\\ichellea
306-789-4654
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2466
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/04/93 6:00p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am 14 on the 27th of this month. I haven't beaten Spear Of Destiny but I
will. I got it a while ago but I haven't put it on my computer yet. We have a
mitsumi I think but it's on our board so the only way I could use it is through
the network and that is really slow so I'll have to wait a while. KQ6 is
awesome! It has bits of fairy tales it it and alice in wonderland iis in there
too. It took me a while to beat it but I just LOVE a challenging game! Have you
ever played Aces of the Pacific? I'm not really into flight simulators but I
really like this one. Also I think caslte of Dr. Brain is pretty good. That is
a challeging game depending on what skill level you have it on. Another one of
my favorite Sierra games is Conquests of Camelot. I like the arcade bits it has
in it. You get to joust with the black knight and have a sword fight with some
other guy. It's pretty cool. Y'know what? I have just started playing KQ5 and I
don't have the manual. Well, I got to the bandit's camp and there is a copy
protection! So... I'll have to play another game or find a way to get the
manual or beat the copy protection.
L8R--
Rachel Repstad
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2467
To: BRIAN KING Date: 09/04/93 6:04p
Subj: Laura Bow II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BK>I saw your message to Henry Paul saying that you had Laura Bow
BK>II. I also have this game but I am stuck on level two. I am in
BK>the museum. I have talked to all the people and then they
BK>disappear. I have picked up the glass on the table but other
BK>than that I can not do anything.
BK>PLEASE HELP!!!
BK>The game came with a sierra hint line number but when I ring them
BK>up there is no clues left there.
BK>Would be grateful for any help that you could give me.
Brian,
You need to go into the gift shop and use your magnifying glass on all
the souvenier daggers until you find the one that doesn't say PITTSBURG. After
that happens you should get kicked out of the gift shop by the security guy and
I think after that happens the person you met at the dock (I think his name is
Steve) will come in. After that you should be able to go through the arch way.
If that doesn't work then let me know. I'll be here anytime.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 2468
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/04/93 7:33p
Subj: Re: NO BBS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to NEIL BERGMAN <09-02-93 23:21> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
IA>> > SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
IA>> YES
No-No-No-No-No-No-No---Read the back of the cover--This is one company who I
feel will be very aggressive with litigation if their scans are put on the
BBS--This disc *IS NOT* BBS acceptable, and should not be used as such.
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From: MIKE ZAREK Number: 2469
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/04/93 7:36p
Subj: Re: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Gordon Peterson <09-01-93 20:12> Dave Reed wrote:
DR> We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
In other words, it's *moral* if white, Christian folks do it, and immoral for
everyone else.
Mike
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2470
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 09/03/93 6:40a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
>EF>
>EF> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA
>
> Could you sell me 4 of them for $12.50? :) I really don't need all
> eight.
>
>
> Steve
No
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2471
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/02/93 11:46p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> Do you have anything newer? <g d & r>
Phoenix 4.0 and lots more <g>.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2472
To: JOHN PEARCE Date: 09/02/93 11:46p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JP> Is the file available for f'req? By points or just
JP> systems in the nodelist?
Has to be downloaded directly from our BBS....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2473
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 12:02a
Subj: Labor Day CDROM Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PCJ "Hot" Labor Day Sale - Thru 9/9/93
All Chestnut Titles (15).$ 11.95 Phoenix 3.0............... 12.95
Battlechess............... 21.95 Phoenix 4.0 (New)......... 23.95
Compton's Interactive '93. 88.95 Prophone '92 (3 CDs)...... 29.95
Global Explorer........... 84.95 Reference Library (STW)... 17.95
Hamware 1993.............. 23.95 Software Vault 2.......... 21.95
My First Time............. 34.95 Time Almanac 1990......... 12.95
Peter & the Wolf.......... 18.95 ** While Quantities Last **
Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 2474
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/03/93 6:36p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rowan!
RE> Nope, just stick the 8-bit paddle card back in and lose a slot! In fact
RE> I'm thinking of using a PAS16 with the
RE> next CR562B as it doesn't have the
RE> annoying sound dropouts in the speech of T7G!
An 8-bit card comes with a *double* speed drive? How does this affect the
drives performance? I was seriously considering this drive for the ejectable
tray feature plus of course the *bang* for the buck. Is the 450ms access in
double-speed mode noticeable plus the afore mentioned card. Thank
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 2475
To: RICK COOKE Date: 09/03/93 8:08a
Subj: Re: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I saw a show on HBO featuring a CDROM that was a Virtual Reality
>Xrated disk. Anyone heard of this, and know where it is available?
Good News:
Reactor Inc.
445 West Erie
Chicago, IL 60610
312-573-0800
$95
Bad News:
Requires -
Color Mac II
13 inch monitor
3.5 mb free RAM
CD-ROM drive
(Above information from New Media magazine, November 1992 (with review))
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From: THOM DAVIS Number: 2476
To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 09/03/93 4:53a
Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Yves!
In a message to All <08/26/93> Yves Desjardins wrote:
YD> Hello All!
YD> I'm looking for some type of benchmark test for a CDROM. Any suggestion?
YD> What is the "standard" benchmark test. Also where can I get it?
If you know of anyone who has the Megarom CD demo, they have one on
there, I have it here but is's on the cd-rom which is run with ROMDOOR
and megarom is not in all the time.
Plus they also have a chkcd.exe program that will let you run a check
disk like program over the cd
--Thom
* WCE 1.10/2119 * Always assume the second try will be different.
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From: THOM DAVIS Number: 2477
To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 09/03/93 4:57a
Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Yves!
In a message to Janusz Surowka <08/30/93> Yves Desjardins wrote:
YD> Hello Janusz!
YD> 28 Aug 93 21:42, Janusz Surowka wrote to Yves Desjardins:
YD> JS> If you find one, tell me.
YD> I found one call CDBENCH from MegaDemo CD. It seems to work not too bad.
YD> was also looking for one called CDSPEED, that some people on the echo was
YD> talking about, however I didn't hear from anyone just of yet.....
Don't waste your money, it's a commercial program and is not worth it!
It's supposed to act like a cache, but once it fills up the cache the
program goes right back to the same old speed, sometimes slower!
--Thom
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From: JOE RINEHART Number: 2478
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 12:33p
Subj: Zmodem Help... Refer: NONE
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Heeellp!
I've made a few pleas before for help with this problem I have, but
have not received any response:( Hopefully, with a crossposted plea, a
response will be had.
After recently installing two cd-rom drives, & desqview, my DSZ (all
zmodem format) protocols ceased working for inbound callers! I tried
disabling my BNU fossil, according to Z modem docs, but that didn't do the
trick. I also tried the set fdopt=nores, but that didn't work. Any or all
help would be gratly appreaciated!
The software I'm running includes:
RBBS 17.4,
BNU 1.77,
FD 2.02
& of course DSZ.
Thanks for your consideration & looking forward to all responses!
Sincerely,
Joe Rinehart
1:157/479
(216) 297-1332 Fax/Voice
(216) 296-4446 Fax/Data ZyXEL
... Home of E-Tax (tm), Data/Fax Tax Transmission - (216) 296-4446
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2479
To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 09/05/93 1:50a
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>>> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles?
>>>> They dn't have to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
BO>> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem
BO>> like there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
>> Boris,
>> Please do! :-) Though, personally, I don't run a Mac, I
>> keep an eye out for a number of friends who do, in one
>> notable case, my boss who just purchased a 660 AV with CD...
>> Since part of his reason for doing so was because I was
>> "willing" to help him find "good" CD's to use with it, I'd be
>> grateful if you'd post some of the Mac titles from time to
>> time...
OK, coming to an echo post real soon near you....grin -:)
>> Thanks.
No problem.....
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2480
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 1:50a
Subj: Re: 800 College Boards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am looking for a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled "800 College
>> Boards" originally distributed by Queue. Request price and
>> shipping Info...tks...m2 --- MacWoof 1.5.3
Are you look for the title called " College Handbook 1992"? It offers
over 2,700 College Boards database, with stats and more, but not in
MAC sorry.
Boris Osadciw
... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2481
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 1:50a
Subj: NEW DR.CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T N E W C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((
DR. MUSIC - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
DR. SHAREWARE - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
DR. GAMES - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
DR. WINDOWS - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
All BBS READY !! - BUY 5 AND GET THE 6TH ONE FREE !!
Price - $59.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: SIMON FORSYTH Number: 2482
To: JOHN LARKIN Date: 09/02/93 4:09p
Subj: more meaning Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JOHN LARKIN
JL>> Right! How bout one full of kiddie porn?
...
TS>> This is a message to all those sickos ...
...
JL> If this is aimed at me because of what I posted above,
JL> then go look up SARCASM in the dictionary and take some
JL> lessons in comprehending what you read. If not, disregard
JL> this message.
I saw no sarcasm in your little add on, John, and I think
that's the interpretation that most people read. If you
intended sarcasm you should have added a degradation phrase
or two about the intended target of your sarcasm. In a lot
of people's books you are now a paedophile.
You have actually put yourself at risk; should an accusation
of child molestation be brought against you then this would
be damning evidence.
Don't think that those that watch aren't.
Sorry Moderator, I just wanted to give John a little scare.
Simon
CIA
(just kidding)
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From: MATT CHAPMAN Number: 2483
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 11:00p
Subj: Non MM CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone point out a CD-ROM drive (ide) that is suited for non multimedia
uses.
ie: does not require a sound card (such as the prop SB), reasonably cheap,
(available in Australia).
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From: DAN WALDRON Number: 2484
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 5:55a
Subj: Novell Netware Refer: NONE
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Hi All,
I am familiar with the hardware side of LANs, and Netware Lite and
Lantastic, but don't know where to start when it comes to Netware. Can
anybody recommend any good "laymans" guides to learning a bit about it?
Preferably publications that are likely to be available in Australia.
Am I correct in assuming that Netware requires a dedicated server? How
is DOS affected by Netware running? Any installations that I have
participated in have only involved thin-ether, but I'd be interested in
knowing the advantages (apart from trunk length) that thick ethernet
provides.
Your assistance, and tolerance of my trivial questions is greatly
appreciated!
Rgds
Dan
... I tried an internal modem, but it hurt when I walked.
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2485
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/04/93 3:16p
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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On 09-03-93 Tony Stott wrote to David Winger...
TS> On 08-31-93, David Winger elucidated to Sunny Leung:
TS>
TS> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
TS> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
TS>
TS> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to produce your
TS> own one-off cdrom disks
A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
TS> DW> SL> Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it possible to
TS> add
TS> DW> SL> more files to the CD?
TS> DW>NO!
TS>
TS> WRONG AGAIN! Using multisession writing and reading drives, you CAN
TS> add more and read it.
Ok, I was wrong there.
TS> DW> SL> What's the difference between a CD and a optical disk (and
TS> DW> SL> what's a WORM drive)?
TS> DW>
TS> DW>A CD uses a laser beam to read the information of the disk, an
TS> DW>optical disk is the same as a floppy disk except that it uses a
TS> DW>laser to keep the head aligned with the disk, because the tracks
TS> DW>on the disk are so fine.
TS>
TS> Guess what? WRONG AGAIN! You are describing floptical technology,
TS> magneto optical disks do not work that way, neither do cdroms.
Sorry, Right again!
I never said CD-ROMS work that way. Read the message again.
Flopticals and Magneto Optical Disks are supposed to be the same thing.
This is fromm Your Computer January 1993 edition on page 118.
THE SYSGEN FLOPTICAL
A normal floppy drive just steps the heads across the disk in
preset increments. At the same time the rotating part of the disk
wobbles about, and there are quite large tolerences in the way the
disk fits in the drive. Use of this sort of positioning technique
cannot achieve the tracking accuracy needed to read and write 21MB
disks accurately. The solution to the problem is to use disks that
have tracking lines burnt into them by the manufacturer, and then to
use a drive that has a laser to read the tracking lines and keep the
magnetic head literally right on track.
It should also be noted that floptical drives can read standard
1.44 meg and 720k 3.5" floppy disks.
There is also a very good article in the same mag on page 149 about CD's.
TS> David, I suggest you borrow a book or two from your library and
TS> learn more about the technology before trying to answer questions,
TS> as you might mislead people.
I do read my books. I currently read about 5-6 mags each month.
I appologise if I mislead any one.
___
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From: KYM HOBBS Number: 2486
To: MICHAEL TURNER-CRAIG Date: 09/02/93 1:44p
Subj: 7TH GUEST... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Try reinstalling the 7th Guest, it seems to have fixed the problem on my
computer.
Chow!
Kym Hobbs
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From: COLIN BELL Number: 2487
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 5:45p
Subj: Drive speed Refer: NONE
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I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my BBS. I don't
4 really want to spend too much on the drive but I have to be sure that it
will be able to keep up with people downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS &
the serial port is locked at 19200 bps. I noticed that the NEC drives that
the local store carries (the cheaper ones) have 500ms access speed. Is that
fast enough to keep up with my modem. My HD's are all quantums that are
about 15ms so I thought 500ms was a BIG difference. I will later be getting
a multispin cdrom for my personal machine so don't really care if the BBS
one can't do photo-cd's or whatever. What speed is the Pioneer DRM-600A ??
coz I notice a few sysops use that.
How does the Pioneer drive handle it if 2 people are online & they try &
access files on different disks at the same time? 8) I presume it is 1
mechanism with a carousel or is it 6 mechanisms & able to access each at
the same time.
Thanks
CB
*FSED91h*
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From: RANDY RUZICKA Number: 2488
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/04/93 8:02p
Subj: MODEMS Refer: NONE
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Ian, I had the same modem. It was damaged by lightening 3 weeks ago.
When I tried to call tech support, received a disconnect message.
Since I have not seen a ad from them in the Computer Shopper for
awhile, I am assuming that they went out of business. I received
MTEZ communication software from them but I use TELIX instead.
Never used the FAX part of the modem so I am not experienced
it that use. Nice thing about TELIX that it can provide you
with a initialization string for the modem. I had some problems
with local BBS's. On some boards I was getting 2400 BPS transfers
even though I connected at 14400. Was not impressed by the modem.
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From: STEVE WON Number: 2489
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 11:07p
Subj: Revell's European Racers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone had a chance to try out Revell's European Racers on CD? Any
comments as to whether this is good or bad or otherwise? I am
considering buying this because it looks interesting, but have not had
the chance to try it out.
I would appreciate any input.
... Some are weather-wise, some are otherwise.
* TLX v3.00 *
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From: BRAD LEWIS Number: 2490
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 6:00p
Subj: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C noway Refer: NONE
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About a year ago I purchased a SBPro mutimidia kit with an Internal CD-Rom
drive Model 521C and You would not believe the different stories I get as I go
from store to store with my question.
I have been told that Creative Labs still includes the same CD-rom drive in
the kit as it did back then. I have my doubts. I bought Nightowl 9 and found I
could not read it; so, I began my quest to find out why.
I phoned the Nightowl distributers and they told me that they are just
starting to hear about this and are considering releasing another version of 9
so the older CD-ROMs can read it. I called Creative labs and was told that
there are 2 types of drives and 2 formats for writing to CD's . THey told me I
can only read CD's that have a maximum of 540 megs approx. while the newer
drives can read cd's with up to 680 megs. Now I am wondering what drive to buy
next and how long before something comes out it can't read.
If anyone can shed more light on this or maybe warn people about the SBPro
mutimedia kit, if it is true that they are still including the older style of
drive, I would like to hear from you.
Thanks
-= Brad =-
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 2491
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 09/04/93 12:02p
Subj: Re: Need number Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoted Tom Arruda to All about Need number on 08-29-93 11:41 <=-
TA> I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from
TA> a Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the
TA> drive. It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in
TA> Windows. I have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run
TA> under dos, both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a
TA> 486dx33 with 8megs of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton
TA> SpeedCache 4.0. I need the number for Creative Labs BBS. Any help
TA> would be GREATLY appreciated.
I'll do better than that! I'll give you the BBS number, the fax number
AND the voice number.
The BBS number is: (408) 428 6660
The FAX number is: (408) 428 6633
The TELEPHONE number is: (408) 428 6622
There ya' go buddy!
TTYL!
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
... With a Blue Wave of my hand I cleared away the SLMR!
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 2492
To: JAMES BRYANT Date: 09/04/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoted James Bryant to All about 7th guest on 08-29-93 14:42 <=-
JB> I've just finished 7th Guest and it was great. The graphics
JB> were truely amazing, the sound was pretty good too.
JB> I'm selling it for $35
JB> call James at 1-619-538-0973
YOU FINISHED 7TH GUEST?!?!?! YOU ARE TRULY AMAZING!!!
TTYL!
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
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From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 2493
To: BRAD ORR Date: 09/04/93 8:50a
Subj: CD Rom Drive Sound Refer: NONE
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BO-_-( an internal double speed drive) and there is a headphone jack
BO-_-on the front of the drive that I have _never_ been able to get sound
BO-_-from using music cd's. What must I do to hear sound from this jack?
Sounds to me like maybe the jack itself or related internal
circuitry is broken. Either that, or the software you've got for
playing music CDs is faulty.
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2494
To: JOHN KROPP Date: 09/04/93 7:13a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ed, I will take em at that price if in good shape and postpaid to me
> at that figure. Let me know if agreeable. Thanks!
Sorry .... they are sold.
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2495
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/04/93 7:14a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
> I will take these. Give me your address info and I will send
> payment for the caddies.
Sorry .. they are sold.
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From: CHRIS PUSKARIK Number: 2496
To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 09/04/93 11:20p
Subj: CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Loyd.... I need some of the things done! .... Mike ...? Close enough? ok,
please reply if it's ok to send for 3 more....OK? No prob either way, !
And leave ur adress!
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 2497
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/05/93 12:52p
Subj: Fed Micro CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Have you ever given any thought to having a booth at the
Fed Micro CD-ROM convention in Washington D.C. ? It is a
great convention. MrCDrom was there doing a huge business
at what I thought were high prices. (Night Owl 8 $59,
PC-SIG #12 $69, Compton's MPC encylopedia $295 for example.)
The convention lasts 3 days several times a year and is
heavily attended. I don't know the details about booth
cost/availability but can get them for you if you want.
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From: BURRELL LEATHERWOOD Number: 2498
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 1:38p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
for those of you who purchased a mitsumi drive and wish to hook it up to your
soundblaster pro 16, do the following:
hook your 40 pin cable from your drive to the card that came with it.
hook your audio cable (4 pin) from your drive to the 4 pin cd audio on your
soundblaster. but you need to make 1 modification to the 4 pin cable.
the grounds on your cd are 2 & 4. on the soundblaster they are 1 & 3. you
need to re-wire the 4 pin as follows:
cd-drive 1 2 3 4
\ \ / /
sb pro 16 4 3 2 1
it works.
burrell
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 2499
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 4:51a
Subj: Mod, 669 or wav on cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anybody seen a CD-ROM with MOD, 669 or WAV for sale?
* SLMR 2.1a * Bubble gum is bad sole food.
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From: JOHN PENDLETON Number: 2500
To: VICTOR HEALEY Date: 09/05/93 1:33a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
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VH> I understand that Atari or Commodore is issuing a new game system that
VH> uses a CD ROM drive that will allow access to files
VH> stored for PC use on a
VH> CDROM. Supposed to available this fall. Anyone else
VH> remeber seeing this announcement?
Hi Victor, you're refering to the new Atari Jaguar game system, that has
available a dual speed CD-ROM drive. As it stands right now, any of the Atari
ST series and the Falcon series are capable of using a SCSI CD-ROM, I'm using
one now! <G>
John
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2501
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 9:20p
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> NOTE: This message was originally addressed to ROB MCINTYRE and was
MS> forwarded to you by ROB MCINTYRE
MS> --------------------
RM> What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
RM>
MS> No Rob, it an educational CD package from the Joint Education
MS> Initiative at College Park Md. Deals with Earth and Space Sciences.
I am interested in this one Mike if it is MAC compatable...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2502
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/05/93 10:37a
Subj: Mac CD Info Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks Mike. Let me know if you get find a new 1993 Groliers for the Mac. The
kids want it for school this year.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2503
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/05/93 2:14p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Pls forward me a catalog. I am interested in MAC CD's
email:
michael.mulcahy@his.com
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax,VA 22031
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2504
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/03/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Hi Bob.
You do a good job with little thanks for moderating this echo, so if you think
that the changes are worthwhile, so be it. Personally I like it just the way
it is, ads and all..
Al
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2505
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 09/04/93 11:26a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Diane!
I still haven't received that NOPV8 disc. Did you send it? Hopefully mine
found it's way to you by now. Let me know if it hasn't, as I sent it via
priority mail (USPS).
Later,
Dave.
... MORALITY cannot be defined by individual choice.
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From: ANTON SWART Number: 2506
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/03/93 3:43p
Subj: Kings quest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yello.
I just wanna tell u that u're wasting your time if u fax 2 me coz nobodys
gonna be able 2 pick it up. coz the numbert was that of my dads work and there
in europe right now... :) :) :) !!! ok... welll like i said Airmail pleez!
Oh yea pleezz anser s00n coz my subscription expires in this bbs in 18 dayz
and i cant pay 4 it! - no cred. card! cheers
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From: TAEYMANS SVEN Number: 2507
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 9:51p
Subj: CD-ROM <-> SB-16 ASP. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hallo allemaal,
Als bezitter van een Soundblaster 16 ASP ben ik op zoek naar een compatible
CD-ROM voor deze kaart.
Omdat de Creative-Labs CD-ROMs nogal prijzig zijn (daar ik de meegeleverde soft
toch niet nodig heb) zoek ik dus een CD-ROM van een ander merk dat kan worden
aangesloten worden op de Soundblaster 16 ASP.
Indien U (of iemand anders) ervaring heeft met dit onderwerp gelieve dan een
berichtje achter te laten).
P.S. Indien aanpassingen nodig zijn (bijv de Interface kabel) is dat
geen probleem. Ik moet echter wel zeker zijn dat het CD-ROMmetje aan
de Soundblaster 16 ASP kan gehangen worden.
Hopelijk tot schrijfs,
Doeg,
S\/en Taeym/-\ns.
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From: TAEYMANS SVEN Number: 2508
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 12:37a
Subj: SB16ASP. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hallo Allemaal,
Heb ongeveer 6 maanden terug een Soundblaster 16 ASP gekocht en wil nu een
hiervoor geschikte CD-ROM kopen. Mogelijk zonder interface en software op
CD-ROM. Het schijnt mogelijk te zijn om ook ander CD-ROM's aan te sluiten op
de Soundblaster 16 ASP kaart mits enkele aanpasingen (aan de flatkabel). Wie
weet hoe dit moet en voor welke type, merk van CD-ROM
Alvast bedankt voor de (hopelijk) ontelbare reakties.
Groetjes,
Taeymans Sven.
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2509
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/04/93 8:28p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tony!
Friday September 03 1993, Tony Stott writes to Ronald Leon:
RL>> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist
RL>> Takeover!
TS> Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
TS> Do you have elections in your country?
TS> Do you know that people living in other countries have NO interest
TS> in your domestic politics?
TS> Do you know that many people reckon ALL politics is s**t?
TS> Do you know that this is the CDROM echo?
TS> If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your taglines
TS> Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell you
TS> about OUR politics:)
It's JUST a tagline! Besides, when some socialist a**hole can get elected with
40-some% of the popular vote, against the will of the majority of our citizens,
there's going to be a LOT of angry people! At least allow them to vent a
little steam in a harmless tagline.
Thanks for your understanding. We Americans are in the middle of a crisis,
here.
... If Clinton gets ill, send candy... he's already had Flowers!
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2510
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 8:30p
Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mike!
Thursday September 02 1993, Mike Shannon writes to All:
When are you joining Fido? I have some good software for you! ;-)
... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2511
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 9:22p
Subj: World Vision Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike, I am still waiting for the #2 disk of WORLD Visions 3 disk set. Have
you forgotten me. :{)
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From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 2512
To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 09/02/93 12:58a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Martin
Thanx for your reply. So nothing keeps me from buying one of the
devices any longer.
Gian.
Gruesse aus dem Glarner-Ländle !
* 1st 1.11 #2201 * Point of no return !!
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From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 2513
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/02/93 12:58a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Todd
Would you possibly ship your CD's outside the US (lets say to
Switzerland) ?
Greetings Gian
Gruesse aus dem Glarner-Ländle !
* 1st 1.11 #2201 * Point of no return !!
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From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 2514
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 12:58a
Subj: CD-Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there !
If anyone of you CD-Salesmen is intersted in shipping his products to
switzerland, I would appreciate to get some FREE catalogs & pricelists
of what you have in stock.
My address:
Gian A. Bisatz
Haedilochstrasse 47
CH-8867 Niederurnen
Switzerland
Thanx in advance
Gian
Gruesse aus dem Glarner-Ländle !
* 1st 1.11 #2201 * Point of no return !!
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From: ROB VAN DER OUDERAA Number: 2515
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/30/93 10:58p
Subj: Mitsumi/SB/PRO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mark,
I have a sound blaster with that input connected to my PC speaker. It means
that you get rid of the cabling to the PC speaker and connect this to
the sound blaster. But there is a snag, I found out that the sound produced
by the SB from the PC speaker output is VERY LOUD. This means that when
I am playing a game with only utilizes the PC speaker I have to turn down
the volume of the SB and turn it up again when I am playing a game which
uses the SB to its fullest.
I would like a way to stop fiddeling around with that volume controller.
Anyway, here are the needed changes I have done for my SB, in my manual it was
described but perhaps I have a more recent version :
1. Locate the PC speaker connection on the motherboard.
2. Remove the speaker connection from the motherboard.
3. From the motherboard, connect a wire from the +5Vdc pin on the speaker
connector to pin 1 of jumper JP1 on the card.
4 Connect another wire from the data-out pin on the motherboard speaker to
pin 2 of JP1 on the card.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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From: GEOFF LEWIS Number: 2516
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/05/93 7:46a
Subj: Re: WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, just wanted to let you know that the DRM 604X I got from you is
working fine, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Great boost for the
BBS!
Geoff
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* QMPro 1.50 41-6020 * Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error
correcting.
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2517
To: JOHN HART Date: 09/04/93 11:28p
Subj: Hi Speed Mitsumi FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
John Hart beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
JH>need. It's a caddyless internal drive that runs Photo and Music CD's
JH>well as CD-ROMs. 350 ms access, 150k/sec transfer rate. (513)376-112
You call that "Hi Speed??""
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * The "Fairness" Doctorine: Liberal Socialist CENSORSHIP!
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2518
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/05/93 7:05p
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To solve this problem I use the SB16SET program to raise the VOICE level
and lower the MIDI level before playing and it sounds ok. I have left messages
on the Virgin BBS to find out if there are SB16 AIL drivers.
Sam
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From: TOM KENNEDY Number: 2519
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/04/93 5:34p
Subj: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'd like a copy of your catalog Please mail it to:
Tom Kennedy
10337 Appleway CT.
Charlotte, NC 28227
Thanks.
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 2520
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 11:22p
Subj: Sb-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So, if I have a SoundBlaster-16 (which I will soon have) I can just hook the CD
ROM into the card, right?
___
X SLMR 2.1 X Canadian DOS: "Yer sure, eh?" [y/n]
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 2521
To: RANDY WHITE Date: 09/01/93 11:41p
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD'S! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RW>King's Quest VI better than The 7th Guest? Obviously
RW>you've never played either one. I've played both and The
RW>7th Guest is on another level. King's Quest VI is O.K.
RW>but nothing compared to The 7th Guest.
I havent played either one... I dont even have a CD ROM. But I'm getting one.
I would just like to know what type of game 7th Guest is? Is it an adventure
game or an action game? And whats the object of the game?
Thanks for any info...
___
X SLMR 2.1 X Canadian DOS: "Yer sure, eh?" [y/n]
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2522
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 8:52p
Subj: U.S. History CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> I need a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled US History
MM> by the Bureau of Development. CDROM to be used is
MM> an AppleCD 300. Request Price and shipping
MM> info..tks..m2
We have the IBM version in stock at $27.95 plus shipping...615-339-0235 24
hours to order.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2523
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 8:57p
Subj: Macademic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Macademic"
MM> by Quantum Leap. Request pricing and shipping
MM> info...tks..m2
You could have listed all of what you were looking for in one or two messages
instead of a dozen of them <g>.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2524
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 09/05/93 9:05p
Subj: nix pix cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We have them all for sale.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2525
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 9:15p
Subj: Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We have Mayo and Animals in stock for $25 each.....615-339-0235 to order.
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 2526
To: SAM JONES Date: 09/04/93 4:35p
Subj: Re: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Sam Jones to All <=-
SJ> I have a Panasonic 562-b CD-ROM drive and I would like to know
SJ> what software is available in order to let me view Kodak Photo CD's.
SJ> Is there a shareware prgram avaiable? I have seen one prgram (by
SJ> Kodak) but it was a DOS program and my video card (SSPro VL) was not
SJ> supported so I guess that I wold not be able to get the 16 mill. color
SJ> mode so a Windows version would be nice, is there a Windows version,
SJ> and how much is it?
SJ> Thanks, Sam
SJ> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
SJ> ! Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27)
AS far as I KNOW THE KODAK PHOTO cd IS WINDOWS prg
... My other computer is a VAX.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 2527
To: BETH CORRIGAN Date: 09/05/93 10:28a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
They sure can.... but with a catch that I can't figur out. For $17 they will
develope a roll of film and make a CD for you..... But.... it's about $35-$45
(not sure, but if interested I can find out the exact price) to transfere 24
negatives onto CD-ROM! Must be an extra cost thrown in since somebody would
manually have to find specifically which negatives on the strips you wanted.
Just curious.. is photography a hobby for you? Also, what kind of video card
are you using?
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 2528
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 7:37a
Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For those concerned about the removal of this echo from the ELIST.. I took
care of it..
The following if from a message I received to day from the ELIST node...
*************************
Area Tag CDROM addition successful!
This entry will be published in The International EchoList edition 310
scheduled for release 1-Oct-93.
Following is the current database entry:
Tagname: CDROM Area Key: CDROM
Title: CD ROM Discussion and Information
Description: A general chatter conference for discussing CD Rom and
Laser-Optic technology
Origin:
Distribution: BACKBONE
.
.
.
etc.
***********************
Fear not.... we are alive and on the backbone.. :-)
L8r.... - Wayne -
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 2529
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/05/93 7:46a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep 03 13:13>, Brice Fleckenstein writes to Wayne Majors:
--> Note: Copied from CDROM by WIMM 1.00
>and it's great to have an echo for CD ROM that has a
> moderator with the grit to say "no".
BF> Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult"
BF> CD-ROMs from this echo?
I know why... I live in Oklahoma too ... but court case or no... it's
appreciated...
L8r.... - Wayne -
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From: ED YEE Number: 2530
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/05/93 12:58a
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
NB> mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
NB> address.
OK:
Ed Yee
6608 Dalrymple Way NW
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
T3A - 1R9
Don't worry about any adult catalogs, cause I'm not interested in those. Give
the rest of the stuff.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2531
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 9:11p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I still have Busty Babes #1 I'm willing to sell or trade.
I am looking for a 386dx 40, simms, tape backup, cd rom drive or $250.00
This CD has been going for as much as $450 so lets make a deal before it is
gone.
Pat
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2532
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/05/93 3:29p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tony Stott beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
TS>RL> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialis
TS>RL>Takeover!
TS>Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
TS>Do you have elections in your country?
Yes, and we also have freedom of speech guaranteed by our constitution
which will probably be a thing of the past after Billary Clinton is done
with us. I have to enjoy it while it lasts :)
Okay, back on topic
Peace
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 226 of the Socialist Takeover!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2533
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/03/93 1:27p
Subj: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> > T7G install, which a few people are using as a measure of "how fast
> BF> > their CD-ROM drive is" reports on three installs I have seen :-
> BF>
> BF> > PAS 16/NEC CDR-55 - 300Kbps
> BF> > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 584Kbps
> BF> > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 612Kbps! (Different machine!)
> BF>
> BF> Try it with a SCSI drive that is doublespin for a FAIR comparison.
> The NEC CDR-55 *IS* a doublespin drive!
The NEC 73/74 and 83/84 series are the doublespin drives. I do NOT recall the
55 as being doublespin.
> BF> Better yet, try it with a Pioneer DRM-604X on a FAST SCSI card like
> BF> the Allways IN-2000 or Adaptec 154x - the PAS is OK, but it's SCSI
> BF> interface is NOT a fast one (generally doesn't NEED to be with most
> BF> CD-ROM drives)....
> Want to lend me a DRM-604x so's I can test it?? <g>
Soon as I get one for myself....
8-)
> BTW, as I have said before, the NEC 55 and 74-1 performed to within 5%
> whether they were attached to the PAS16 *OR* an Adaptec 1540B!
Limitation of the drive - and quite frankly, I question those figures on the
Panasonics anyway, as the DRIVE is only rated for HALF those numbers. I suspect
they have a cache involved that is distorting the TRUE numbers....
* SLMR 2.1a * I stole a ride on a passing star....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2534
To: NORMAN HAVENS Date: 09/04/93 5:13p
Subj: MITSUMI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Don't tell that to the Japanese magazines (or their readerships) that do
>serious (?) "listening tests" to determine things like the difference between
>single and double speaker cables, or the "subtle difference in sound quality"
>they convince themselves appears when a CD player is used with one of those
>stabilizers.
Why not?
Folks have been harrassing the American "esoteric audio" mags that have
claimed the same stupid stuff....
* SLMR 2.1a * You're not a REAL person 'till a Cat ignores you....
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* Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2535
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/04/93 5:14p
Subj: FASTLYNX PROGRAM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Here in Zimbabwe, I currently use an old version of FastLynx. I believe that
>ver. 4.00 or later is available.
>Can someone give me an address or phone/fax number of the company that produce
>this program, or of an agent ??
Try the CBM or CBM-128 echoes, or if you have UseNet/InterNet access try the
comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.
* SLMR 2.1a * Campus Crusade for Cthulu - IT found ME!!!!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2536
To: ED YEE Date: 09/04/93 5:42p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
>Sure, if you had a WORM, DRAW, or a ReMOD drives.
The ONLY drives that will produce a CD-ROM that is readable by any standard CD-
ROM player are the "One-off CD recorders".
A "WORM" drive uses a COMPLETELY different mode of operation, and is NOT CD-
ROM compatable in any way, shape, OR form.
Ditto "Erasable Optical" (AKA "ReMOD") drives like the Maxtor Tahiti....
* SLMR 2.1a * NOW we know what Clintion did in Russia: he studied Econ!
--- TMail v1.31.3
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From: CARL SLAWINSKI Number: 2537
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 09/06/93 2:40a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ahoy Janusz!
On <Monday August 30 1993>, Janusz Surowka was mumbling to Kevin Plummer:
JS> what the hell is this Night owl
Person who stays up late. 8-)
--- Maximus 2.00
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2538
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/04/93 10:34p
Subj: TALK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, are you playing an adventure now? I was thinking about getting into
conquests of camelot or something like that. If you'd like to play too let me
know.
P.S: If you'd like to play another game just tell me, I probably have it.
--- Ezycom V1.02 01fa005e
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2539
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/05/93 10:31p
Subj: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Yes....it sure is. There are a complete set of PCBoard file lists in one
directory called TEXT and there is a FILES.BBS in each of the
subdirectories...we have it in stock for $25.....615-339-0235 24 hours to
order...
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: RYAN MENDEL Number: 2540
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/05/93 11:29p
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: RYAN MENDEL Number: 2541
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/05/93 11:32p
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What do we have to do to buy one, do we send you our money?
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From: RYAN MENDEL Number: 2542
To: ANYONE Date: 09/05/93 11:34p
Subj: BBS CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How do you load a CD program for a BBS, a CD like Phoniex? Do you have to load
all the files and type in descriptions manually, or is there something on the
CDs that automatically loads it to the BBS, making directories and things like
that?? PLEASE help me, I would like to get it running on my BBS as soon as
possilbe, thanks!
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From: SCOTT HOLMES Number: 2543
To: WILLIAM STEVENSON Date: 09/04/93 10:05a
Subj: Kings quest v & sb16asp Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Is there a way to get KQ-V to drive the ASP?
I don't have them, but I thought I saw some SB16 ASP sound patches from Sierra
for a few of their CD games. You might find them on GEnie or directly from
Sierra.
Scott H.
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2544
To: WILLIAM STEVENSON Date: 09/03/93 6:25p
Subj: Kings Quest V & SB16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WS> Hi
WS>
WS> I've just installed the SB 16 ASP, which works well (e.g. with 7th
WS> Guest).
WS>
WS> But when I install King's Quest 5 (bought December 1992) with
WS> sound blaster selected, I get a message 'can't initialize your music
WS> hardware'. However, it does run and produce music if I select
WS> Adlib.
WS>
WS> Is there a way to get KQ-V to drive the ASP?
WS>
WS> William
I bet you have a 486, right ?. Well the old games need the updated
driver that will work properly with the 486, i had the same prob with
my Sbpro.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2545
To: SIMON COGGINS Date: 09/03/93 6:32p
Subj: Os/2 And Soundblaster Pro Refer: NONE
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SC> > Hiya,
SC>
SC> > I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with
SC> > SoundBlaster Pro set up and
SC> > working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM
SC> > working!!
SC>
SC> > I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or
SC> > whateva it's called) in
SC> > os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and the CD is
SC> > accessed and all is fine. I
SC> > just can't figure out where to get the cd-rom
SC> > extensions driver from!! mscdex
SC> > won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version.
SC>
SC> In the manual i received with my drive it told me to load
SC> SETVER.EXE if you have a lower version of than MS-DOS6. So in you
SC> can run SETVER.EXE as you boot up OS/2 it might work.. Or find a
SC> program that does the same thing..
In OS/2 you change this in the DOS SETTINGS -> DOS_VERSION you would
put something like this to set the version to DOS 5...
MSCDEX.EXE,5,00,255
-Robert
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Beta
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2546
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/05/93 1:52p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom!
On 09-02-93 TOM BULUM wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
TB> So let us in on this secret. Where can I get caddies for
TB> A$5? I really wouldn't mind knowing. Netmail me on
TB> 3:620/250. Thanks.
Sheesh! I don't use caddies, Poe does, and you ask me!
Netmail Tony Stott or Poe Lim, they should be able to point you in the
right directions! All I was pointing out (as I don't have a caddy type
drive) was that I'd seen ads for caddies for $A5.00.... Now you want
me to search for them again!
BTW, Data Highway in WA (1/2) and PC Add Ons in Qld (1/3) are the people
that are offering free caddies.... check with them as to their caddy
prices!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2547
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 09/05/93 1:57p
Subj: ATI + 7th Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Marcus!
On 09-02-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Rowan Evans...
ML> RE> The ATI GUPro I have is the ISA version - 86% is still plenty fast
ML> RE> enough for all the graphics in T7G!
ML>
ML> Well even tho it gives percentage scores, it wouldn't really change
ML> much, would it? Just the choppyness of the screen maybe?
Most of the "choppiness" went away with the 4.1 (beta) version of the
CD-ROM driver......
ML> RE> ML> Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
ML>
ML> RE> Yep! The local bus SVGA on another machine I have rated 100%!
ML>
ML> Since you've got both cards, IS there any difference between one that
ML> rates 86% and 100%?
Well, the Local Bus machine is an Integrated Local Bus SVGA.... Its
actually a HT-216 (Video 7) chipset SVGA....
ML> Is it the smoothness of the screen movement?
The HT-216 LB SVGA machine only had a slow SONY CDU-31A in it.... But
it didn't seem that bad in the screen movement.... I think that some
of the "jerkiness" and "choppiness" in T7G is inherent in the display
of the graphics and not your video of CD-ROM....
ML> BTW: If I get my hands on an EISA version, I wonder if the scores will
ML> be the same.
The AST Premmia (EISA machine) has an integrated version of the ATI Graphics
Ultra + onboard..... 100% on T7G install...
Have Fun!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2548
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 09/05/93 2:00p
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom!
On 09-02-93 Tom Arruda wrote to Rowan Evans...
TA> Rowan,
TA> Thanks for taking the time to reply to my cry for help, but it
TA> turns out my SoundBlaster16 had a bad controller section.
OK, no worries. Good to see you got it working!
TA> fine now except when I run the "Rebel Assault" demo on my Day Of
TA> The Tentacle CD, both the audio and the video stagger and strobe.
TA> Believe it or not it runs smooth on my friends Mitsumi LU500!!!
What version of the CD-ROM driver are you using?? I was given a copy of
the beta SBCD.SYS version 4.1.16 and it removed a lot of the "staggers"
that were in T7G.....
Haunt your local Creative Labs dealer.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2549
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 09/05/93 2:11p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Diane!
On 08-31-93 Diane Pencil wrote to Rowan Evans...
DP> Give me a break! A person buys a 200.00 cd rom and can't
DP> afford the 5.00 for an extra caddy? When the software costs
DP> from 10-100 a disk, an extra 5.00 for the added convience
DP> of a caddy is hardly prohibitive.
Well, a *CHEAP* CD-ROM drive in Australia is around the $A400.00 mark
and what appears to me to happen is that a lot of users want to try the
technology and, because the CD-ROM is a close relative to the Audio CD,
they *EXPECT* that a CD-ROM drive will have a tray.
Then, when they've spent the money (and don't have a lot of change left
over for additional caddies) and find out it isn't so, they have
an investment that either they swap ROMs in the caddy or they do little
with.
I had, as previously related to another person in this echo, a bad
experience with an older type caddy CD-ROM drive and vowed then and
there *NEVER* to buy a CD-ROM drive that used a caddy....
I have (I just counted them!) 21 CD-ROMs here... If I had a caddy type
drive and did as you suggested, that would be an additional $A105.00
*AT LEAST* that I would have spent. If all I'd done was buy *ONE*
additional caddy, then I have the "swap ROM" situation that I already
have with the tray type drive *AND* I'd have had to spend more money!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2550
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 09/05/93 2:20p
Subj: 7th Guest W/ 100% Video Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Again Marcus!
On 09-02-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Jon Shearin...
ML> It seems that the only people getting 100 are VLB.... unfortunately
ML> I've only got EISA.I wonder if there are any on ISA/EISA getting 100..
ML> I would have thought the ATI would have been the card to do it.
ML>
ML> Now that I think of it, I guess those DOS scores on PC
ML> Mag's video test might mean something now? I mean those GUI
ML> accelerators with poor dos scores would be poor for 7th Guest, right?
Yep! main reason behind why I bought the ATI GU Pro rather than the
Diamond Stealth Pro (?) was that the Diamond used an S3 accelerator
and this was noted as being p*ss poor for DOS use - especially with
T7G, where MCGA was the only supported graphics option!
ML> JS> BTW, the 86% with the ATI sounds awfull. I got 74% using
ML> JS> a Trident JS>8900CL ISA card on a 486SX/25.
ML>
ML> Boy, you make it sound pretty terrible... I really can't think what
ML> these percentage scores would reflect, is it the smoothness of the
ML> screen scrolls?
Considering the fact that its in a DX2/66 its possible that the processor
speed has had an effect on this score (whether for better or worse, I
don't know!).....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2551
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 2:24p
Subj: Anatomist¬ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Micheal!
On 09-02-93 Michael Mulcahy wrote to Dealers...
MM> I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled
MM> "Anatomist+" by Folkstone Design Inc.. Request pricing and
MM> shipping info...tks..m2
I'm not trying to be the moderator, but 11 messages requesting dealers
to supply pricing on *ONE* CD-ROM per msg *SUCKS*!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2552
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/05/93 2:26p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brice!
On 09-01-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Marc Circosta...
BF> > Lately I have been reading with intrest about the
BF> > Panasonic 562/563b drives,
BF> >- Will they connect to a PAS16
BF>
BF> NO. There might be a SCSI version of these drives that is compatable
BF> with the PAS16, though.
Tell everyone to look for the Panasonic CR503 as the SCSI version of
the CR562B/CR563.....
But they are hard to find! (I haven't been able to source one!)
Cheers!
o
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From: GRANT FORBES Number: 2553
To: BRYCE MCKINLAY Date: 08/28/93 4:40p
Subj: CDROM echo into New Zealand... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A welcome before you!
In reply to a message by Bryce McKinlay dated Tuesday August 24 1993 :-
BM> It would appear as if this echo has stopped being imported onto our
BM> shores. Anybody got any idea who the importer is/was??
According to a list of importers I have here, John Clarke 3:770/120
Vale F^2.
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 2554
To: BRYCE MCKINLAY Date: 08/28/93 11:54a
Subj: Cdrom echo into new zeala Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> It would appear as if this echo has stopped being imported onto our
-> shores. Anybody got any idea who the importer is/was??
So would I... and it would be nice for them to tell us it's not being brought
in anymore... I'd be willing to contribute to keep it and I'm sure alot of
other people would also.... however, I don't know who the importer was.
Cheers
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From: PHILIP MARTELLI Number: 2555
To: SAM BROWN Date: 08/30/93 11:10p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I can't answer any of your questions, but I can tell you this - on my BBS, go
into the Windows CD ROM, and take a look in the Sounds file area. (You don't
need validation to download.) There's a program in there that does what you
require, and it includes source code. I don't know what language it's in, but
then I did say I couldn't answer the question!
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From: SAM BROWN Number: 2556
To: BRYCE MCKINLAY Date: 08/31/93 11:08p
Subj: CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bryce.
-> My understanding is that these CD playing programs find out the inter
-> registers to use when talking to the CD-ROM drive through the drivers
-> load via config.sys and autoexec.bat... They're not neccerally standa
-> drives, but the drivers hopefully are.
Yeah, that sounds very good, and the more I think about it, more than
likely.
This makes things a little trickier for me, but at least I shall know
that my CD AUDIO program will work on not just my drive.... hopefully!
Thanks alot. Very kind of you to reply.
Sam Brown.
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From: SAM BROWN Number: 2557
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 08/31/93 11:11p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Philip.
-> I can't answer any of your questions, but I can tell you this - on my
-> into the Windows CD ROM, and take a look in the Sounds file area. (Yo
-> need validation to download.) There's a program in there that does wh
-> require, and it includes source code. I don't know what language it's
-> then I did say I couldn't answer the question!
Thats great, thanks alot.... Just what I needed!
I shall call in a few days.
Thanks.
Sam Brown
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From: BRYCE MCKINLAY Number: 2558
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 08/30/93 9:58a
Subj: Cdrom echo into new zeala Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David!
28 Aug 93 11:54, David Benfell wrote to Bryce Mckinlay:
DB> So would I... and it would be nice for them to tell us it's not being
DB> brought in anymore... I'd be willing to contribute to keep it and I'm
sure
DB> alot of other people would also.... however, I don't know who the
importer
DB> was.
Okay, apparantly the importer is John Clarke of 3:770/120. I'll netmail him
and ask whats going on. If he has infact stopped importing it, I shall see if
we can arrange somebody else to bring it in.
It will certainly be a shame not to have it any longer, this is definatly one
of the better fido echos around.
Bryce
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 2559
To: BRYCE MCKINLAY Date: 09/01/93 10:12p
Subj: Cdrom echo into new zeala Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Okay, apparantly the importer is John Clarke of 3:770/120. I'll
-> netmail him and ask whats going on. If he has infact stopped
-> importing it, I shall see if we can arrange somebody else to bring it
-> in.
Yes, I think that would be a good idea.. keep us posted of what you can
sort out with this.
-> It will certainly be a shame not to have it any longer, this is
-> definatly one of the better fido echos around.
I totally agree with you there... one of the few I actually sit down and
read!
Cheers
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From: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Number: 2560
To: YVES CHARIER Date: 09/03/93 11:34a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> LM> Could anybody, please, give me some techinical specifications about
> LM> Mitsumi CD-ROM drives?
> SPECIFICATIONS
> You're welcome! Hope this helps...
WOW! I think it's enought!
TNKS!
Regards,
Luciano Munhoz
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 2561
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/04/93 9:18a
Subj: Re: READING MACINTOSH DISC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I have a Macintosh CD which won't work in my Panasonic equipped IBM
>compatible.
There is a card on the market that will turn your PC into a Macintosh. It is
a Macintosh computer-on-a-card, with it's own CPU and memory, so it does not
emulate the Mac with the PC CPU. It costs about $800.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2562
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 09/05/93 6:11a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> How good are the graphics on it?
-> I was lokking for very good graphics like the ones that from a few fe
-> look like pictures.
-> Thanks
->
-> sI'm talking about the matsumi.
Could you refresh my memory about what we were talking about?
I seem to have forgotten.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2563
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/05/93 6:17a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
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-> Actually Henry, I just got my Mitsumi CD-ROM drive maybe a month ago
-> only have like 3 games for it, King's Quest 5, Battle Chess(the data
-> screwed so it don't work nomore), and 7TH Guest(A real nice games), s
-> really have any games to sell or trade, by the way what CD-ROM games
-> have, no company in perticular? TTYL
Hi Ashwin!m
Actually, I don't have any :) I got my drive BARE with cont.... I have
borrowed a few games from some friends. I got to borrow Wing Commander 2
with Ultima Underworld.
I haven't tried U.W. yet, too hooked on W.C.2!!! Man, is it cool!
I have King's Quest 5 disk version... You know, KQ6 has all the
characters with voices and Alexander has the guy that did the BEAST in
Beauty and the Beast...
There is also a 4min. movie under windows that shows behind the scenes
stuff. I've got Battle Chess on disk too. It's okay on disk...
Oh, well.....
TTYL,
Henry
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2564
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/05/93 4:46p
Subj: NO BBS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Lee!
Saturday September 04 1993, Lee Noga writes to Ismail Arslangiray:
LN> In a message to NEIL BERGMAN <09-02-93 23:21> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
IA>> >> SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
IA>>> YES
LN> No-No-No-No-No-No-No-+-Read the back of the cover--This is one company who
LN> I feel will be very aggressive with litigation if their scans are put on
LN> the BBS--This disc *IS NOT* BBS acceptable, and should not be used as
LN> such.
Oh come on... you know Ismail don't read or abide by copyright agreements.
... Friends don't let friends vote democratic!
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2565
To: MIKE ZAREK Date: 09/05/93 4:47p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mike!
Saturday September 04 1993, Mike Zarek writes to Dave Reed:
MZ> In a message to Gordon Peterson <09-01-93 20:12> Dave Reed wrote:
DR>> We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
MZ> In other words, it's *moral* if white, Christian folks do it, and immoral
MZ> for everyone else.
Now where did you come up with that? My original statement stands: It's
immoral. Period.
... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2566
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/05/93 4:47p
Subj: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
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Hello Don!
Saturday September 04 1993, Don Pryor writes to all:
DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Yes.
... Kennedy School of Driving... Bring Waterwings!
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2567
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 09/05/93 10:36p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I am 14 on the 27th of this month. I haven't beaten Spear Of Destiny
-> will. I got it a while ago but I haven't put it on my computer yet. W
It's not really that great, I whizzed it in a day 'cause I borrowed it
from a friend.
-> Have you ever played Aces of the Pacific? I'm not really into flight
-> simulators but I really like this one. Also I think caslte of Dr. Bra
Yeah, I got it about Christmas time last year. What a great Flight sim!
I have Red Baron too, also great
I can't wait for Aces Over Europe! Do you know if RAF in the Pacific
ever released for Aces of the Pacific? I have seen WWII 1946, but not
RAF in the Pacific.
-> a sword fight with some other guy. It's pretty cool. Y'know what? I h
-> started playing KQ5 and I don't have the manual. Well, I got to the b
-> camp and there is a copy protection! So... I'll have to play another
-> find a way to get the manual or beat the copy protection.
It's not really even copy protection... I've played KQ% several times.
Sorry, KQ5 :) I know a bunch of places that it functions...
Usually if you keep trying, it will go away... Save your game though!
Let me see, The bandit's tent, the Witch's house, the boat at the
seashore. I think that's it... If you have the original disks you can
call Sierra at 1-209-683-4468 and ask for a manual. It's only $5. Well
worth it.
Good to hear from you again!
TTYL,
Henry
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From: TOM BROWN Number: 2568
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 10:28a
Subj: CD for BBS Refer: NONE
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I am looking for a CD that has files on it that are for BBS use. I am
talking about doors, protocols, added features. I am running TAG bbs and it is
Compatable with almost ALL other bbs programs. It is VERY easy to use for both
the sysop and the user. It user the FILES.DIR format. If you have a disk of
this type, please let me know. You can kcontact me in this echo, Net-mail me
at 2:244/6204.1 or call my system at +49-6181-574359 (Hanau Germany).
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From: ANDY MORRISON Number: 2569
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 09/02/93 1:56p
Subj: CD-rom Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there Chris
Thanks for coming to the rescue once again!
I didn't realsise that there were so many cd-rom titles about already.
I have been given a price of £33 for Nightowl 9 (incl p&p) & £30 incl p&p for
Minerva IV.
I have heard a number of good reports about Nightowl 9 and have decided to go
for this to start of my shareware collection.
Can you match this price? A you have helped with this enquiry I would rather
give you the "sale".
Another wee question is can you take credit card orders??
If so i'll crash mail the details down to you.
Many thanks once again
Andy Morrison
Sysop Chapps Edinburgh
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From: DAVID S Number: 2570
To: MATT HANSON AND JOE PATTERSON Date: 09/05/93 8:19a
Subj: Just called to say High Refer: NONE
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HI thanks for the phone number. I am getting used to It.
Hi. Thanks for the number. I'm getting used to It.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2571
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/04/93 7:09p
Subj: Modems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ID>Does anyone know of the location of this company, or the location of an agen
ID>of Dallas Fax ?? Does anyone have experience of using this make of modem ??
I recall Dallas Fax going bankrupt with much gnashing of teeth, and lots of
people having problwms with the modem. Get onto FIDO High Speed Modems
conference and someone may be more help there. I think the short answer is
to sell it off to someone you don't mind offending and get a more mainstream
brand.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * A Sheep doesn't fly so Much as Plummet! - Monty Python
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2572
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/05/93 3:13p
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Short and simple, what comes with the upgrade kit and is it *necessar
-> for a single cdrom off PAStudio card given access to 3rd party SCSI a
-> sound cables?
All good information not repeated.
MA>Media Vision tech support tele # 1-800-638-2807 or 1-510-770-8600 or FAX
MA>1-510-770-8648. Let me know if I can help more.
Thanks a lot for the tips, will let you know what happens. You see, I am
still waiting for the upgrade kit to arrive, and I am now contemplating
piecing it together myself.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * Hey Rocky, watch me pull this upgrade kit outa my hat.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2573
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/05/93 3:15p
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
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-> up a "No device recognized" error on bootup. Chapter and verse, Insta
MA>You are using the generic driver. Use the PAS Trantor driver as I said
MA>in the previous message. That will solve that problem.
Ok.
MA>If you don't get it solved soon let me know and I will call MV and see
MA>if I can give you a copy of my driver legally.
Thanks for the tip, but perhaps I should try the BBS and see if it is
available.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * Bring order to your life .. use random numbers.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2574
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/06/93 10:21a
Subj: Re: 800 College Boards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am looking for a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled "800 College Boards"
> originally distributed by Queue. Request price and shipping
> Info...tks...m2 --- MacWoof 1.5.3
>
BO> Are you look for the title called " College Handbook 1992"? It offers
BO> over 2,700 College Boards database, with stats and more, but not in
BO> MAC sorry.
No Boris. The Title is actually "800 College Boards" and I do need a version
that can be used on an AppleCD 300 Player. THanks anyway..m2
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From: JOHN PASSANITI Number: 2575
To: MICHAEL OUJESKY Date: 09/06/93 2:43a
Subj: CDROM echo falls off backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo
> (CDROM) has fallen of the echolist and will be removed
> from the backbone.
To be precise, not being included in the Echolist means that a conference
/may/ be removed from the backbone, not that it will.
The moderator of this conference should update the Echolist entry
immediately. If the moderator doesn't, someone else should take on that duty.
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From: ANTHONY PONTORIERO Number: 2576
To: JEFF WEISS Date: 09/05/93 9:12p
Subj: WRITE YOUR OWN CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> DON'T BUY THAT NEW HARD DRIVE UNTIL YOU'VE READ THIS.
> *********************************************************************
> ***
>
> On-line storage and archiving for less than 25 cents per megabyte!
> ----------------------
> SysOps:
> o Do you find yourself deleting 20 meg a day, just to keep
> space for
> new uploads?
>
> o Can't get enough donations to buy that brand new 3 ms 1.5
> terabyte
> hard drive?
>
> o Are you buried by hundreds of unlabeled QIC-80s filled with
> God-knows-what software?
>
> System Administrators:
>
> Does this sound familiar?
> o Your users are filling up your expensive network storage with
> "mission critical data
> towhichwemusthaveimmediateaccessorwewill
> losethismultitrilliondollarbidblahblahblah .... so you'd
> better
> not take our files off-line, buddy, because we know you won't
> be
> able to restore them in time <inhale>."
>
> o And you can't cost-justify to the Comptroller that you must
> have
> that new 1.5 terabyte disk array to meet your growing
> system's
> needs. (Hell, he still thinks data processing people are
> just
> slaves to the accounting department, anyways, so what does he
> know?)
>
> Here's the economical solution to your problems. Take your old data
> and archive it onto economical CD-ROM, leaving your hard drive for
> files
> that need both read and write access.
>
> After adding a CD-ROM reader (starting at under $200), you'll be
> able to
> access any data you have transfered to CD-ROM. You'll have
> removable
> on-line archival storage just a few keystrokes away - all at a very
> attractive price.
>
> *********************************************************************
> ***
>
> Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc. is now offering data conversion
> services specially geared to the SysOp and Network Administrator.
>
> Send us up to 660 megabytes of data stored on standard DAT, QIC-80,
> or QIC-40 tapes and we will transfer that data to CD-ROM in DOS or
> ISO 9660 format.
>
> o Full confidentiality is assured.
> o Quick turn around time is provided.
> o Data integrity is guaranteed.
>
> Cost: $50 set up charge per original.
> $100 for each CD.
> For example, it is $150 for 1 CD, $250 for 2 CDs, $350 for 3 CDs,
> etc.
>
> That's less than $0.25 per megabyte!
>
> SysOps get a $25 per CD discount! 1 CD for only $125! 2 CDs for
> $200!
> Get multiple copies for additional security and save $$$.
>
> All prices are in US funds and include Priority delivery within the
> US.
> COD charges are extra.
>
> Call for Canadian and overseas delivery.
>
> Connecticut residents, please add 6% sales tax.
>
> Long-term contracts are available at a deeply discounted price.
> Call
> for details.
>
> o We can embed individual serial numbers in the data on each CD
> for authenticity verification at no additional charge.
> You can't get that level of service from the major CD plants
> at any price.
>
> o We are adding new tape formats constantly. If you don't see
> your format listed here, please ask.
>
> Please call first to schedule your CD conversion and to confirm
> compatibility with your back-up software and hardware.
>
> Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
> PO Box 4402
> Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
> (203) 759-0574 voice
> (203) 759-0553 fax
>
>
> --- Maximus 2.01wb
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>
How much for just a dupe of a cd I had made, The reason is because my machine
gas broken!
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2577
To: JOHN PRITCHARD Date: 09/04/93 11:18p
Subj: OMNI CDROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Does anyone have experiance with the OMNI CD-ROM drive from
> Creative Labs? Particularly with a SoundBlaster 16.
The MONI drive is the new Panasonic Douple Speed Caddyless drive available at
computer shows for about $230 here on the east cost. I just got one and it is
plug compatible with my SBP-16. The OMNI sells for a bit over $300 but you can
buy the Panasonic version for about $230. Same drive.
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From: JD DAVIN Number: 2578
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 1:02p
Subj: Support Shareware for $$ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CAN YOU MAKE $15 to $75 PER HOUR
SUPPORTING AND DISTRIBUTING SHAREWARE SOFTWARE?
If you have a good working knowledge of computer applications and have some
spare time, we can show you how to help other computer users discover the
wealth of shareware titles available, gain a better knowledge of computers
and increase the value of their computer system.
For a complete 30 page report, send $12.95 (OFFER EXPIRES UNTIL 10/1/93).
(U.S. Dollars, write for foreign shipping costs)
TEAM PC SALES (TM)
PO BOX 1756
IOWA CITY, IA 52244-1756
[ ] Yes, send me the complete report on how to access, market and support
shareware software. I am anxious to learn how to earn $15-75 by helping others
in their home or office,. CHARGING BY THE HOUR FOR CONSULTATION, SOFTWARE
SETUP AND TRAINING, and want TEAM PC SALES to provide me with the following:
o An advertising format and sample ads I can use today
o Example uses and program lists I can give to my customers
o A generic shareware user's manual to hand to customers
o A general shareware user's manual YOU may want to use!
o Sources for shareware software - CD ROM/BBS/mail order
o How to set up your own BBS System for shareware support
o How to set up a fax back system for shareware sales and support
o How to find pre-packaged shareware software and display racks!
o Ways for you to spend more time with your hobby and earn money!
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Please allow 2-4 weeks for delivery!
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2579
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 08/29/93 3:36p
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP>Odd.... I bought a copy of the issue in question in Greece, and mine
TT>GP>came with (one, two?) floppy diskette (although the cover said there
TT>GP>supposed to be a CD-ROM). Did I get cheated?
TT>I don't know but I can reveal that the CD in question is really not
TT>worth of anything. Only useful thing is few included TT and Type 1
Hmmm... I already called them; they promised to mail me a copy. I
guess I'll find out. Do you recall what kinds of fonts were included?
I wonder if they are ones that I don't have already (Too Many Typefonts
CD-ROM).
TT>fonts. All the PC-Magazine utilities included are ages old (newer
TT>versions do exist!) and for example there is version 93 (I think) of
TT>McAfees Scan when the current version is 107! All the other stuff are
Golly, version 93 isn't worth much today, that's for sure.
TT>demos or working models of mostly uninteresting software. The CD also
TT>has an awkward installation procedure
Does one _have_ to use the silly and obnoxious installation procedure,
or can you just try the programs on the disc as they are?
TT>menu-program before I removed the crap from my HD. If you want I will
TT>gladly sent my copy to you.
They promised to send me one. But thanks for the offer anyhow! :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2580
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 4:49p
Subj: 7TH GUEST. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>> PB> Does that mean we won't be able to get PAL video's here?
BF>>That's right! And also, we are legally not allowed to copy the NTSC tape t
BF>>PAL format - even for our own use - as that would infringe copyright!
BF>>It's a shame the Americans think they are the only people in the world!!
BF>It's a shame that Europe is the ONLY part of the world that still clings to
BF>incompatable-with-everything PAL standard....
It's worse here in France, which uses SECAM and (even worse) apparently
a form of SECAM that's used NOWHERE else in the world.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2581
To: DUANE ELLISON Date: 08/29/93 4:55p
Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DE>My wife and I have recently been looking into purchasing a CD-Rom, Sound
DE>Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was curious what
DE>people think of these bundles and of the hardware included in the
Bundles are sometimes a real good deal and sometimes a very bad one,
depending on what discs are included in the bundle.
I got several Software Toolworks discs in the bundle with my drive...
the encyclopedia is at least very satisfactory, the reference library
disc is really neat... but their US/World atlas disc is quite
disappointing (the US Street Atlas/Global Explorer discs are FAR
superior).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2582
To: JOHN ROBERTSON Date: 08/29/93 5:18p
Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE
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JR>prices of caddies you should be aware that there are copies of the licensed
JR>caddies out there... easily recognized by several facets 1) The clear lid
JR>steel shutter and the USA version is aluminum. The copies will jam in your c
JR>player or they will cause your spin motor to suffer from excessive drag. The
JR>better cd players such as SONY or TOSHIBA will spit these out as they slow d
JR>the motor from being uneven and causing the coupler to drag, I don't know wh
JR>happens in the TEXEL (UAC) drive but I wouldn't want ot find out. So in clos
The simple way to make sure you don't get stuck with bad caddies is to
ONLY BUY A CADDYLESS DRIVE. No reason to have to keep buying those
stupid caddies forever!
CADDIES.... JUST SAY NO!
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2583
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/29/93 5:20p
Subj: US national phonedisc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> I am looking for the above named disc sets. NOT PROPHONE!
BO>>> Does anyone sell or have info on these?
BO>Ron, " Phone Disk USA " !! Comes in business or residental versions.
What, if anything, is the advantage of PhoneDisk USA over ProPhone (I
have the 3-disc prophone set)?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2584
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 08/31/93 8:54p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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DD>I'm new to CD-ROM's and was wondering what kind I should get. I'm only 15
DD>and on a limited budget. If anyone has info on any CD-ROM which would be un
DD>say $700, and has the best sound and graphics for that price, please tell me
The best deal is the Mitsumi for about $200. Add some kind of sound
card, I get SoundBlaster 2.0-compatible clones (not the best but a great
value) for about $50, or a little more with a pair of speakers.
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 2585
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/03/93 7:37a
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP>Hmmm... I already called them; they promised to mail me a copy. I
GP>guess I'll find out. Do you recall what kinds of fonts were included
GP>I wonder if they are ones that I don't have already (Too Many Typefon
GP>CD-ROM).
Most probably you don't miss those fonts then. None of them looks
anything spectacular to me. Some names of the TT-fonts: Calisto,
Headline, Photina Ultra Bold etc. Letraset type 1 fonts included are not
better either.
GP>TT>fonts. All the PC-Magazine utilities included are ages old (newer
GP>TT>versions do exist!) and for example there is version 93 (I think)
GP>TT>McAfees Scan when the current version is 107! All the other stuff
GP>Golly, version 93 isn't worth much today, that's for sure.
The magazine itself had lots of nice articles (although a little bit too
English to my taste) but giving this kind of crap as a "valuable free
present" is simply ridiculous. But then, we should remember that such a
thing as free lunch does not exist. "Over 170 Mb of free software, tons
of utilities, free fonts and full working models" that's how the
PC-Magazine in question describes the CD included. ROTFL
GP>Does one _have_ to use the silly and obnoxious installation procedure
GP>or can you just try the programs on the disc as they are?
Some of them you can try, yes. But finding the stuff from that jungle of
subdirectories is not an easy task.
GP>They promised to send me one. But thanks for the offer anyhow! :-)
Don't be disappointed when you see it. At least it will be useful as
a nice colourful coaster.
.
.
.
GP>The simple way to make sure you don't get stuck with bad caddies is t
GP>ONLY BUY A CADDYLESS DRIVE. No reason to have to keep buying those
GP>stupid caddies forever!
GP>
GP> CADDIES.... JUST SAY NO!
Campaigning against caddies again? ;-) This is a matter of taste of
course but I think that CD:s with caddies are something indespensable.
CD-disks are not so fault tolerant after all. I do need regularly 3-4
CD:s and have to switch between them often while I am working. Caddies
cut unnecessary extra hassle of this process and I can freely keep those
CD:s among all the stuff on my slightly over-crowded desk without
needing to worry about damaging the disks. Of course this arrangement
requires that you have an own caddy for each CD or at least for most
frequently used ones.
Also in a CD-ROM drive with a tray sliding in and out there are
necessarily some extra very delicate precision components forming a
potential source of troubles when the drive gets older and worn whereas
drives with caddies are built mostly in very basic and sturdy way and
can take pretty rough handling without complaining. The only
disadvantage of caddies is that they cost quite a lot but compared to
the price of a CD-disk it is after all almost acceptable.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 2586
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 9:37a
Subj: Price List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please mail me your list. Thanks
B.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls
Ont. Canada
K7A 4S7
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 2587
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:06a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All!
I have a few questions that I would like to ask about CD-ROM systems.
1). What is the difference between multi-session and single-session?
2). Is there any problem hooking up a SCSI compatable CD-ROM system
to a IDE type computer?
3). Does anyone have a good recommendation on a CD-ROM system\bundle?
4). What should be considered the minimum access times to look for?
5). Anything else you care to mention that would be helpful? Your
.02 matters. <G>
TFTI!
-=Dave=-
... OFFLINE 1.50 "TSR - [T]rashes [S]ystem [R]andomly"
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2588
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 1:07a
Subj: A FEW CD'S . . . . . Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00
5-Star Premium Windows........27.00 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00
7th Guest.....................45.00 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......56.00
9000 Sounds (New!)............30.50 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00 Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
American Business Phonebk 93..39.00 MIDI Music Shop...............27.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: ED MELO Number: 2589
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 10:13a
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in getting a CD catalog. Please send it to:
Ed Melo
9 Lexington Manor
Glenmoore, PA 19343
Also, what are the shipping charges?
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2590
To: BRUCE CLAUNCH Date: 09/04/93 10:34p
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BC> HELP!!
BC>
BC>I just brought myself a new MB 386sx40mhz , when I installed everything but
BC>NEC scsi board everything works fine
BC>but as soon as I put in the scsi sometimes power will not come on
BC>the computer and when it does come on it locksup and the only way out is to
the fact that you have a new MB has nothing to do with the problem. It
would seem that the LOCATIION of the card may be the actual problem
First, try another slot, making sure that the card is not near/pushing on
any other chip on the MB. You may be touching a chip, or something
that is "shorting" the power
** Good luck **
_OR_ your MB is not well grounded. Tighten all the screws mounts
and recheck everything AGAIN !!
* KingQWK 1.05 * Hardware: The part you kick, and throw.
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2591
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 10:35p
Subj: cdrom -Toshiba 3101 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just bought a newer faster cdrom... So...I have the following for sale
IBM / Toshiba Internal CD-ROM #3101 1/2Ht SCSI $199
150K Transfer Rate 250ms
These were recently replaced by the current double spin 3401's
RJ Kulman 718 968 9167
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2592
To: BARRY MEAD Date: 09/04/93 10:38p
Subj: Sony 535 speedup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BM>After Talking to Sony and Trantor Systems (formerly Adaptek) I was told
the other way around...Adaptec is TRANTOR
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From: BILL GEE Number: 2593
To: DAN WALDRON Date: 09/06/93 9:19a
Subj: Novell Netware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW>Hi All,
DW>I am familiar with the hardware side of LANs, and Netware Lite and
DW>Lantastic, but don't know where to start when it comes to Netware. Can
DW>anybody recommend any good "laymans" guides to learning a bit about it?
Can't help you on this one. Stateside, there are many tonnes of Netware
books. I imagine that some of them have made there way down under...
DW>Am I correct in assuming that Netware requires a dedicated server? How
DW>is DOS affected by Netware running? Any installations that I have
DW>participated in have only involved thin-ether, but I'd be interested in
DW>knowing the advantages (apart from trunk length) that thick ethernet
DW>provides.
Netware 3.x and 4.x require dedicated servers. Netware 2.2 can still be run
in non-dedicated mode, but I do not recommend it. There are too many
problems just waiting to bite, such as trying to get Windows to run in
Enhanced mode. On a dedicated server, 2.2 is very stable. I would
recommend that you get 3.11 if you can afford it since the setup and
configuration are MUCH easier. You really only appreciate the difference
when you have to put a different network card in the server.
Remember that in most systems the server need only have the largest hard
drive. I have run Netware 3 on a 386sx-16 server with 486 workstations and
had no difficulty with slow response. The faster processors are really only
necessary if you are going to run server processes like SQL servers.
As for thick ether, it offers three things: 1) Longer trunk runs, 2) Better
rejection of interference, and 3) Much higher prices.
Bill Gee
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2594
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 09/06/93 2:43p
Subj: CD ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
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KH> MW> DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM?
KH> JB>
KH> JB> OS/2
KH>
KH> If he was being serious, you most certainly weren't :) OS/2 while the best
KH> multitasker and with many a function caches the CDROMS but not that well.
KH> In fact not many programs cache CD-ROMS well unless you are fortunate
enough
KH> to have a 1 Gigabyte PC and you use 660megs for a CD-ROM cache! Just that
KH> most systems won't benefit from a CD-ROM cache.
Sure I was......I have run machines with many different so called DOS
based caches installed.........bit for bit, byte for byte,...OS/2's throughput
is faster.
Across the room, a Clone 486/50 with 32MB RAM, DOS 5.0, Hypercache,
and and 3 IBM CDROM's (Made by Toshiba) connected to a 1542b.
Sitting here as I type,,,, A PS/2 9595OMT, 486/50, 32MB RAM, OS/2 2.1 and 14
IBM CDROM's (Made by Toshiba)....Care to take a guess at which
one is faster, even accessing multiple CDROM's including throughput to the
network?
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2595
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 09/06/93 3:33p
Subj: Text Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
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KH> Hello,
KH>
KH> Am looking for a TEXT ONLY Encyclopedia that is fairly current. Can anyone
KH> recommend one from experience? Want to put it up as a door on a BBS so I
KH> don't want pictures. I have heard of them in the past but now with
KH> multi-media the "in" thing they are somewhat of a dinosaur. Any
KH> suggestions?
KH>
Toolworks Reference Library is Text only, but I am not sure how
you could get past their copyright.
I had one on line for sometime, and was advised to take it off-line
after our attorney read the copyright and license info....
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2596
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/06/93 3:39p
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TS> If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your taglines
TS> Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell you
TS> about OUR politics:)
Here,
Have a few on me....
*Al Gore never met a Spending Bill he didn't vote for.
First, you put the lawyers up against a wall. . .
"Clinton" the chia-pet of chief executives everywhere.
They test jet engines by firing Arkansas poultry into them.
Error opening CLINTON.LIE Cannot find TRAITOR2.USA
If outlaws were gunned, then.....no more outlaws!!
Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who smoked pot!
Shhhhh...Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting Spotted Owls...
Impeach CLINTON and her Husband!
AIDS is a virus; Clinton is a punishment from God.
Liberals are of some use, if only to set a bad example!
Will the real President PLEASE get back in the White House!
Bill Clinton - A mandate in his own mind.
Liberal Tactic #2: When caught lying, go into hysterics
Error loading CLINTON.LIE. Unable to recover COUNTRY.USA.
CLINTON (n) see also gay loving, draft dodging, pot smoking, womanizer
Never, ever trust a draft dodger - Rush Limbaugh
Bill Clinton: the Milli Vanilli of presidents
Clinton: #1 reason to require truth in political ads
I am Clinton of BORG. We only assimilate those making $30K or more
I have the heart of a liberal... in a jar on my desk!
If it's not cruel and unusual, it's not punishment.
"How does Al Gore spell potato? T-A-T-E-R"--R. Limbaugh
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2597
To: RONALD LEON Date: 09/06/93 4:23p
Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE
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RL> Al Koller beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
RL>
RL> AK>Hi Ron. The OS/2 update package is available to anyone with a previou
RL> AK>version of OS/2 OR any prior DOS....
RL>
RL> IBM says otherwise.
Here is the real deal for the IBM OS/2 2.1 Upgrade.
To receive the rebate YOU must provide proof of purchase of 2.0
not limited to,,, Reciept, Proof of License, etc...
ANYONE, may upgrade to 2.1 from any version at the upgrade price.
This includes, OS/2 1.X, 2.X or DOS.
JD Brown
Member
IBM'S Developer Assistance Program
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2598
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/06/93 8:20p
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LR> LR> The best network solution I have found for
LR> LR> CD-ROM drives is a CD-ROM
LR> LR> network called CD-SHARE.
LR>
LR> JB> The best network solution I have found for multiple CDROMS, is
LR> JB> OS/2 2.1 and Lan Server 3.0.
LR>
LR>
LR> That's true. I should have said the best peer-peer DOS solution.
LR>
LR> Les
OS/2, Lan 3.0, and the DOS Requester.....
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From: STEVE PROCTOR Number: 2599
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 4:04p
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
I am interested in purchasing it.
Steve
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2600
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:34p
Subj: BB#1 Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
My deal fell under so I still have BB#1 for sale or trade. In need of 386
mother board, simms, cd player, tape backup or some cd's. Lets make a deal as
everyone knows this cd is hot.
Pat
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2601
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/06/93 5:24p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
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Dave Reed beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
DR> RL>> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Social
DR> RL>> Takeover!
DR>
DR> TS> Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
DR> TS> If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your t
DR> TS> Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell
DR> TS> about OUR politics:)
DR>It's JUST a tagline! Besides, when some socialist a**hole can get ele
DR>40-some% of the popular vote, against the will of the majority of our
DR>there's going to be a LOT of angry people! At least allow them to ven
DR>little steam in a harmless tagline.
DR>
DR>Thanks for your understanding. We Americans are in the middle of a cr
DR>here.
Amen Brother!
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From: ANDY STEERE Number: 2602
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/04/93 12:45a
Subj: Re: PANASONIC Refer: NONE
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>The spex I have for the Panasonic CR562B state 320ms *AVERAGE* access
>in single speed mode and 450ms *AVERAGE* access in double speed mode...
>The drive does, however seem to be able to perofrm better than these
>specifications.
I am reading the CR-562-B instruction manual as I type:
Access Time:
Random access time *3 (NV mode *1) 380ms typical
Random access time (DV mode *2) 320ms typical
Fullstroke access time *4 (NV mode) 660ms typical
Fullstroke access time (DV mode) 640ms typical
Notes:
*1 - NV mode: Normal Velocity mode ("SingleSpeed")
*2 - DV mode: Double Velocity mode ("DoubleSpeed")
*3 - Random access time: AVERAGE of Data read over the whole
area from 00 min. 02 sec. 00 block to
59 min. 58 sec. 74 block more than 2000
times including latency and layered
error correction time.
*4 - Fullstroke access time: From 00 min. 02. sec. 00 block to 59
min. 58 sec. 74 block including latency
and layered error correction time.
In other words... DoubleSpeed=320ms(avg), SingleSpeed=380ms(avg). This
may explain why there is some confusion about the CR-562-B and the 380ms
figure. When operated in DV mode (not sure when the SingleSpeed mode is
ever used), this is a 320ms drive.
The manual also lists the MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure) at 25,000 POH
(power on hours?). Don't know how this compares to other drives.
Andy Steere
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2603
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/05/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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LR> BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer
DB> DMR604X Bare -$1199.
DB> Thanks for the input.
LR> DB> they fit in a 5.25 in slot
LR> You're kidding, right? No, they don't fit in a
DB> 5.25" FH drive bay. LR>Heck, the CARTRIDGES hardly fit in a 5.25" slot,
let alone
DB> The reason I asked if they would fit in a 5.25 slot was the ad for
DB> "bare" drives. I wondered what they were meant for if not an internal
DB> drive slot. I still wonder.
"Bare" does not mean without a case or power supply. It means without
a controller or software (or at least not much software: the lesat under which
the drive can run.
Les
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 2604
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:45p
Subj: Audi CD's, Where to buy? Refer: NONE
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Anybody know where I can buy MUSIC CD's wholesale for re-selling?
Thanks,
Adrian Salas
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 2605
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/07/93 3:50a
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RL> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist
RL>Takeover!
TS>(Sorry Bob for being off-topic)
TS>Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
TS>Do you have elections in your country?
TS>Do you know that people living in other countries have NO interest
TS>in your domestic politics?
TS>Do you know that many people reckon ALL politics is s**t?
TS>Do you know that this is the CDROM echo?
TS>If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your taglines
TS>Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell you
TS>about OUR politics:)
Well, considering he's in Tampa.. He had better say yes to the first one..
l8r,
Scott
TS>
TS>
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2606
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/06/93 9:53a
Subj: Re: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
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DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Yes it is with complete FILES.BBS text files support. Most files have
File_id.diz in them as well. Perfect for a BBS.
Ken Harvey
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From: PATRICK SIGLIN Number: 2607
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/07/93 2:59p
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: NONE
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From: DANNY BANISTER Number: 2608
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/06/93 3:54p
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>At the beginning of this year I obtained a comms/fax modem made by a company
>called Dallas Fax, in Texas.
>It is an internal V.42bis model 9696V.
>It came with Quick Link 2 software ( which is a combined comms/fax program )
>I have considerable difficulty getting this modem to operate satisfactorily.
>I have tried other software, but with limited success.
>I have tried to contact the makers in Dallas, but have been informed by the
>phone company operator that they have moved, and cannot be traced.
>Does anyone know of the location of this company, or the location of an
>agent of Dallas Fax ??
>Does anyone have experience of using this make of modem ??
>If so, would you let me have your voice line number
Sorry to tell you, but they went out of business.
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 2609
To: MIKE ZAREK Date: 09/06/93 6:03a
Subj: Re: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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In a message of <04 Sep 93 19:36:00>, Mike Zarek (1:363/179) writes:
>In other words, it's *moral* if white, Republican Christian folks do it, and
immoral for everyone else. ^^^^^^^^^^I think you forgot this
<g>
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2610
To: PAUL SZUDZIK Date: 09/05/93 10:14p
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PS>DB> Every listing I have checked is inaccurate in
PS>DB> at least one area. My residential number is 4 years out of date, my
PS>Thanks I was going to buy this this weekend at the Shelby, NC HamFest.
PS> Was this the full blown 7 ( or 8 ) disk set, or was this the 3 Disk Set?
It is the seven disk set.
For what it's worth, you are listed at 1204 Cxixxxixx Cixxxx
Raleigh, NC 27615
The phone number given matches the one information has for you.
Please drop a line if this is accurate, if so it will be the first one.
Honest. I am keeping track, because I told the company I would be
informing folks about their product. I have to keep track in case
they try to make a stink. So far, I can document every inaccuracy
I have found.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2611
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/07/93 12:41a
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>> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Yes it is Don and in stock for $25.
If your interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be glad to help.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2612
To: ALEXANDER ANDREYEV Date: 09/07/93 12:41a
Subj: Re: Wanted: cheap used CDROM disks.... Refer: NONE
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>> Hello dear All!
>> Big troubles in Russia now: I have only one CDROM disk!
>> I need several subjs
>> Topic: MS DOS/WINDOWS/UNIX/programming, database, info, books,
>> music.
Not a problem Alexander, we have several cd's to select from. So, please
feel free to drop us a line via the fidonet address below and we'll be
happy to assist you further.
BTW: We have several customers looking for copies of Russian DOS, might
be possiable to work out some sort of trade.
Boris Osadciw
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2613
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/06/93 7:22p
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Les!
On 09-04-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to Rowan Evans...
LR> RE> cheaper for you to get
LR> LR> RE> caddies than it is for the average user....
LR> LR> Perhaps. Margins are pretty slim on that sort of thing.
LR>
LR> RE> Current Aussie prices (retail, not special deals, etc)
LR> RE> for a single caddy is around $A15.00 to $A20.00. This is
LR> RE> the price if you walk into any
LR> RE> computer store that stocks them and ask to buy a caddy.....
LR>
LR> Here in the U.S. at least, one can also walk to the shelf of that
LR> self same computer store and buy a box of 1.44M floppies
LR> for the wonderful price of US$15. Only a fool (or someone
LR> in an emergency) buys commodity items at that sort of
LR> place. Caddies can be easily gotten off the shelf in
LR> several of our local discount warehouses for US$4 in packs
LR> of ten.
Well, we don't really have the same type of large discount stores that
you have in the states....
And I'd class CD-ROM caddies in a slightly different category to that
of diskettes.... diskettes are consumables, once you've written stuff
to them, unless you want to delete the data, the diskette is unusable....
Caddies, OTOH, are re-usable, as all you have to do is take the CD-ROM
out and replace it....
LR> RE> I believe that the viewpoint is a realistic one.... Especially
LR> RE> when you talk to a user that says that he will have 1500 odd
LR> RE> machines with CD-ROM drives in them... Having 2 or 3 CD-ROMs in
LR> RE> separate caddies adds (at best $A15.00 - cheapest price I've
LR> RE> seen for caddies is $A5.00) then
LR> RE> multiply this by 1500, comes to $A22,500.00 additional.... the
LR> RE> worst case makes this figure around $A70,000.00..... these are not
LR> RE> insubstantial amounts to do what you recommend....
LR>
LR> Neither is the cost of replacing 200 or so CD-ROM
LR> titles a year due to damage. Furthermore, this represents
LR> a capital expenditure, always easier to justify than an
LR> operating expense (which replacing damaged goods would be).
Well, the plan with these machines is to run training courses on them off a
CD_ROM, the courses will be written in-house, and updated quarterly....
The damage aspect is thus reduced.....
The other point with this project is that production costs (excluding the
intellectual properties thereon) of 1,500 odd CD-ROMs is approximately
$A20.00. You are saying that to protect a $20.00 CD-ROM, used for 3 to
6 months, an investment of 25% of the cost (at least) of the ROM should
be made??
LR> In addition, the time saved in not having to have several
LR> hundred employees fiddle with caddy-less units can be
LR> substantial.
The time taken to find a CD-ROM in an unlabelled caddy would be about the
same as the time to take a CD-ROM out of a clearly labelled jewel case!
LR> RE> And we then come back to the fact that show an "average" user a
LR> RE> CD-ROM drive with a caddy and a CD-ROM drive without a caddy
LR> RE> and the user will, 9 times out of 10 select the non-caddy drive.....
LR>
LR> This is supposed to impress me? The one COMMODITY
LR> that is never in short supply is ignorance.
Why is it ignorance to select a product that is *VERY* close in operation
to the user's home Audio CD player??
The cheapest double-speed SCSI CD-ROM I have seen is the NEC CDR-55, and
it is in no way close to what people are used to (open flimsy door,
insert caddy, close door... to eject push *FIRMLY* on the manual eject
button)....
Whereas the Panasonic is cheaper and has none of these problems!
LR> RE> My own personal loathing for caddies dates back to 1989 and a
LR> RE> CD-ROM drive (I think it was a Philips) with a "claw" type
LR> RE> caddy that, although
LR> RE> it looked universal was a "this side up" type caddy.... The
LR> RE> trauma that
LR> RE> this drive inflicted was such that I vowed *NEVER* to buy a
LR> RE> CD-ROM drive with a caddy....
LR>
LR> One poor implementation (or perhaps just a bad
LR> unit) does not an engineering mistake make.
The caddy in this instance was *EXTREMELY POOR* engineering!
LR> The fact that
LR> you had a bad CD-ROM in no way reflects on the performance
LR> of CD-ROM's or any associated equipment.
And the fact that a CD-ROM drive has a tray doesn't affect its performance!
We basically have a disagreement here in philosophy in that you like
caddies and I would prefer a drive without (the current crop of
caddy drives aren't tooooo bad).....
I am reminded of a recent review in an Australian magazine of CD-ROM drives.
In this review, there were caddy type drives *WITHOUT* the dust door of
most of the modern caddy CD-ROm drives... but the reviwer singled out the
SONY CDU-31A, the only TRAY drive reviewed as being susceptible to dust!
The Sony tray is a close fit, and the only disadvantage is that it doesn't
retract withing a certain time if you don't insert a CD-ROM.... the
Panasonic does this....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2614
To: MATT CHAPMAN Date: 09/06/93 7:33p
Subj: Non MM CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Hi Matt!
On 09-03-93 Matt Chapman wrote to All...
MC> Can anyone point out a CD-ROM drive (ide) that is suited for non
MC> multimedia uses.
MC> ie: does not require a sound card (such as the prop SB), reasonably
MC> cheap, (available in Australia).
Haunt your local dealer for a Panasonic CR562B drive... If you have an
Osborne dealer handy, ask him for the CD200 kit (but check that you get
the CR562B drive with it, as I am told that they still have the older
CR52x drive and will sell this to home users)....
This drive is available with an 8-bit paddle card for around $450.00....
AND you get the chance, should you change your mind later, to attach it
to a SoundBlaster Pro/16/16 ASP card!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2615
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/06/93 7:38p
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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Hi David!
On 09-04-93 David Winger wrote to Tony Stott...
DW> TS> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
DW> TS> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
DW> TS>
DW> TS> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to produce
DW> TS> your own one-off cdrom disks
DW> A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
DW> ^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
Ummm, no..... WORM drives use a different media to CD-R (CD-ROM Recordable)
drives.... WORM has, I believe, a magnetic component to what it does, as
well as a different format to CD-R.
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2616
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/06/93 7:58p
Subj: Drive speed Refer: NONE
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Hi Colin!
On 09-04-93 Colin Bell wrote to All...
CB> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my
CB> BBS. I don't 4 really want to spend too much on
CB> the drive but I have to be sure that it
CB> will be able to keep up with people downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS
CB> & the serial port is locked at 19200 bps. I noticed that the NEC drives
CB> that the local store carries (the cheaper ones) have 500ms access speed.
CB> Is that fast enough to keep up with my modem. My HD's are all quantums
CB> that are about 15ms so I thought 500ms was a BIG difference. I will
CB> later be getting a multispin cdrom for my personal machine so don't
CB> really care if the BBS one can't do photo-cd's or whatever.
Shouldn't be a problem... I have noticed a lot of msgs from the US where
sysops are using slow Mutsumi drives.... Once the CD-ROM has done its seek,
then the data flows from there.... Its not as though the CD-ROM has to
continually seek back to the directory...
CB> What speed is the Pioneer DRM-600A ?? coz I notice a few sysops use that.
CB> How does the Pioneer drive handle it if 2 people are online & they try
CB> & access files on different disks at the same time? 8) I presume it is
CB> 1 mechanism with a carousel or is it 6 mechanisms & able to access each
CB> at the same time.
Larry Lewis at Prophet TBBS runs three of these drives.... the files
are copied to a scratch area on a HDD before download commences...
These drives use a cartridge mechanism.....
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: MARTIN TAYLOR Number: 2617
To: DEAN MACKIN Date: 08/26/93 11:07p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Dean.
> Have you or anyone else had any problems with the CDrom drive locking up
> on the SB16ASP Card.
No. To date the CD and CD-16 have performed OK. However, that's no guarentee
that they won't play up.
Cheers,
Martin
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From: GRANT BEATTIE Number: 2618
To: ERIC HO Date: 09/01/93 9:01p
Subj: Dr. CD-ROM shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric:
I'm intested in getting a shareware CD that can be used with REMOTE ACCESS
easily (without modification). do you know of any ones that have an emphasis
on GIF files or completely filled with GIF's? That'd be great.
Seeya Round
Grant
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From: JOHNM OSBORNE Number: 2619
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 9:11a
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I understand that Media Vision are planning to release a sound card using
"sampled sounds" rather than FM synthesised sounds. My experience with midi
equipment suggests this board will have far superior sound.
Does any one out htere know more about this new board?
When will it be released?
What will be the price relative to a standard PAS16?
Will a PAS16 be upgradeable or will a new board be required?
Will this new board make Yamaha based boards "old hat"?
Do Media Visions' competitors have a response?
I would be intersted to hear the "experts" response.
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* Origin: Melb. PC User Group BBS. - 61-3-699-6788 (3:632/309)
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From: DAVID KOLLE Number: 2620
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 7:37p
Subj: Snail Mail CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings from OZ ...... Boris,
The Snail Mail parcel of CD's arrived on my doorstep on the 1st of September
and I noticed that your post mark was the 30th of August !!!
Now that is sooommmee ffaaasstt snail !!!!
Thank you for your excellent service .... Kind regards
David
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* Origin: Melb. PC User Group BBS. - 61-3-699-6788 (3:632/309)
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2621
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/05/93 8:53a
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day David, In a message on <Sep 04>, you said :
DW> On 09-03-93 Tony Stott wrote to David Winger...
DW>
TS>> On 08-31-93, David Winger elucidated to Sunny Leung:
TS>>
TS>> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
TS>> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
TS>>
TS>> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to
TS>> produce your own one-off cdrom disks
DW> A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
DW> ^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
A worm drive is not the same as CDROM
The media used is different to the cdrom and therefore cannot be used in a
cdrom drive.
The Writable CDROM may be able to Write Once and Read Many but is not WORM ,
which is a different size disk.
TS>> Guess what? WRONG AGAIN! You are describing floptical
TS>> technology, magneto optical disks do not work that way,
TS>> neither do cdroms.
DW>
DW> Sorry, Right again!
DW> I never said CD-ROMS work that way. Read the message again.
DW> Flopticals and Magneto Optical Disks are supposed to be the
DW> same thing.
NO not true
DW> THE SYSGEN FLOPTICAL
DW> A normal floppy drive just steps the heads across
DW> the disk in preset increments. At the same time
DW>
DW> It should also be noted that floptical drives can
DW> read standard 1.44 meg and 720k 3.5" floppy disks.
DW>
You have described a floptical.
The Magneto Optical is a totally different thing and not in any way related to
the floptical which is only available in 20MB and 128MB flavours. The Magneto
optical is in the 500MB+ range. The Media used is also totally different .Uses
the laser to free up an element which can be changed magnetically.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2622
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/05/93 9:15a
Subj: CD authoring Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep 04 >, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 writes:
RE>
RE> Costs are around $A1,800.00 for the glass master and then
RE> $1.85 or so per CD-ROM in lots of 1,000 (they'll do
RE> smaller lots at higher prices!)
RE>
RE> This works out to around $A20.00 per CD-ROM for 1,000
Rowan
I hope you are not the accountant for the bank you work for. <G>
According to my calculations 1000 X $1.85 = $1850
1800 + 1850 = $3650
3650 /1000 = $3.65 per disc
Where did the $20 come from
Laurie
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2623
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 9:40p
Subj: Cd size? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi.
This is all new to me....
I am looking to buy a cd rom drive. The one I am looking at uses a max
of 680 mb disks, is this ok or should I go for something bigger?
What is the average CD GAME size?
The unit is selling for A$399 and comes with sofware drivers for use with
Windows and plays music CD's.
The guy told me that it's access time is 350ms and is Kodak Photo CD
compatible..(Whatever that is.)
All double dutch to me!
Thanks.
TM. 8-)
... This tagline is made just for All
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2624
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/04/93 9:58p
Subj: Address? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris.
Can you give me an postal address so I can get a catalogue?
TM.
... Z80 Programmers? Where?
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* Origin: Wild Magic BBS Hervey Bay Qld (3:640/382)
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2625
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/04/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: my new cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Leslie Rhorer to Lisa Hutter <=-
LH> Hi All,
LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to
LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's
LH> while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the only reason I
LH> made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature.
LH> Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new
LH> "toy"?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A very good question......
LR> Dump Windows and get OS/2.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A bloody stupid answer! It did not offer anything of worth.
An answer to this would have been good for me and many others.
TM.
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
--- EzyQwk V1.02
* Origin: Wild Magic BBS Hervey Bay Qld (3:640/382)
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2626
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/04/93 11:23p
Subj: Re: oz pricing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Tony Stott to Mike Avila <=-
MA>I feel for you people there. Buying CD equipment
MA>and discs (and all computer equipment?) must really set you back.
TS> Don't feel too bad Mike, in general we get paid enough Oz dollars to
TS> afford the goodies, and at the same time we get to live in the best
TS> country! (big grin)
I'll second that.
Yo Tony, Howzit going?
TM.
... This BBS has achieved Air superiority.
--- EzyQwk V1.02
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 2627
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/05/93 8:16p
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Sean,
You were saying ...
ST> I am running the 7th Guest on a CR-562-B and a Sound Blaster 16.
ST> The game runs fine BUT the music is so loud I can barely hear the
ST> characters talking in the game. Does anyone else have this problem ?
ST> Could it be due to the fact that the game is using a Sound Blaster Pro
ST> OPL/3 driver that is not entirely compatible with the SB16.
I've got a SB16 ASP connected to a CR521 - wanted a CR562, but ran out of
money :-(. When running T7G I've got the loud music, soft speech problem too.
What you do is use the SB16SET mixer before loading T7G (in your Autoexec.bat
or in DOS). Push the VOC level up, and set the MIDI level lower. Then you
shouldn't have a problem with music and sound.
Regards, Sunny.
... VifUE?!? WE dON't gOt NO tiNkiNg vifUE!!!
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 2628
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 11:39a
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a Mono 8 bit
SB card?
The CD-ROM drive is working fine, but I want to enable the sound through my
old mono SB card (Ver 2). Do I connect the CD-ROM drive to it's controller
card with the 4 wire cable, and then plug a connecter from the external red
and white jacks on the controller card to the line-in on the SB card?
Alan...
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2629
To: BRAD ORR Date: 09/06/93 9:32a
Subj: Cd Rom Drive Sound Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-31-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Brad Orr said
to All:-
BO>Hya.
BO>
BO>I have a question about my CDROM drive. I have a Texel DM3401
BO>( an internal double speed drive) and there is a headphone jack
BO>on the front of the drive that I have _never_ been able to get sound
BO>from using music cd's. What must I do to hear sound from this jack?
Unfortunately earlier versions of the Texel drives did not function
properly as regards sound through the headphone jack (as advised to me by
the Australian importers late in '92). Your only recourse is to try and
get some kind of trade through your dealer. Sorry I can't give cheerier
news :(
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■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Hello, I'm part number: ****************
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2630
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/06/93 9:32a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-01-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Don Bosman
said to Leslie Rhorer:-
DDB>The reason I asked if they would fit in a 5.25 slot was the ad for
DB>"bare" drives. I wondered what they were meant for if not an internal
DB>drive slot. I still wonder.
A bare drive doesn't come with an interface card (if you already have a
SCSI interface, you can daisy chain up to 7 SCSI drives/devices)
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■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Your computer said WHAT????!!!
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2631
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/06/93 9:32a
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
On 08-31-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Bob Hall said
to All:-
BH>This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads
BH>any form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim
BH>Helton. Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also,
Bob, I have not heard of the cdromsale echo making it to Australia, so if
you remove ads from this echo, the Australian contingent will be cut off
from access to the many bargains found in the 10-line adverts. The problem
is that whoever gets the feed from USA to Zone 3 would be reluctant to
spring for a commercial echo, given Fidonet's sensitivity to business use
of conferences.
On the other hand, if we in Zone 3 can get the cdromsale echo, I would be
happy to read both, and would also support your echo being "purified" by
the removal of adverts.
To other Zone 3 readers... any takers for getting the cdromsale echo
brought in?
---
■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ All the world's a stage... Now it's intermission!
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From: GREG MCDONELL Number: 2632
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/06/93 10:45a
Subj: CD PHOTOS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Whilst on a recent visit to Earth Mike Shannon spake thusly to Greg Mcdonell
GM>Mike, I was wondering about this Kodak Photo CD ... is it editing
GM>tools, a database utility or what?? I may need it if Digital Cameras
GM>ever reduce in price down to my price range 8-)
MS> It is software to enable you to view, edit, and otherwise have fun
MS> with photographic images on the new Kodak Photo CD's. BTW, you don't
MS> need a digital camera to enjoy Photo CD technology, just a plain ol'
Thanks for the info. My theory on the digital camera is that it could
be used to take 20 or 30 shots where otherwise you might take 2 or 3
shots, then review and save just the best ones (like the pros)
without the cost of wasted film, and therefore have a selected
database of photos on CD.
I believe that once the hardware is cheap enough, this facility will
sell _a lot_ of digital cameras, and by extension, CDROMs.
I am assuming the cameras have re-writable chip memory for at least
20 photos, that can be transferred to disk or CD.
BTW, do you have a CD called "Global Explorer" .. I think it is
a "zoom to street level" global map. If you know it, does it have
decent quality photo-reproduction maps and panning, and is it
truly global (I'm in Australia)?
Best Regards, Greg
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From: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Number: 2633
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 7:46a
Subj: SB16ASP+CD in Win Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone had problems with running the SB16-ASP in windows?... I cannot get
the sound... al I hear is the begining of the tune and then silence....
I have done everything posible!!...
Also.. does anyone know how to install Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe CD-ROM?
thanks.. Vz.
--- GEcho 1.00/gamma+
* Origin: CLASSIC Rock - DWarz Support, Oz +61-2-988-3076 (3:711/425)
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From: SCOTT CONDER Number: 2634
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 10:26p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; Sound Board Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm thinking of buying one of the inexpensive Mitsumi CD ROM drives I've seen
advertised and, despite having read several articles, I'm confused as to what a
person needs in the way of interface hardware to use such a drive. If anyone
knows about this stuff, leave me a message about the following questions:
1) Can I access audio CD's with only the interface card that comes with the
drive?
2) Is the supplied interface card all I need to access such ROM's as
encyclopedias, etc., or will I need a sound card? In particular, will I have
to have a sound board to access sound files and graphics in an encyclopedia?
3) If I get a sound card, and I want 16-bit audio with editing capability, what
is the way to go?
4) If I get a sound card with a SCSI port built in, will the SCSI port work
with the Mitsumi drive and allow me to get rid of the drive's dedicated IF?
This is a somewhat confusing area for a novice. I'd appreciate any input.
Thanks.
Scott
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2635
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/06/93 9:57a
Subj: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> In a message to NEIL BERGMAN <09-02-93 23:21> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
> IA>> > SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
> IA>> YES
> No-No-No-No-No-No-No---Read the back of the cover--This is one company
> who I feel will be very aggressive with litigation if their scans are put
> on the BBS--This disc *IS NOT* BBS acceptable, and should not be used as
> such.
Seems like both of your disk have legal problems and there is an apperent piss
contest. I am sorry but you guys need to handle your own problems. I was only
helping to another echo participant.
-= IA =-
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* Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116)
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From: ROBERT RAWLINGS Number: 2636
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 5:18p
Subj: Magnavox (Phillips) CDD461 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know where I can locate a driver I can use to allow
OS2 to recognize this CD......Thanks
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2637
To: BRAD LEWIS Date: 09/06/93 5:10p
Subj: Re: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C noway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> told that there are 2 types of drives and 2 formats for writing to CD's .
> THey told me I can only read CD's that have a maximum of 540 megs approx.
> while the newer drives can read cd's with up to 680 megs. Now I am
> wondering what drive to buy next and how long before something comes out
> it can't read.
Hi Brad,
Mod 1 and Mod 2 are the tech specs they are talking about. Panasonic 521
(Creative Labs) drive doesn't confirm Mod 2. Therefor you may have problems
with the disks are larger that 63 min. recording time. Panasonic 522B drive
will correct this problem, if you upgrade your drive. Also 562 (double spin)
will cure your problem. If you need more help or techical info give me a call
at 206-472-1400. TTYL
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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* Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116)
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 2638
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/06/93 5:17a
Subj: Re: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 04 Sep 93 17:00:00, I heard Don Pryor shout to All:
DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
DP>
DP> Don
Yes, It is I run it on my BBS and I was really happy with the way it popped in
and setup in a snap.
.....|<evin
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From: CHARLES HARPER Number: 2639
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 09/06/93 6:17a
Subj: Re: BBS CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> How do you load a CD program for a BBS, a CD like Phoniex? Do you have
> to load all the files and type in descriptions manually, or is there
> something on the CDs that automatically loads it to the BBS, making
> directories and things like that?? PLEASE help me, I would like to get it
> running on my BBS as soon as possilbe, thanks!
Make a Dir on your hard drive and name it anything you want too.
Ie. Games, Comm and etc. Change to the Phoneix Cdrom List Directory and
copy the *lis file(s) to directory on hard drive. Then Tell your BBS
software in the Config Setup the name of the Directory on the hard drive
and sub directory on the Phoneix CDROM drive. Then add the files acording
to however you do it with the BBS software or utilities for your BBS.
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2640
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 2:43p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2641
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 2:43p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in these great Prices...
Here is my address:
****************************************
C E Bourguignon
293, North St #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
Canada
***************
Let me know when you get this message!!!
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2642
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 2:45p
Subj: Catalogs wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I love CD software and if some of you out there have ad CDs for sale,
leave me a note and I will tell you where to send it to.
Thanks
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2643
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/06/93 2:50p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I live in Canada and I am looking for the new 562B Panasonic CD-ROM drive that
is suppose to be multi-spin & compatible with SBPro / SB16. Do you have the
drive for sale or do you have any idea where I can get it ( US or Canada ) for
the best possible price?
If you know where it is available, is it compatible with OS/2 2.1?
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2644
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/06/93 2:55p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So the 562B/563 now is compatible with SBPro? Do you have any such idea where
I can purchase this drive in Canada? Is it OS/2 2.1 compatible?
One last question, what is the difference between 562B & the 563
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2645
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/06/93 2:57p
Subj: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is this drive compatible with OS/2 2.1 and how fast is it?
You can use the SBPro as the only interface card eh?
Thanks
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2646
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/06/93 3:12p
Subj: SUPER VALUES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me a catalog if available of these great prices
C E Bourguignon
293, North #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
Canada
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2647
To: DON RIEB Date: 09/06/93 3:14p
Subj: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please add me to your mailing list.
C E Bourguignon
293, North #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
Canada
************
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From: JEFF CUTLER Number: 2648
To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 09/06/93 1:06a
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello William!
02 Sep 93 23:13, William Schneider, Jr. wrote to All:
WSJ> But it didn't work. I even tried to do it without the '+', but it still
WSJ> won't go. I know, a lot of people will tell me to use another cache
WSJ> program, but I bought DOS 6 for all the new features, and can't stand any
WSJ> of them, so I gotta get my money back out of it somehow! By the way, I:
WSJ> is the drive letter for my CD-ROM. Thanks in advance! Chow!
I can't be sure but i know that Some CD Rom Device Drivers tell DOS to
treat the CD-Rom Drive as a Network Drive. SMARTDRV probably won't let you use
it on a Network drive (It isn't really but DOS thinks so.)
Jeff
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 2649
To: VINCENT CAPALBO Date: 09/02/93 4:19p
Subj: Bbs Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Vincent Capalbo wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXDo all CDROMS constantly spin when a disk is inside. If so a BBS
XXXwould have it spinning 24 hours. I know Tandy makes one that doesn't spin
XXXwhen a disk is in it till it needs it but that one is 900 m.s.
+-------------------------------+
I own an NEC CDR-84 and the disc doesn't continually spin when the drive
isn't being accessed. Even if the disc was being spinned 24 hours a
day, the motor should hold out. A good quality drive shouldn't quit on
you.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 2650
To: SHAWN MAZZUTO Date: 09/02/93 4:24p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Shawn Mazzuto wrote
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XXXOut of curiosity, would I need to buy another NEC CDR-84 CD-
XXXROM for the BBS, or can I get another NEC CD-ROM, but not
XXXas quick. This is so that I can use the same drivers in my
XXXconfig.
+-------------------------------+
Do you plan on running both drives on the same system? If you have a
standard SCSI port, you can use just about any drive on the same card as
long as it is a SCSI drive. The CD-ROM driver NEC provides should
recognize both drives without a problem.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2651
To: BRAD LEWIS Date: 09/06/93 2:32p
Subj: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C Refer: NONE
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-> About a year ago I purchased a SBPro mutimidia kit with an Internal
-> CD-Rom drive Model 521C and You would not believe the different
-> stories I get as I go from store to store with my question.
-> I have been told that Creative Labs still includes the same CD-rom
-> drive in
-> the kit as it did back then. I have my doubts. I bought Nightowl 9
-> and found I could not read it; so, I began my quest to find out why.
-> I phoned the Nightowl distributers and they told me that they are
-> just starting to hear about this and are considering releasing
-> another version of 9 so the older CD-ROMs can read it. I called
-> Creative labs and was told that there are 2 types of drives and 2
-> formats for writing to CD's . THey told me I can only read CD's that
-> have a maximum of 540 megs approx. while the newer drives can read
-> cd's with up to 680 megs. Now I am wondering what drive to buy next
-> and how long before something comes out it can't read.
I know what you mean but the 540meg format is pretty much the standard
their idiots to release it on a newer format as if we are all going to
sell our cd roms to buy the ones that have the higher capacity. If
their software takes up more than 540megs they SHOULD put it on 2 cd
roms rather than being cheap skates.
Louis
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 2652
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/03/93 9:27p
Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE
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>Hi Ron. The OS/2 update package is available to anyone
>with a previous version of OS/2 OR any prior DOS.... So
>most all of us would qualify. Hurry
>though. Ends soon I think (9/30?).
Not true. You're confusing the fact that the "upgrade" version of
OS/2 costs inherently less than the regular version - for the rebate
itself though a prior version of DOS is not mentioned.
Here's the actual text from the sheet that describes the rebate:
========================================================================
SPECIAL OFFER - $30.00 REBATE FROM IBM
If you are upgrading from any previous version of the OS/2 operating
system, IBM is pleased to announce that you can obtain a rebate on the
OS/2 2.1 product!
REBATE INSTRUCTIONS
To obtain your $30.00 rebate from IBM, follow the instructions below:
1. Enclose one of the following as proof of purchase from your OS/2
1.x or 2.0 product:
- Proof of License
- Original Receipt
- Certification Form
AND
the receipt for OS/2 2.1 as proof of purchase.
2. Complete the Registration Card that came with OS/2 2.1
3. Mail the proof of purchase from your OS/2 1.x or or 2.0, your proof
of purchase for OS/2 2.1, and your Registration Card for OS/2 2.1 to:
- IBM Fulfillment Headquarters
- P.O. Box 525
- Dearborn, MI 48121-0525
Allow 8-10 weeks for receipt of rebate.
Offer expires September 14, 1993
=========================================================================
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 2653
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/06/93 6:32a
Subj: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike, are you coming up to the big computer swap meet next Saturday Sept 11 in
Vancouver (actually in Richmond)?
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 2654
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/06/93 6:35a
Subj: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
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Ismail, are you coming up the computer swap meet/sales next Saturday in
Vancouver (actually in Richmond)? Am curious to see all your cdroms.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 2655
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:07a
Subj: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
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Hello there,
I hope this group is appropriate for my posting.
Have any of you heard of Commodore's new CD32 yet? Here's an article from
GEnie I thought some people might be interested in. I will also post a
list of CD32 titles to be released.
Reprinted by Permission from the 5-MINUTE Weekend
News Network, a *StarShip*(tm) Production on GEnie(R).
Commodore UK Introduces 32-bit CD Console: CD32
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"We could bring a 32-bit console out tomorrow...
but the problem is the price -- and I don't think
that problem will be solved this year or next year."
______ -Sega US, June 1993
(__ __) Great Britain -- June 16, 1993
/ /
/ /
(_/he machine of "tomorrow, this year, and next year" is here now.
Commodore's Amiga CD32, the world's fibrst 32-bit CD console is officially
launched today.
Incredibly it retails for just GBP 299.99 (US $400.00).
The launch leaves Sega, with its price problems, and Nintendo, with no
discernable interest in developing a CD console, trailing in the dust.
(GS: Nintendo is working on a CDROM system to be released in a few years)
And it sets up this ground-breaking new games machine to take the world by
storm when it hits the shelves worldwide at the end of August.
David Pleasance, Commodore UK's joint managing director, said, "The Amiga
CD32 simply blows away the opposition. It's considerably more powerful, has
better software support and, best of all, costs less."
Third party software publishers are united in their support for the CD32.
They include, among others, Gremlin, Millenium, Ocean Software, Psygnosis,
Team 17, Mindscape, and Virgin Games.
The top loading Amiga CD32 comes with an 11 button joypad. This tiny
(approximately A4-size) [thats 8.5" x 11" to us yanks -Quarters] machine is
packed with computing power.
It includes the Motorolla 68020 processor and comes complete with 2
Megabytes of RAM.
The internal "engine" is based on the same AGA chipset which has established
Commodore's Amiga 1200 home computer as the UK's market leader.
So, like the Amiga 1200, it is capable of displaying 256,000 colors on
screen from a total palette of 16.8 million colors. That's hugely superior
to any existing games CD player.
The console also has a built-in operating system (Commodore's own Amiga
"Workbench") which means it can be expanded into a fully functioning
computer.
The machine can also play audio CDs, CD + Graphics, and Commodore's CDTV
format. It contains an expansion capability for Full Motion Video based on
the world standard MPEG.
For more information, see *StarShip* Bulletin Board CATegory 19, Topic 41. A
digitized photo is available in Library File #20302 CD32.JPG.
- END OF ARTICLE -
Not mentioned in this article was the chunky to planar chip.
From Amiga Format: "This chip allows graphics developed for a chunky pixel
based machine to be ported straight to the Amiga without any conversion.
This means that developers can use either chunky or planar graphics, which
ever suits them best."
Anyway, CD32 looks like a hot system. I'm sure it'll do excellent in
Europe, but America is a totally different question. (Where SNES rules
surpreme)
More specs:
14 MHz 68020
AGA chipset (16.8 million colour palette, 256 000 displayble)
C-Cube MPEG chipset
Chunky to planar chip
2 Meg RAM
Double speed Matsushita CD-ROM drive
Keboard connector
Floppy drive connector
2 joystick ports
11 button joystick
Photo-CD compatible
MPEG-1 film CD compatible (as is 3DO, CD-I with FMV upgrade)
Audio CD compatible
I expect it to be priced under $400 American (possibly $350 or so).
Gary
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 2656
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 8:43a
Subj: CD32 Titles 1/2 Refer: NONE
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--==< Titles to be released for the Amiga CD32 >==--
Compiled from various sources on the networks
* = new since last update
----
1884 (Millenium)
1869 (Flairsoft)
7th Guest (Virgin) -
Akira (Ice) -
From the film.
Alfred Chicken (Mindscape)
Alien Breed 2 (Team 17)
Ambermoon CD32 - November release
Amiga CD Football (Plattsoft)
B 17 Flying Fortress (Microprose)
Battlestorm (Titus) *
Biosphere (Bullfrog)
Body Blows [2] (Team 17)
Burning Rubber (Ocean)
Cannon Fodder (Virgin)
Captive 2 (Mindscape)
Case of the Cautious Condor (Tiger Media) *
Chaos Engine (Mindscape)
Cinderella (Discus) *
Civilization (Microprose)
Compilation Disk (Mindscape) *
Composer Quest (Virtual Entertainment)
Connoisseurs of Fine Art (Lascelles) *
Creation
Daughter of Serpents (Millenium)
Defender of the Crown II (Sachs Entertainment)
Diggers (Millenium) -
"Diggers has been written from scratch on the CD32 -
it's not a conversion. There are six digital CD audio
tracks, at *least* 256 colours used throughout, with
24-bit copper backgrounds. The 34 levels each consist of
32,000 locations, with seven terrain types. Because we
didn't have to worry about the size of the game, we were
able to go to town with the amount of graphics."
- Toby Simpson ( Programmer )
Dino Worlds (Millenium)
Dogfight (Microprose)
Dracula (Psygnosis)
Drive Fractalus (Mindscape)
Dune [2] (Virgin)
England World Cup '94
Epic (Ocean)
FA Premier Soccer (Ocean)
Fantastic Voyage (Centaur) *
First Contact (Ocean)
Flashback (US Gold)
Flight of the Amazon Queen (Renegade)
Formula One GP (Microprose)
Frontier (Konami)
Global Chaos (Hex) *
Grolier Encyclopedia 2 (Xiphias)
Guiness Books Of Records (New Media)
Gunship 2000 (Microprose)
Hero Quest-Legend of Soracil (Gremlin) *
Heroic Age of Space Flight/NASA (Troika) *
Indiana Jones FOA (Lucasarts)
Inferno (Ocean)
Insight Technology (Optonica)
International Championship Golf (Ocean)
James Pond [2] (Millenium)
John Doe (Ocean)
Jurassic Park (Ocean) -
This is an Ultima Underworld/Wolfenstein 3D type game where you
have to hunt Raptors etc...
18+ months in development so far: October
release. "We couldn't do the 3D section with the
kiddy-type consoles, but we can with the Amiga."
- Ciaran Brennan of Bastion, Ocean PR
May be bundled with the CD32.
Legacy (Microprose)
Lemmings Compilation (Psygnosis) *
Liberation (Mindscape)
Lionheart (Thalion)
Litil Divil (Gremlin)
Long Hard Day at the Ranch (Discus) *
Lotus Turbo Trilogy (Gremlin)
Magic Carpet
Manchester United 2 (Krisalis)
Microcosm (Psygnosis)
Monkey Island (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 2 (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 3 (Lucasarts) -
Perhaps.
Mortal Kombat (Acclaim/Probe)
Moving gives me a stomach ache (Discus) *
--==> Continued next message! <==--
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 2657
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 8:33a
Subj: CD32 Titles 2/2 Refer: NONE
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Mr. Nutz (Ocean)
Mud Puddle (Discus) *
Musicolor (Virgin)
Nick Faldo's Championship Golf (Grandslam)
Nigel Mansell GP (Gremlin)
North Polar Expedition (Virgin)
One Step Beyond (Ocean) -
The follow-up adventure of Quavery Colin. Release: Christmas.
Oscar (Flairsoft)
Overdrive (Team 17)
Pinball Dreams
Pinball Fantasies (21st Century) -
256 colour tables, CD-quality audio.
Pinball Illusions (21st Century)
Prehistoric (Titus) *
Premier Manager (Ocean)
Project X2 (Team 17)
Putty (System 3)
Return to the Lost World (Mirage - may licence)
Rise of the Robots (Mirage - may licence)
Robocod [3] (Millenium)
Rough and Tumble (Renegade)
Sabre Team (Krisalis)
Second Samurai (Virgin)
Sensible World of Soccer (Mindscape)
Sim City (Maxis) *
Sim Life (Mindscape)
SleepWalker (Ocean)
Snooker/Pool 2 (Virgin)
Soccer Kid (Krisalis)
Space Junk (Mirage - may licence)
Space Simulation (Gremlin)
Stamps of France and Morocco (Seriat) *
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Super Frog [2] (Team 17)
Syndicate (Bullfrog) -
Ability to look into buildings and rotate the 3D view (and no
doubt the other graphics & sound will be improved)
Tale of Peter Rabbit (Discus) *
TFX (Ocean/DID)
The Cure (Ice) *
The Legend of Soracil (Gremlin)
The Ninja Trilogy (System 3)
The Two Towers
Ultima Underworld (Mindscape)
Uridium 2 (Renegade)
Utopia 2 (Gremlin)
Various Games Park [Pack?] (Mindscape)
Whale's Voyage (Flairsoft)
Wing Commander (Mindscape)
Wing Commander 2 (Mindscape)
World Circuit Grand Prix (Microprose)
Zool [2] (Gremlin)
-END-
From Cu Amiga's August issue
CD32 Sega CD
68EC020 @ 14Mhz 68000 @ 12Mhz
res 1280x512 640x320
palette 16.8 mill 256
colours 256,000 64
4 channel 8-bit 8 channel FM
2Megs (128M upgrade) 128K
Max data transfer rate
300K per sec. 150K per sec.
price
299 pounds 269 (Sega)+ 199 (CD add-on)= 388 pounds
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 2658
To: DANNY TONG Date: 09/06/93 8:41a
Subj: Re: Mod, 669 or wav on cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 04 Sep 93 Danny Tong wrote to All:
DT> Has anybody seen a CD-ROM with MOD, 669 or WAV for sale?
Safe Harbor Computers sells the "Ultimate MOD Collection" CDROM for $22.99
American. I think it contains something like 1600 MODS! However, it's
listed as a Commodore CDTV product, so I'm not sure if an IBM or MAC CDROM
drive will beable to read it. (depends what format it's in) Maybe you could
call them and ask what format the CD is in? Here's their information if
you're still interested:
Safe Harbor Computers
2120 E. Moreland Blvd.
Suite L, Waukesha, WI
53186
Orders: 800-544-6599
Information/Tech support/returns: 414-548-8125
Hope that helps!
Gary
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2659
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 09/07/93 7:48a
Subj: Re: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KU> AS far as I KNOW THE KODAK PHOTO cd IS WINDOWS prg
I finally found out that the Kodak program is available in DOS or Windows
and the local Babbage's only carries the DOS (I don't know why) version.
Someone also suggested Tempra Access which is DOS but supports video cards with
VESA.
Sam
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From: DANIEL PRINCE Number: 2660
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 6:31a
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
My brother has found that some of his games (especially Sherlock
Holmes II) don't sound very good on his 8-bit Sound Blaster. He
was wondering if switching to a 16-bit card would make these
games sound better even if they aren't written specifically for a
16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
8-bit card sound better?
Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
8-bit SB being the previous standard.
Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
... My cat thinks he is a gourmet. He's really a gourmand.
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 2661
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 1:29a
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUNT PRICES
***LABOR-DAY SPECIALS***
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS
$4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2662
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/07/93 12:52a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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BF> > BF> >I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS
BF> > BF> I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc
BF> monstrosities. I can
BF> > This makes no sense at all. Caddies are a lot
BF> more CONVENIENT than
BF> >non-caddy units.
BF> Not at all. Unless you want to spend the extra $$$ to put
BF> EACH AND EVERY CD-ROM YOU OWN
It is utter foolishness to do otherwise. The extra $$$ are trivial,
compared with the investment of a dozen or so CD-ROM disks.
BF> I also happen to hate the extra expen$e of those *$&*&^*@&^ caddies.
Do you hate the extra expense of relacing CD's? One trashed CD can pay
for an awful lot of caddies. The time savings are also easily worth the
comparatively tiny investment.
Les
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2663
To: ROY COCHRUN Date: 09/02/93 8:06p
Subj: Precision mapping Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RC>I missed earlier message(s) on this thread. Which mapping program/disc
>are you discussing? I collect them (altho I have no idea why!!) --
Precision Mapping is the name of the set. It is real nice. There are
two discs, one east and one west. You can zoom into any city across the
country. I found the dirt roads near my home in a very small town in
Alabama. The American Business Phonebook comes with it free. My price
on it is $89.
Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2664
To: JEFF BRYANT Date: 09/02/93 8:08p
Subj: Re: ENCYCLOPEDIA'S Refer: NONE
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>JL>Computer Works Jim...
>JL>CD-Rom Sales!
>JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
>JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Is this BBS up 24 hrs? I tried calling, and got no connect. I can"t hear
>my modem speaker, so I don't know if there was no answer, voice answer
>or what, I know it wasn't busy. It's POSSIBLE I got the wrong number. :o
Yes, it sure is. It stays pretty busy now that I have a Pioneer 6 disc
changer online, but it shouldn't be found offline very often. I have it
offline from 2 am till about 2:20 am CST for the mail run, but that
should give you a busy signal.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2665
To: HERMAN WIGGINS Date: 09/02/93 8:29p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HW>I have So Much Shareware BBS ready for sale 3 disk set, price $40.00 if
>you are interested in these disk reply here..Also have some other titles
>which I will announce later...
What exactly are you selling? Is it So Much Shareware 1, 2, & 3 or a
set of CD's? If it is 1, 2, & 3, isn't there a lot of duplication among
them?
Jim...
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS Number: 2666
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/07/93 10:43a
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
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Not a lots of dups on this Cd it contains 3 disk set..
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From: TOM CZACHOR Number: 2667
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 3:51p
Subj: SONY 535 PROBLEM Refer: NONE
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Help... I have two sony 535 Cd-ROM drives. One will read all my disks
SMS 1-2-3 & NightOwl 7-8-9, the second drive doesn't like them all and
ejects them when it can't read them. It is mainly night 8 & SMS 2 I have
the trouble with.
Any suggestions??
>>tom<<
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From: JIMM CRAWFORD Number: 2668
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 12:38a
Subj: CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
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I'm doing some market research on CD-ROMs...
What is it that you look for in purchasing SHAREWARE/Public Domain
files on CD-ROMs? Any and all specifics would be appreciated.
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 2669
To: BORIS OSACDIW Date: 09/05/93 10:31p
Subj: ProPhone 94 Refer: NONE
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> BO> we sell the most up to date copies for only $89.
I have the 7-disc set Pro Phone 1993. I paid $150.00 for it five months ago,
and although there have been a few disapointments, I've found an
awful lot of names and numbers I wasn't able to get elsewhere. I see
a lot of complaints about the 93 edition, but I'm satisfied with it.
I would, however like to pay less when I update to the newer version.
Boris, I see you're selling the 1993 version for $89.00, what will you
be selling the 7-disc set of Pro-Phone 1994 for when available.
Also, I've been looking for a medical-type CD, not necessarily with medical
symptoms and complaints, but a complete listing of prescription drugs and
possible reactions/complications and a listing
of other prescriptions/drugs that could react or inter-react with those.
I've seen a couple, but no documentation or background on the individuals or
doctors/hospitals that did the research for the listings. I don't want to buy
a disk that was compiled by some computer enthusiast or technical research
person. I want one put out by a doctor or hospital staff. Do you have
anything like what I'm asking about???
Stu Rothman
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 2670
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/05/93 10:54p
Subj: Prescription CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike, I don't know if you've seen some of my recent messages, but I've
been looking for a medical-type CD, not necessarily with medical
symptoms and complaints, but a complete listing of prescription
drugs and possible reactions/complications and a listing of other
prescriptions/drugs that could react or inter-react with those. I've seen a
couple, but no documentation or background on the individuals or
doctors/hospitals that did the research for the listings. I don't want to
buy a disk that was compiled by some computer enthusiast or technical
research person. I want one put out by a doctor or hospital staff. Do you
have anything like what I'm asking about???
I just saw where somebody returned a MAYO CLINIC CD to for THE FAMILY
DOCTOR. What are these and why was one returned??? How's the other??
Stu Rothman
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From: BERTRAND SCHMITT Number: 2671
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 1:47p
Subj: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there,
Here is an incoming message from Switzerland. ( fasten your seatbelt )
I'm thinking of buying the Sound Blaster 16ASP Multimedia Upgrade Kit.
Up to now, I was only able to find a 16 without the ASP version.
I read in a magazine "TILT" that the latest kit that Creative Labs made was
with the 16ASP and the Panasonic CDR 652B. Is is able of double speed and an
amazing 600Kb/s with some games ( Yes, it was written black on white ).
The question is: Has anybody never heard of it ? Does it exist ? Where can I
find it ( in Switzerland perhaps ) ?
Thanks
╔═╗
╠═╩╗
╚══╝ertrand
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From: NIRAV SHETH Number: 2672
To: TIM HELTON Date: 09/05/93 10:13p
Subj: Disk Needed Refer: NONE
Read: 09/24/93 7:57a Private: No
You were interested in a game with a ecological theme... get Ecoquest..
I got it for $35 new.....
call me at (205)351-0072 or leave me a message if your interested...
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From: TOM KENNEDY Number: 2673
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 3:14p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'd like your catalog. My mail address is:
Tom Kennedy
10337 Appleway Ct.
Charlotte, NC 28227
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2674
To: JOHN KROPP Date: 09/05/93 7:43a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ed, I will take em at that price if in good shape and postpaid to me
> at that figure. Let me know if agreeable. Thanks!
>
>
Sorry John ... they have been sold
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2675
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/05/93 7:44a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
>
> I will take these. Give me your address info and I will send
> payment for the caddies.
>
Sorry .. they are sold
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From: DENNIS DAVIS Number: 2676
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 10:55a
Subj: Zutsr Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone tell me where I can freq a copy of ZuTSR 1.10?? I
understand it works a whole lot better than the 1.00 verison...I could
never get it to intialize my ZyXEL 1496E+.
I called the ZyXEL bbs the other day and did a scan for ZuTSR...no go
on that.
Any comments appreciated!
... THE RSUME EXCHANGE BBS (602) 947-4283 Scottsdale, Arizona.
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From: ROBERT PROHL Number: 2677
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 10:16a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey people.. gotta question..
Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I could
just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
W
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2678
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 09/06/93 9:03p
Subj: Fed Micro CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>Have you ever given any thought to having a booth at the
JC>Fed Micro CD-ROM convention in Washington D.C. ? It is a
JC>great convention. MrCDrom was there doing a huge business
Sounds great, but I'd have to move a lot of CD's to pay for a cross-country
trip! 8)
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2679
To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 09/06/93 9:03p
Subj: World Vision Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JP>Hi Mike, I am still waiting for the #2 disk of WORLD Visions 3 disk set.
Have
JP>you forgotten me. :{)
Haven't forgotten Joe. I just got the replacement in on Saturday, and will
mail it out to you tomorrow.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2680
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:03p
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
______________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
|______________________________________________________|
We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
- Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff (a).$29
PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * 633mb and 5109 files + BBS-ready! Don't miss out..$29
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: BRUCE CLAUNCH Number: 2681
To: RJ KULMAN Date: 09/07/93 11:17a
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hiya
Thanks for the info, but still no help.
I have all that was said, changed slots and watch for power interuption
on my 386sx25 I also have a slight problem (the some one)
if I turn off the system then wait a secon or two it'll put a noise over
my sound blaster pro and then I'll turn it on and all works
Thanks for trieing
Bruce
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 2682
To: KEN BACHMAN Date: 09/03/93 11:27p
Subj: Re: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** KEN BACHMAN wrote this on 08-31─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Well if you like the talking games for CD's. Try LOOM it also talks
─>instead of having to read the text. The Adventure of Willy Beamish is
─>another one, but so far I have not been as impressed with it as I was
─>with LOOM, just not have spent that much time with it at this point.
Actually, I have LOOM for CD-ROM. I got the game after I had already
beat the EGA disk version. It is good, but I don't think there is
enough music. I think you like it better then the voices in Willy
Beamish because the voices in LOOM is actual CD Audio (same as the
music). All the other games I have seen have the voices as data on the
disk, so it's not as clear.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
09/03/93 18:48
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From: RANDY WHITE Number: 2683
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 09/07/93 7:46a
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD'S! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It is a puzzle solving game, the graphics and sound are awesome, it is the
reason everyone bought a CD-Rom Drive. A very cutting edge type of game. Get
it even if you don't think you will like solving puzzles, I don't care for
games like that, but I loved the 7th Guest...
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2684
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/07/93 6:43p
Subj: Macademic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ya but I would have exceeded the TEN Line limit. The moderator got upset the
last time I sent it all as one msg. So I took another approach <g>..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2685
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/07/93 6:45p
Subj: Anatomist¬ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Mate, I didn't exceed the TEN line maximum per the echo rules and I
didn't continue to send page after page of pontification about "To Caddy or Not
to Caddy"! <g>
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2686
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/07/93 6:46p
Subj: U.S. History CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> I need a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled US History by the Bureau of
MM> Development. CDROM to be used is an AppleCD 300. Request Price and
MM> shipping info..tks..m2
DC> We have the IBM version in stock at $27.95 plus
DC> shipping...615-339-0235 24 hours to order.
But Doug is it MAC compatable? IF it is I will take it..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2687
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/07/93 6:47p
Subj: Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC> We have Mayo and Animals in stock for $25 each.....615-339-0235 to
DC> order.
I will give ya call..m2
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 2688
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:17p
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING. IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
Signed ______________________________
Your Signature
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From: ED YEE Number: 2689
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/07/93 1:33p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> The ONLY drives that will produce a CD-ROM that is
BF> readable by any standard CD-
BF> ROM player are the "One-off CD recorders".
BF> A "WORM" drive uses a COMPLETELY different mode of
BF> operation, and is NOT CD-
BF> ROM compatable in any way, shape, OR form.
BF> Ditto "Erasable Optical" (AKA "ReMOD") drives like
BF> the Maxtor Tahiti....
A pioneer WORM drive claims to be compatible. I saw an add for it. Maybe,
it's proprietary.
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2690
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/07/93 6:26a
Subj: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ismail!
Monday September 06 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to Lee Noga:
>> In a message to NEIL BERGMAN <09-02-93 23:21> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
>> IA>> > SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
>> IA>> YES
>> No-No-No-No-No-No-No-+-Read the back of the cover--This is one company
>> who I feel will be very aggressive with litigation if their scans are put
>> on the BBS--This disc *IS NOT* BBS acceptable, and should not be used as
>> such.
IA> Seems like both of your disk have legal problems and there is an apperent
IA> piss contest. I am sorry but you guys need to handle your own problems. I
IA> was only helping to another echo participant.
No you weren't. You were giving him advice that could potentially land him in
court with a copyright infringement suit. Anyone who follows the industry
knows that Southern Beauties is NOT to be used on a BBS. And what do Lee's
"legal problems" and "piss contest" have to do with that? Go back to your
corner, and stay there until you learn how to be a good boy.
... "Sleeping with the Enemy" -- Starring William J. Clinton
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 2691
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/07/93 5:22p
Subj: NEW DR.CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boris!
is the black box out yet?
* WCE 1.10/2159 * Now diamonds AND AIDS are forever.
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From: ROBERT MCGEHEE Number: 2692
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:01p
Subj: READ ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Everyone, I was going to get a CD-Rom, I was looking at a Texel, 265
m/s acces time, for $379. If anyone has a better deal, or has the
CD-Rom and can tell me about it, please, please write me on E-mail.
For all those software dealers out there, When I get my CD-Rom, which
will be very soon, I will need software, so please send me your
catalogs. My address is:
Robert McGehee
251 Arapaho Lane
Madison, MS
39110-9193
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From: DON PRYOR Number: 2693
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/07/93 5:02p
Subj: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hello Don!
> Saturday September 04 1993, Don Pryor writes to all:
> DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
> Yes.
Thanks Dave...
Now to find the least expensive place to send my money order.
I would accept offers via netmail to my board at 1:291/6, in particular
a directory of it's contents. Know where I could find same? I'd even
freq it...
Don
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From: DON PRYOR Number: 2694
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 09/07/93 5:06p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ahoy Janusz!
> On <Monday August 30 1993>, Janusz Surowka was mumbling to Kevin
> Plummer:
> JS> what the hell is this Night owl
> Person who stays up late. 8-)
That's like the country boy who thought a quarterback was a refund..
D,
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From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 2695
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/06/93 11:25a
Subj: KODAK PHOTO CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Andre, I have Soundblaster Pro with their Mitsumi player. Will Kodak
photos work with this and Paint Shop Pro? I use PSP for viewing GIFs and
PCX files ond CD-Rom and it works fine. Except that it won't edit the CD
itself. However, I can edit the image, change the format and save it to
file. I wonder if that can be done with Kodak?
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From: EDWARD ZDROK Number: 2696
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 1:21p
Subj: CD ROM drives for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have 2 Toshiba external 600ms CD ROM drives for sale. Includes
controller cards and cables.
Asking $175 a piece or $325 for both (+ S/H)
If interested, please leave voice message at (908) 272-3562.
Thanks
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From: JIM CONOVER Number: 2697
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 8:46a
Subj: WD7000 SCSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm currently in need of some WD7000-FASST2 SCSI host adapters. Anyone out
there that might have any (working or not) to get rid of, please let me know
on this echo. Thanx.
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2698
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 09/07/93 8:18p
Subj: Re: BBS CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ryan,
Try a new shareware program called CD ACCESS by Corry MacFarlane. You can
freq it here or find it closer to you. It is a door program that sets the
entire environment and helps you catalog any CD to work on a BBS.
--- QuickBBS 2.76a
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2699
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 09/06/93 7:50p
Subj: Cd-rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> ... four months later ... YES! My CD-ROM driver (Mitsumi) got
>FOUR MONTHS to arrive here, in Brasilia. Do you believe ??? Four
>months ???? It's incredible, but I thougth that it wouldn't take so
>long, and the salesman told me it would take only three or four days :(
Four months??? That is ridiculous! Well, I'm glad you did FINALLY get
it though.
I'll dig your address out of my database and get you a copy of my latest
catalog. Yes, I do take Mastercard & Visa. I'm glad to hear you are up
and running with your drive now. Let me know if you need anything.
Take care.
Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2700
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 09/06/93 8:04p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> as I wrote other day, my CDROM arrived just three days ago, and
>as I was CRAZY to test it, I bought the NIGHT OWL 9 CDrom. And I would
>like you to send me the new catalog, if it is possible. I have the
>catalog you sent to me three months ago, and I'm sure it is out of date,
>right ? Please, send the Credit Card form to pay the CDs with
>International Credit Card, O.K. ?
No problem. I'll get it right out.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2701
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:54p
Subj: New CD-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The new CD-Rom titles are starting to roll in. Here are a few examples:
Shareware Explorer - The best multiple disc set to be released to date!
There are 3 MS-DOS discs and 1 Windows disc. 26,000 files with less
than 1% duplication. These discs are easy to set up with SF-Rom or
EZ-ROM using the PCBoard style file lists with dates and sizes. File
dates are mostly 1992 and 1993, which is very impressive for a
collection this large! Price $59.00
King's Quest VI "Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow" - A multimedia fantasy &
adventure game by Sierra. A shipwrecked prince must find his way across
a series of islands in search of a princess in peril. You'll need all
your wits and imagination to overcome the gauntlet of baffling puzzles
and fantastic creatures that attempt to keep you from your goal.
Can be played under DOS or Windows. Price $50.00
Precision Mapping - A complete mapping program that includes
street-level maps of the entire continental United States on two CD-Rom
discs. The end-user can view, edit, print, and query map data at any
scale from the entire U.S. down to a city block. Look up addresses,
measure distances, plan out travel routes, print out laser quality maps,
clip raster images for import to other packages, create your own
customized maps of virtually any type or scale...and much more!
This is version 1.5 with improved online help. This set also includes
the American Business Phonebook CD-Rom. Price $85.00
Look for the following new shareware titles coming soon:
Software Vault Gold
PC Sig Volume 13
Shareware Studio III
Phoenix 4
Pier 3
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Call for our latest catalog or
(205) 793-4481 Voice log on and download catalog.zip.
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 2702
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 8:54p
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Help!
I am using the above drive with the 8 bit card, but I don't have drivers.
Could someone please hint at which drivers I would need (filename if possible)
and where to get them (BBS, Panasonic, etc.). The tech support person for this
particular CD ROM drive is real difficult to get ahold of - I have been playing
telephone tag with him for several days, so if I could find away around him I
would be very happy!
Eric
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 2703
To: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Date: 09/07/93 12:12a
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> 1:396/17 or leave number and name to p'req.
I can be reached:
Voice: (310) 652-2858
Fax: (310) 652-2858
Better yet, leave me a mailing address and I'll mail you a
catalog and other goodies.
Thanks for the interest.
Neil Bergman
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From: GREG ARMENIA Number: 2704
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 1:17a
Subj: The Pier Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************************************
**** The Pier Shareware #3 CD-ROM ****
**************************************
We are now taking pre-orders for The Pier Shareware #3
ONLY $39.00 With FREE Shipping During Pre-orders Season!
The Pier Exchange (tm) is proud to present the HOTTEST and most
CURRENT CD-ROMs ever released. The Pier Shareware CD-ROMs are a series
of sequential updated disks containing the latest Shareware programs.
All files on the discs are TRULY the most CURRENT files available on
the market at the time of their release. Unlike other Shareware CD-ROMs
that claim to have current files, The Pier Exchange has assured this
with "Smart Date Checking." (S.D.C.) Such dated files as FILE_ID.DIZ,
READ.ME, etc., within the archives are disregarded giving you TRULY the
latest files.
The Pier Exchange CD-ROM Publishing has set the standards for
Shareware CD-ROMs in regrades to the quality of files one comes to
expect on CD-ROMs. Now we would like to set the standard on CD-ROM
Access Software!
Introducing for the first time on The Pier Shareware #3, ThePier
v2.0 High Performance CD-ROM Access Program. This is not a GUI
interface put over v1.0, but rather a complete rewrite, and as a
result it is 300% FASTER then version 1.0. The GUI interface will
support EGA or VGA graphic modes. There is full mouse support with
pull-down menus. The Search menu will allow you to search ThePier
database for matching file names, keywords, or archive content file
names. The viewers are one of the nicest features of ThePier. They
allow you to associate programs with data files on the basis of the
data file extension. ThePier has a built-in viewer that is used as the
default viewer unless you specify something different. You will have
the ability to add additional comments associated with any file within
the database. The ability to copy or extract files to any path, on the
fly!
Features Of ThePier v.2.0:
* GUI Graphical Interface - EGA VGA * Keywords Search
* Full Mouse Support * File Name Search
* Pull-down Menus * File Name Within Archive Search
* File Comment Field Entries * Copy/Extract Files
* Searches 300% Faster Then V.1.0 * Built-in Default Text File
Viewer
* Multiple File Viewer Configuration * Can Run In Text Mode
* Will Not Modify AUTOEXEC.BAT * Blows Competitors Out of The
Water
**************************
The Pier Shareware #3 Features: * Subjects *
* ---------------------- *
* Windows Applications *
* 640+ Megs of Shareware files * Windows Games *
* <ASP> directory * Programing Languages *
* 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. * Programing Tools *
(Smart Date Checking in place) * SVGA GIF Pictures *
* ThePier v2.0 retrieval software contained * Educational Programs *
on the CD-ROM (High Performance CD-ROM * Games / Entertainment *
Access) * Sound Blaster /MIDI *
* All files have been scanned for * DTP / Clipart *
viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN * Bible *
* Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat! * Medical / Health *
Remote Access FILES.BBS Support * Word Processing *
* Less then 1% duplication between * Laser/Printer Utils *
The Pier Shareware 1 & 2 * BBS Programs / Doors *
* Most current files on the market * Communications *
* 30 day money back guarantee * Legal *
* OS/2 Programs/Utils *
* *
Distributors/Dealers are welcomed. * And Much Much More! *
**************************
We are now taking pre-orders for The Pier Shareware #3, and of
course, with all pre-orders shipping and handling is FREE! Order by
voice, FAX, or BBS online ORDER door. The cost of the CD-ROM is only
$39.00. We accept all major credit cards, check, and money order. Check
and money order must be US funds and drawn on US banks. Make check
payable to: The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214
T h e #1 S h a r e w a r e C D - R O M
And We Back Our CD-ROMs With a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee!!!!
Pre-order yours today and we will pay the shipping!
ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4
International Orders, FAX, or Information 716-875-4931, BBS 716-875-3130
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2705
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: US national phonedisc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>>> I am looking for the above named disc sets. NOT PROPHONE!
BO>>>> Does anyone sell or have info on these?
BO>>Ron, " Phone Disk USA " !! Comes in business or residental versions.
>> What, if anything, is the advantage of PhoneDisk USA over
>> ProPhone (I have the 3-disc prophone set)?
Prophone isn't as up to date as PhoneDisk USA. It doesn't offer as many
nice features as well.
For the money, PhoneDisk USA is a far better better than ProPhone and
more accurate in it's phone listings.
We have a large number of customers that are very happy with PhoneDisk,
in both versions.
Interested in additional information, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2706
To: GEOFF LEWIS Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
>> Boris, just wanted to let you know that the DRM 604X I got
>> from you is working fine, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.
>> Great boost for the BBS!
Glad to hear it Geoff, you'll also be just as impressed with our
totally new concept in providing you with information on our cdrom
product line as well as a bunch of FREE BEES to our customers.
Watch your mail box soon.....or leading magazine!!!
Boris Osadciw
... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2707
To: TOM BROWN Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: CD for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am looking for a CD that has files on it that are for BBS
>> use. I am talking about doors, protocols, added features. I
>> am running TAG bbs and it is Compatable with almost ALL other
>> bbs programs. It is VERY easy to use for both the sysop and
>> the user. It user the FILES.DIR format. If you have a disk of
>> this type, please let me know.
Please feel free to contact us via the fidonet address below and we'll
be happy to assist you further as we carry a large number of BBS relaited
cd's that will fit your needs.
Hope this helps..
Boris Osadciw
... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2708
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: Drive speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my BBS.
>> I don't 4 really want to spend too much on the drive but I
>> have to be sure that it will be able to keep up with people
>> downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS & the serial port is locked
>> at 19200 bps. I noticed that the NEC drives that the local
>> store carries (the cheaper ones) have 500ms access speed. Is
>> that fast enough to keep up with my modem. My HD's are all
>> quantums that are about 15ms so I thought 500ms was a BIG
>> difference. I will later be getting a multispin cdrom for my
>> personal machine so don't really care if the BBS one can't do
>> photo-cd's or whatever. What speed is the Pioneer DRM-600A ??
>> coz I notice a few sysops use that. How does the Pioneer drive
>> handle it if 2 people are online & they try & access files on
>> different disks at the same time? 8) I presume it is 1
>> mechanism with a carousel or is it 6 mechanisms & able to
>> access each at the same time.
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to asist in selecting
a cdrom drive for your BBS as we carry almost every major brand out there
and run several of them on our own BBS.
Yes, we also have the Pioneer 6-disk changer as well as the NSM 100 disk
changer and all of them online on our BBS.
Give us a call, you'll be glad you did !
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2709
To: DANNY TONG Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: Mod, 669 or wav on cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Has anybody seen a CD-ROM with MOD, 669 or WAV for sale?
We have a CD call "Soundware", it contains over 10,000 diffrent
sound files and programs. It claims to be the largest selection
of sound files every collected.
Interest, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2710
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T N E W C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((
DR. MUSIC - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
DR. SHAREWARE - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
DR. GAMES - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
DR. WINDOWS - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
All BBS READY !! - BUY 5 AND GET THE 6TH ONE FREE !!
Price - $55.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec
DEALERS WELCOME
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2711
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 2:49a
Subj: Hot CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
CD POWERBOX/WINDOWS - $20 COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE - $95.
GAME OR SOUNDWARE - $25. ALL CHESTNUT TITLES - $10.
HACKER CHRONICAL - $18. JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
NIGHT OWL 9.0 - $25. KINGS QUEST VI - $47.
SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29. TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN - $49.
SHAREWARE EXPLORER - $59. 9000 SOUNDS - $25.
SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - $20. 5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN - $29.
DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55. PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE - $89.
800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) - TECH 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: SCOTT MCMILLAN @ 913/8 Number: 2712
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 10:30a
Subj: Low, Low cd prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sole Source Systems
8128-C Mercury Point
San Diego, CA 92111
Tel: 619-467-0661
Fax: 619-467-0665
BBS: 619-467-0666
September 6, 1993
Special Pricing
Minimum order must exceed $100, prepaid only - NO COD's, FOB San Diego
California. Prices good for stock on hand. Offer expires September 31,
1993.
501 Sound Waves (SN) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$21
Adventures of Willie Beamish (GA). . . . . . . . . . $15
Aesop's Fables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $29
All American Multimedia (GR) . . . . . . . . . . . $18
Amazing Universe (ED) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $49
America's Premier Shareware 1993 (SW) . . . $19
Amiga Shareware (SW) . . . . $11
Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt (ED) . . . . . . . . $49
Animation Fantasies (Adult) . . . . . . . . . . . $19
(Too Many To List Here !!!!, freq the file
"prices.txt" for the rest)
Caddies
We have the standard sony type caddies - all japanese construction,
which is better - yet more expensive than the american product. For
resellers, we have the following prices:
Japanese "Sony" type caddies
Qty 1-99 $4.79 each
Qty 100+ $4.00 each
Qty 300+ $3.80 each
We also have the new swiss designed and manufactured "TriCaddy", this
revolutionary new product has no moving parts. It is completely made of
plastic and it is designed with the User who stores his CD's in their
caddies permanently. The user can remove his jewel case insert and place
it in the front of the Caddy.
Swiss "TriCaddy" type caddies
Qty 1-49 $4.59 each
Qty 50+ $4.00 each
Qty 100+ $3.65 each
Call for large Qty price!
CD Rom Drives (Special Pricing, limited to stock on hand)
Hitachi Internal CD Rom Drive 800 Ms., Prop. Control. . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . $135
NEC Intersect External SCSI (With Packing - Complete). . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . .$235
Panasonic SCSI Internal 500 Ms., 90 day swapout warranty w/o controller.
. . . . . . . $250
Panasonic SCSI External 500 Ms., 90 day swapout
warranty w/o controller. . . . . . . . $300
Controller for Panasonic SCSI Drive with Cable . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .$35
ACT NOW!!! DON'T WAIT - THESE DEALS WON'T LAST!!!
<?,A,C,D,G,H,L,Q,S,V,X
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From: JOE HAYES Number: 2713
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/04/93 1:54p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> Almost NOTHING except Lantastic will work with those proprietary
GP> boards.It's almost like throwing money down the toilet.
JH>If so how much do they want for there software?
GP> I bought a two-node demo version of WEB LAN for 10DM (about $6),
GP> complete with full docs, at CeBIT in Germany in March or April.
Did you buy the boards and the software?
Sounds like an awful good deal to me..
-Joe
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From: JOHN HART Number: 2714
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/05/93 5:04p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On 08-24-93, Gordon Peterson elucidated to Rowan Evans:
->
-> GP>RE>For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 s
-> GP>and I have listed it below :-
-> GP>
-> GP>I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a stand
-> GP>the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise
-> GP>bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve month
-> GP>Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later y
-> GP>find that you're still screwed? :-((
-> GP>
->
-> Sorry that you're upset Gordon, but until we can get full-motion
-> full-screen high resolution video with integrated hi-fi sound and
-> full-length movies on cd-rom, I think the standards are going to keep
-> moving upwards.
->
-> The real benefit of standards is that it allows authors of multimedia
-> titles to pick a level of equipment to aim at. Obviously, authors wit
-> business sense will NOT exclude big sections of their potential marke
-> so they will pitch their product accordingly. Some other authors will
-> "push the envelope" because they believe their product will be attrac
-> enough to cause users to upgrade their equipment (7th Guest immediate
-> springs to mind..).
->
-> I would never recommend someone buys less than an MPC-2 standard comp
-> (in fact I'd aim a little higher in the memory and hard disk areas),
-> that doesn't mean I'd sneer at someone who owns lesser equipment..
->
True, you don't want to be outdated right after you buy your equipment,
but it happens pretty soon anyways. Current stuff sure costs a lot
though. Seventh guest plays just fine on my MPC setup (Mistsumi LU0005
and Sound Blaster Pro.)
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From: DOUG SCHWANTES Number: 2715
To: RICHARD POUNCY Date: 09/05/93 6:28a
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I use HyperDisk 4.60 now and it is the fastest Cache I've ever used
but it does not seem to Cache my CD-ROM drive. I have HyperDisk loaded after
MSCDEX (the latest version that comes with DOS 6) but I can read a GIF from
the CD and then go to read it again and it takes just all long the 2nd time as
the 1st, any hints? Thanks, BYE!!!
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From: RON YOUNG Number: 2716
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 12:21p
Subj: Creative Labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone have the phone number for creative labs bbs here in the US?
Ron Young
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2717
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 9:51a
Subj: Aus. 562B distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All!
Just wondering if I could ask a about the availablity of the new Panasonic
562B drive that everybody seems to be tac...), or maybe even better, if it
comes packages with the SB16 and needed cables to join the two?
Thanks fot the time
Marc.
(Please tell me if this message is off topic and not allowed...)
■ KWQ/2 1.2 ■ τhï5 ï ¥öÜΓ möδεM Θ∩ δΓÜgs
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2718
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 09/04/93 9:59a
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-29-1993, TOM ARRUDA wrote...
TA> I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running
TA> from a Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with
TA> the drive. It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run
TA> in Windows. I have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle"
TA> that run under dos, both lock up and halt the entire system. I am
TA> using a 486dx33 with 8megs of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0,
TA> Norton SpeedCache 4.0. I need the number for Creative Labs BBS. Any
TA> help would be GREATLY appreciated.
I think I remeber hearing a fair while back people having problems with
Nortons Speedcache and the way it handles itse or Hyperdisk and see if the
probs go away... Anyway, just a bit of a stab in the dark.
Marc.
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From: RALPH BUTTIGIEG Number: 2719
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 8:03p
Subj: CREAM IN AUSTRALIA! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
%%%%%%%%%%% CREAM OF THE CROP IS NOW AVAILABLE IN AUSTRALIA! %%%%%%%%%%
The best one disk shareware CDROM is now available in Australia. Cream of
the Crop has no GIFs, no music, and no adult files, just more then 600megs
of the best shareware software around. Not only is there a easy to use
front end program but it has been specially designed for BBS use. It will
instantly install on Maximus, RA, Spitfire, Quick BBS and PC Board.
Price :$55.00
Freq CREAM.ARJ from 3:713/635 for more details or ring Vulcan's World BBS.
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From: SIMON MACKAY Number: 2720
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 7:56p
Subj: SB Pro SCSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** CROSS-POST TO CD-ROM Echo ************
RH>Oh great just what i don't want! One SB-Pro 100% clone with Aztec chip
RH>the Sound Galaxy NX Pro. Sound Blaster, Sound Blaster Pro, Covox Speec
RH>Disney Sound System, Adlib 100% compatible. Has CD-rom interface for A
RH>Can ad chip to enable SCSI bus interface as well. $220 for it as new i
RH>with manual and most of its warrenty. Ph (02) 744-2486 or netmail. Don
RH>or need as have a PAS16 which i'm happy with.
RH>---
Where can you get the SCSI chip to convert an ordinary AT-BUS SBPro CD
interface into a SCSI SB-Pro CD interface?
Is the SCSI conversion ASPI compatible? Will there be an adapter to suit
external SCSI devices?
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2721
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/04/93 3:03p
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ST> Hi all,
ST>
ST> I am running the 7th Guest on a CR-562-B and a Sound Blaster 16.
ST> The game runs fine BUT the music is so loud I can barely hear the
ST> characters talking in the game. Does anyone else have this problem
ST> ? Could it be due to the fact that the game is using a Sound
ST> Blaster Pro OPL/3 driver that is not entirely compatible with the
ST> SB16.
I have a PAS16 myself, but with the SB16 you should be able to set the
volume levels of the mixer from all different sources, for example
with the PAS16 i can set the FM volume, the DIgital volume, in cd-input
volume (and a heap more), i'd say you have to lower the FM volume
before you play T7G, make a batch file to do this (check up your
utilities that came with the SB16), its much easier.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2722
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/06/93 6:10p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AQ> -=> Quoting Eric Hsiao to Andre Queree <=-
AQ>
AQ> EH> Who cares if it isn't compatible with the SB16. The SB16 came out
AQ> EH> after the PAS-16 and the PAS-16 has the upperhand for 16-bit sound.
AQ> EH> There aren't any games that support the SB16 but not the PAS-16.
It's
AQ> EH> not a limiting factor at all. The PAS-16 is still a great card.
AQ>
AQ> I didn't mention the SB16 - I said it wasn't compatible with the
AQ> SB Pro. There IS a fair bit of software which supports the SB Pro,
AQ> and an PAS-16 user who boasts about how great his card is is still
AQ> only going to get low quality mono sound out of these games.
Sometimes I wish the PAS16 didnt have SB emulation and make the bloddy
game makers support the card fully!, instead of crappy mono SB arrgh!
-Robert
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2723
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/07/93 8:59p
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Les!
On 09-04-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to Rowan Evans...
LR> PL> The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than
LR> PL> what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo,
LR> PL> from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :).
LR>
LR> Once again, you are in Australia, so pricing is different.
That's right - and as such it makes your type of operation with one
caddy per CD-ROM just so much pixie dust!
LR> RE> Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case,
LR> RE> open new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple,
LR> RE> foolproof process...
LR> RE> No hassles!
LR>
LR> It is neither simple nor foolproof, and requires at
LR> least twice the number of steps that the caddies do. Some
LR> cases are difficult to open. Once opened, extracting the
LR> CD can be hazardous both from the perspective of
LR> fingerprints and from the possibility of dropping the Cd
LR> while trying to extract it. Most jewel cases tend to hang
LR> on to the CD rather firmly, and getting it out can be a
LR> minor hassle.
That's so, but most do give up gracefully if you hold the
jewel case in one hand and place your thumb on the centre of the
CD-ROM, pressing down on the retaining tags and lift up with your
index finger..... I have seen lots of people struggle with CDs and
CD-ROMs trying to lift them out with thumb on one side and index
finger on the other - the retaining tabs hold tight!
LR> RE> BTW, if you have an audio CD player, is it a caddy type or a tray
LR> RE> type??
LR>
LR> I have several, and they all use caddies. The six
LR> disk magazines are even cheaper than the singe caddy, at $8
LR> for a magazine. OTOH, the audio CD's are much cheaper in
LR> general than the data CD's.
There again I have had both... Whilst I like the benefit of 6 hours
of music, I like to vary the music and its a bit hard to select the
type of music when you put CDs into a magazine.... I find that, unless
its for a party, I put two or three CDs in a cartridge and remove them
when finished....
What we have is a fundamental disagreement re caddies, etc and your saying
that caddy prices are cheap in the US makes little sense to someone in
Australia that *HAS* to pay $A15.00 per caddy.....
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2724
To: JOE SLIFER Date: 09/07/93 9:05p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Joe!
On 09-03-93 Joe Slifer wrote to Rowan Evans...
JS> Hi Rowan!
JS>
JS> RE> Nope, just stick the 8-bit paddle card back in and lose a slot!
JS> RE> In fact I'm thinking of using a PAS16 with the
JS> RE> next CR562B as it doesn't have the
JS> RE> annoying sound dropouts in the speech of T7G!
JS>
JS> An 8-bit card comes with a *double* speed drive? How does this affect
JS> the drives performance?
Someone posted to me that the SB Pro, etc interface was only 8 bit anyway!
But performance is not affected (well is *IS* down on that experienced
when the drive is attached to an SB Pro, etc) and benchmarks return
figures that match the spex....
JS> I was seriously considering this drive for the ejectable tray
JS> feature plus of course the *bang* for the buck.
Buy one! You won't be sorry!
JS> Is the 450ms access in double-speed mode
JS> noticeable plus the afore mentioned card. Thank
Not really! The access speed seemed, in double speed mode, to be as fast
as the SONY CDU-31A I had, and it was better than 450ms... maybe the
spex were stated on the conservative side.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2725
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 09/07/93 9:19p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
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Hi Louis!
On 09-04-93 Louis Ghinis wrote to Darrell Davis...
LG> -> >-> I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I
LG> -> >-> ordered it >-> directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail
LG> -> stores seem to have >-> older packages on the shelves. The package
LG> -> was $399 with $9 >-> shipping. > > That was a typo you said 800ms
LG> -> there ok that sounds right.
LG> -> I don't understand what you are trying to say. Mine is not a
LG> -> typo.
LG> -> The drive is a 380ms drive.
LG>
LG> It must be a typo the panasonic 562b/563 drives have 320ms access
LG> time not 380ms unless thats not the drive you get with it?
There are various Fusion CD16 kits around.... of the ones I have seen
advertised, the real cheap ones have either the SONY CDU-31A or a
Philips drive in them, the more expensive ones use an NEC CDR-74-1 drive....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2726
To: BRAD LEWIS Date: 09/07/93 9:28p
Subj: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C Refer: NONE
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Hi Brad!
On 09-04-93 Brad Lewis wrote to All...
BL> About a year ago I purchased a SBPro mutimidia kit with an
BL> Internal CD-Rom drive Model 521C and You would not believe
BL> the different stories I get as I go from store to store
BL> with my question.
BL> I have been told that Creative Labs still includes the
BL> same CD-rom drive in the kit as it did back then.
BL> I have my doubts. I bought Nightowl 9 and found I could not read it;
BL> so, I began my quest to find out why.
Sorry to hear about your woes!
Some of the older SB MM kits are still available, but the newer kits
incluse the Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive.... I have its OEM cousin here,
the CR562B and it runs Night Owl 9 fine!
The problems with some CD-ROMs occur due to the fact that some (Mitsumis,
CR521s, some SONY CDU-31As) are unable to acess the inner track of the
CD....
Someone told me that this is the starting point for the CD, not the outer
edge of the CD.... sounds plausible....
Find a dealer and trade-in your CR521 for a CR562B/CR563 and you'll be
sweet.... double speed drive with 320ms avg access and a motorised tray...
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2727
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 09/07/93 9:33p
Subj: Sb-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Steve!
On 09-01-93 Steve Goyer wrote to All...
SG> So, if I have a SoundBlaster-16 (which I will soon have) I
SG> can just hook the CD ROM into the card, right?
Sure can - if its a Panasonic!
Either the CR52x series (single speed) or CR56x series (double speed)
are compatible!
My advice - grab a CR562B from a dealer near you! A lot of dealers post
in this echo and you should be able to grab one for around $US280.00...
Cheers!
o
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2728
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/07/93 8:44a
Subj: Re: KQ5 & SQ4 CD's Refer: NONE
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-=> and Ismail Arslangiray was heard mumbling to Sean Tudor <=-
IA> Hi,
IA> You need and updated driver. (I assume you are suing SB - 562 combo).
IA> TTYL
IA> GroupWare
Thanks Ismail - I am trying to contact Ozisoft for the updated drivers.
Cya,
Sean.
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From: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Number: 2729
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 2:59p
Subj: Aust CD Seller. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone tell me about a good CD-ROM distributer?... I am moslty interseted
in Cd's filled with vga 1024x768 grahpic's......... gifs.
Vz thanks..
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 2730
To: ALL AUSTRALIAN READERS Date: 09/07/93 1:49a
Subj: Cd-rom Special Offer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Special Offer for BBS users only! Join the Australian CD-ROM Club before
the end of September and you will receive a FREE CD-ROM with your first
order. A small annual investment of $25 entitles you to:
o Huge catalogue regularly delivered to your home. You can choose from
more than 300 titles, with descriptions of most titles to make the
choice easier. You will have Access to over 1000 titles.
o 10% discount on all your CD-ROM software purchases made through your
club.
o To stay up to date with what's occuring in CD-ROM through your
regular newsletter.
o Freecall (008) 811190 mail ordering for your convenience.
Call today to join! (008) 811190 or FAX (06)2914591, CITACT BBS
(06)2928288
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2731
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/07/93 6:34p
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-05-93 Laurie Batt wrote to David Winger...
LB> G'day David, In a message on <Sep 04>, you said :
LB>
LB>
LB> DW> On 09-03-93 Tony Stott wrote to David Winger...
LB> DW>
LB> TS>> On 08-31-93, David Winger elucidated to Sunny Leung:
LB> TS>>
LB> TS>> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
LB> TS>> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
LB> TS>>
LB> TS>> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to
LB> TS>> produce your own one-off cdrom disks
LB> DW> A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
LB> DW> ^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
LB>
LB> A worm drive is not the same as CDROM
LB> The media used is different to the cdrom and therefore
LB> cannot be used in a cdrom drive.
LB> The Writable CDROM may be able to Write Once and Read Many
LB> but is not WORM , which is a different size disk.
LB> TS>> Guess what? WRONG AGAIN! You are describing floptical
LB> TS>> technology, magneto optical disks do not work that way,
LB> TS>> neither do cdroms.
LB> DW>
LB> DW> Sorry, Right again!
LB> DW> I never said CD-ROMS work that way. Read the message again.
LB> DW> Flopticals and Magneto Optical Disks are supposed to be the
LB> DW> same thing.
LB>
LB> NO not true
LB>
LB> DW> THE SYSGEN FLOPTICAL
LB> DW> A normal floppy drive just steps the heads across
LB> DW> the disk in preset increments. At the same time
LB> DW>
LB> DW> It should also be noted that floptical drives can
LB> DW> read standard 1.44 meg and 720k 3.5" floppy disks.
LB> DW>
LB>
LB> You have described a floptical.
LB> The Magneto Optical is a totally different thing and not in
LB> any way related to the floptical which is only available in
LB> 20MB and 128MB flavours. The Magneto optical is in the
LB> 500MB+ range. The Media used is also totally different
LB> .Uses the laser to free up an element which can be changed
LB> magnetically.
Oh shit! Now I am realy confused!
I get all my info from magazines. If they get it wrong, how am I
supposed to get it right?
Thanks for putting things right for me!
\ /
Dave (oo)
~~
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2732
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/05/93 9:44p
Subj: Re: Cdrom systems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-
BO> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S
BO> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00
etc etc etc.
BO> Boris Osadciw
Hi Boris,
Please explain about "KIT" What do you get for $195.00 ?
TM.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 2733
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/05/93 10:28a
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AQ>I didn't mention the SB16 - I said it wasn't compatible with the SB P
AQ>There IS a fair bit of software which supports the SB Pro, and an PAS
AQ>who boasts about how great his card is is still only going to get low
AQ>mono sound out of these games.
Even the best Stereo sound from the FM based soundcards you are talking
about is pretty ordinary. Wavetable cards sound tons better.
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From: JACQUES LEGRAND Number: 2734
To: DON RIEB Date: 09/06/93 9:38p
Subj: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send it to Jacques Legrand
2155 rue Dickson, Sillery, QUEBEC, G1T 1C8 , Canada
Thanks.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2735
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/08/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> Give me a break! A person buys a 200.00 cd rom and can't
DP> afford the 5.00 for an extra caddy? When the software costs
DP> from 10-100 a disk, an extra 5.00 for the added convience
DP> of a caddy is hardly prohibitive.
RE> Well, a *CHEAP* CD-ROM drive in Australia is around the $A400.00 mark
RE> and what appears to me to happen is that a lot of users want to try the
RE> technology and, because the CD-ROM is a close relative to the Audio CD,
RE> they *EXPECT* that a CD-ROM drive will have a tray.
1. Then they deserve what they get for failing to do a minimal amount
of research before buying a product.
2. All of my audio CD's have magazines, and have for years.
RE> I had, as previously related to another person in this echo, a bad
RE> experience with an older type caddy CD-ROM drive and vowed then and
RE> there *NEVER* to buy a CD-ROM drive that used a caddy....
Folly persists, despite efforts to eradicate it. Abrogating a superior
technology in favor of an inferior one because of a poor purchasing decision,
is downright silly.
RE>
RE> I have (I just counted them!) 21 CD-ROMs here... If I had a caddy type
RE> drive and did as you suggested, that would be an additional $A105.00
I have over 250 CD's, both audio and CD-ROM, and each and every one is
in a caddy. Admittedly, the 6-CD magazines are somewhat cheaper per CD than
the single tray caddy, but when I had a single CD drive, I had a caddy for each
title.
Les
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 2736
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/05/93 4:29p
Subj: Panasonic Cr562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>you will probably treat it very delicately and will most likely never
>damage one of your CD's inserting it in and out of a CDROM with a
>motorized tray. In the seven years I have been purchasing music CDs
>using portable and car CD players I have yet to trash my first CD.
There's quite a bit of difference. You may have in fact at one point
or another slightly damaged one of your music CDs, but the only effect
will likely have been a tiny skip in the music. The same sort of damage
to a CD-ROM disc however may affect crucial data, making the difference
between a program that runs and one that doesn't...
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2737
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 11:34a
Subj: SHAREWARE PHOTO CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To everyone with Photo CD compatible drives:
I have found two shareware programs that allow viewing of Kodak Photo CD's
on you PC. They are PaintShop Pro 2.0 and Graphics Workshop 1.1e.
Sam
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From: TOM MILLER Number: 2738
To: DON RIEB Date: 09/08/93 3:57p
Subj: New Free Cdrom Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>If you would like to be on the mailing list for the printed catalog send
your
DR>name and address to 1:115/724 or write:
Please put me on your mailing list
Tom Miller
P.O. Box 1089
Marrero, La 70073
Tom Miller
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 2739
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/08/93 2:41p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello NEIL!
07 Sep 93, NEIL BERGMAN writes to LANGSTON GOLDFINCH:
->> 1:396/17 or leave number and name to p'req.
NB> Better yet, leave me a mailing address and I'll mail you a
snail: 220 Helena St.
New Orleans, La. 70119-4332
Regards
Langston
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From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 2740
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/07/93 12:46p
Subj: MITSUMI Refer: NONE
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BF*->Why not?
BF*-> Folks have been harrassing the American "esoteric audio" mags that have
BF*->claimed the same stupid stuff....
To be honest, I haven't delved into the Japanese rags for quite some
time, but they certainly need to be harrassed. Several years back
when I was shopping for components, I found a number of U.S.
magazines (*Stereo Review*, etc.) that at least tried to add some
degree of numerical "precision" to their tests by providing lab
data. Here, all (well, at least almost all) I could find was
amateurish sequential listening tests "designed" to determine, e.g.,
the difference in "sound quality" between differing models of CD
player. And that was back in the "early" days of CD, when there was
far less difference in the technology used between the various
players than there is even today.
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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK Number: 2741
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:40a
Subj: OS/2 and Sony CD Player Refer: NONE
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Hello everyone, I need some help..
Does anyone know where I can get a OS/2 driver for the Sony CDU6250
running on the CDB-242 card. I've just starting using OS/2 2.1 and can't
get the CD's to work, This is the Sony twinpack..
Thanks for any and all help.
Patrick..
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: GAETANO CALIA Number: 2742
To: BERTRAND SCHMITT Date: 09/05/93 7:10p
Subj: Re: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
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BS> I'm thinking of buying the Sound Blaster 16ASP Multimedia Upgrade Kit.
BS> Up to now, I was only able to find a 16 without the ASP version.
I ordered it in Germany and I am very impressed by the whole kit ! It's
called SOUND BLASTER CD16 ASP Edutainment Kit. You can have the Business
Version if you like, ask the folks there.
WIAL Versand
Groebenzell
Phone: 0049-8142-9011-8079-8273
Fax : 0049-8142-54654
The whole set will cost 1099.- DM, plus shipping 20 DM, plus duty 90 Swiss
Francs.
You can buy it in Switzerland at the InterDiscount, but Swiss prices are
ridiculous !!!
Greets, Gaetano
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From: GAETANO CALIA Number: 2743
To: TOM ARRUBA Date: 09/05/93 7:26p
Subj: CR-562 probs Refer: NONE
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TA>I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from
TA>Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the drive
TA>It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in Windows.
Tom !!!!! Hold it right there !!! I got the SB CD16 Edutainment Kit with
the CR-563-B drive and the SB 16 ASP. Whenever I want to see just any
video clip from within a CD (The Animals or The Multimedia Encyclopedia)
I get the following message: "MMTASK caused a general protection failure
in module MSVIDC.DRV at xxxx:xxxx (address number here)..".
I then get to choose between IGNORE or CLOSE. Now when I choose IGNORE
three times in a row, then I get to see the clips, otherwise the programs
just stop and the system hangs...
The MSVIDC.DRV is the Video for Windows Compressor 1. I tried everything,
new setups, new configurations, new VGA-drivers, new installations, even
a new VGA-card and even a re-installation of Windows, a new CMOS setup
and all that sh.t ! Still nothing ! I started to think that I was the only
one to have that kind of problem...
TA>have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run under dos
TA>both lock up and halt the entire system.
I had some DOS-CD's, but they seemed to work perfect. The only problem
I got is the damned Video-clips under Windows...
TA> I am using a 486dx33 with 8m of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0,
I got a 386/33 with 4 MB RAM, smartdrv.sys and MSCDEX 2.2
RP> The number for Creative Labs BBS is (405)742-6660.
My manual (April 1993) says the following:
Creative Labs, Inc. Technical Support
1523 Cimarron Plaza, Stillwater, OK 74975, USA
Phone: (405) 742 66 22
Fax : (405) 742 66 33
BBS : (408) 428 66 60
Tom, if you could please relate to me what you found out ! I can't afford
long distance calls for long talks since I'm in Switzerland...please ?
You're my very last hope, since nobody here seems to understand that
failure !!!
Thank you very much, Gaetano
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From: GAETANO CALIA Number: 2744
To: SCOTT HOLMES Date: 09/05/93 7:31p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 563 & sb16 asp Refer: NONE
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Hi Scott
SH> I plan to purchase a CD-ROM drive and the Panasonic seems like the one
SH> for me (probably the 563), but I am wondering if peoople with games
SH> from LucasArts (Day of the tentical...) on CD have had sound trouble.
I never ever had any trouble playing any game from any company with my
SB CD 16 Edutainment Kit (CR-563B and SB 16 ASP). The only problem I
have that really bugs me, is that I seem not to be able to run video clips
from CD in Windows without getting the boring "protection failure"....
Greetings, Gaetano
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From: PHILIP CROOKES Number: 2745
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/06/93 7:45p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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DR >We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
What do you think is immoral in this context?
*Philip*
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From: DOUG ALLAN Number: 2746
To: ANDY MORRISON Date: 09/03/93 8:41a
Subj: CD-rom Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I reckon you should go for the Minerva CD Myself, but its up to you.
doug
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2747
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/07/93 9:54p
Subj: Re: ProPhone 94 Refer: NONE
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In a message to BORIS OSACDIW <09-05-93 22:31> Stewart Rothman wrote:
SR> Also, I've been looking for a medical-type CD, not necessarily with
SR> medical symptoms and complaints, but a complete listing of
SR> prescription drugs and possible reactions/complications and a listing
SR> of other prescriptions/drugs that could react or inter-react with
SR> those.
Your best bet would be the Physician's Desk Reference, although I don't know
what it costs. Probably quite a bit, relative to other titles on the market.
Next time you go to the Doctor, look at his bookshelf, if you can, and you're
almost sure to find a copy of the bound version of PDR. The PDR is the
"industry standard."
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2748
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:58p
Subj: Toshiba 3301b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have one demo unit... Toshiba XM-3301b (internal) for sale. It is the bare
drive... purchaser needs to supply a SCSI adapter and cable. Looking for
$329.
Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)
1:344/79 (FidoNet)
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From: PETER SAMULEVICH Number: 2749
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 3:02a
Subj: Hitachi Drivers for OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I hope someone can help me with a little problem I'm having with my
CD-ROM. I have a Hitachi 1700S (non-SCSI) CD-ROM drive and just
recently switched over to OS/2 2.1. For some reason I figured that the
DOS drivers would work in OS/2, but they do not. When I tried to pick
CD ROM drivers from the OS/2 setup, only the SCSI were found.
I've seen many drivers on various boards for non-SCSI CD-ROMS under
OS/2, but no Hitachi. When I called Hitachi, I kept getting the
run-around and 5 or 6 different phone numbers to call in order to get
"information." It seems that no one over at Hitachi could tell me
anything useful.
Does anyone have the drivers for the Hitachi 1700S? I would be more
than happy to call your board and d/l them, or FREQ them from you. As
it stands right now, I have to use a VDM to use the CD-ROM and there's
a lot of software that I really cannot use because of this. HELP!!!
Thanks,
Peter
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 2750
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 11:10p
Subj: Technical Shareware on CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here's a brief view of technical software on recent CD-ROMs.
EMS Professional Shareware - voice:301-924-3594 Fax:301-963-2708
Free brochure/catalog will tell you more.
EMS SMS3 Pier2 SS2 NOwl9 Win93 SV2
Access 175
Assembler 391 17 15
C/C++ 987 98 288 216
AutoCAD 820 51 45 30 34
Xbase 2983 53 83 82 502
Netware 801 58 48 42 172
ObjectVision 91
OS/2 302
Paradox 490
Sci/Eng 113 53 38 25 85
SmallBusiness 238
Spreadsheet 325 11 55 15 50 27
TrueType 752 218 112 749
TurboPascal 680 67 264 30 169
VBasic Windows 425 59 130
VBDOS/QB/PDS 224 130
Windows Utils 705 Mixed
EMS Professional Shareware, 7'93 (Oct. edition ships in three weeks)
SMS3 - So Much Shareware #3
SS2 - Shareware Studio #2
NOwl9 - NightOwl #9
Win93 - Windows 1993
SV2 - Software Vault #2
** Directories don't exactly match, but this should give you a feel for
differences.
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 2751
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/08/93 7:34a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 06 10:16, Robert Prohl of 1:124/5125 wrote:
RP> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it
RP> as the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable
RP> for teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured
RP> I could just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
RP> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense
RP> when autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
Robert,
It is a lot easier to troubleshoot problems in the autoexec when we can
browse it. You don't have to add anything to the mscdex line if you don't
want. It will set itself to the next available drive letter.
Kevin
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2752
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 09/09/93 8:15p
Subj: Sb-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Steve,
> So, if I have a SoundBlaster-16 (which I will soon have) I can
> just hook the CD
> ROM into the card, right?
Depends on the type of CDROM you want to use.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2753
To: DAVID CHILDRESS Date: 09/09/93 8:24p
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David,
> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and singlesession?
Single-session: The drive can only (fully) read CDROM's that have
only one 'index', e.g. cd's that are written in 'one time'.
Multi-session: The drive can work with multiple 'indexes', that
are used for cd's where data is added to.
When the data is added, there is also an 'index' added, because
the already existing 'index(es)' can't be changed.
An example of an multi-session CDROM is a photo-CD where the pictures
are not put on all at once, but in several 'sessions'.
> 2). Is there any problem hooking up a SCSI compatable CD-ROM
> system to a IDE type computer?
That fully depends on de SCSI-controller you want to use, and I
don't have any experience with SCSI (it's a shame).
> 3). Does anyone have a good recommendation on a CD-ROM
> system\bundle?
Just keep reading this echo...
Discussions and recommendations enough.
> 4). What should be considered the minimum access times to look
> for?
350mS is about de slowest access time you'd want to look for.
(slower drivers then 350mS are hard to find anyway).
> 5). Anything else you care to mention that would be helpful?
When you want to play lots of big adventures and view smooth graphics,
consider some of the double-speed drives (altough they aren't quite
cheap).
Bye,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2754
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/11/93 12:00a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; Sound Board Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Scoot,
> 1) Can I access audio CD's with only the interface card that
> comes with the drive?
With the use of some player-program (comes with the drive): Yes
> 2) Is the supplied interface card all I need to access such
> ROM's as encyclopedias, etc., or will I need a sound card? In
> particular, will I have to have a sound board to access sound
> files and graphics in an encyclopedia?
You can play the sound from the CD directly, but to play for
example WAV-files, you wil need a sound card after all.
> 3) If I get a sound card, and I want 16-bit audio with editing
> capability, what is the way to go?
There are A LOT of ways to go...
There a so many card, with so many specifications ...
> 4) If I get a sound card with a SCSI port built in, will the
> SCSI port work with the Mitsumi drive and allow me to get rid of
> the drive's dedicated IF?
Mitsumi isn't equipped with SCSI, so the answer is NO.
To save a slot, you could buy a soundcard with an Mitsumi-compatible
CD-interface (My Sound Galaxy NX Pro 16 work nice with my Mitsumi
drive).
> This is a somewhat confusing area for a novice. I'd appreciate
> any input. Thanks.
You're welcome.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2755
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 09/11/93 12:00a
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Daniel,
> My brother has found that some of his games (especially Sherlock
> Holmes II) don't sound very good on his 8-bit Sound Blaster. He
> was wondering if switching to a 16-bit card would make these
> games sound better even if they aren't written specifically for a
> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
> 8-bit card sound better?
Besides perhaps the quality of the built-in amplifiers, theoretically
there shouldn't be any difference, as long as the software doesn't
even asks what sound-card is used.
> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
So has the Pro Audio Spectrum (SB 2.0 compatible, I'm told by very
reliable sources).
> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
Wel, in the Sound Blaster 16 there seems to be an empty socket, where
the ASP-chip belongs. I don't know what the ASP-chip exactly does.
Some PAS-users probably can answer the other question.
> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
I'm not for sure, but I thought the driver doesn't need to stay
resident. But, some PAS-users might be better informed at this
point too.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2756
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/11/93 12:00a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Robert,
> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
> the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
> teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I could
> just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
You shouldn't need to change a thing.
(Just make sure your Lastdrive=?? is at least E..)
> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
> autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
We'll need more info to figure out that error.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2757
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/07/93 9:43a
Subj: ECHO CHANGES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>I think your ideas for both this and the "for sale" echo are right
BJ>on target, Bob. I support you and Tim agreeing to make this switch on
BJ>Oct. 1.
Thanks for your support.
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2758
To: DAVE TERRELL Date: 09/07/93 9:43a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DT>Hello Bob...couldn't agree with you more. Expanding to another form of CDRO
DT>echo can only help those of us that don't understand all there is about it.
DT>know the other echo would be for advertising, but then it would free this on
DT>of the multitude of advertising that is done on it! I am not complaining ab
DT>the advertising as it is a very useful tool for competition and helps us all
DT>find the best seller with the best price. This echo could also include any
DT>problems or fixes and/or opinions on software too! We all like to hear abou
DT>games and programs before we buy them. That's business. Great idea and tha
DT>to you I'm sure things will only get better.....DAVE
Thanks for your support
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2759
To: DICK HUDDLESTON Date: 09/07/93 9:56a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DH>However, I AM concerned about stuffing Multimedia into this echo. I
Well, I think there would be room. Dunno, have been wrong before, and
have the possiblity of being wrong again.
But, I'd like to try it and see.....
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2760
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/07/93 10:42a
Subj: ANATOMIST¬ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM>I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled "Anatomist¬" by Folkstone
MM>Design Inc.. Request pricing and shipping info...tks..m2
MM>--- MacWoof 1.5.3
MM> * Origin: Fairfax, VA/michael.mulcahy@his.com (1:109/70.986@fidonet)
HEY! Don't do this again! One message is/was plenty!
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2761
To: MICHAEL OUJESKY Date: 09/07/93 10:42a
Subj: CDROM ECHO FALLS OFF BACK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MO>According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo (CDROM) has fallen of th
MO>echolist and will be removed from the backbone.
Check again.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2762
To: GORD DAVIS Date: 09/07/93 10:43a
Subj: CDROM ECHO FALLS OFF BACK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GD> That's a drag, I just linked to this echo...any reason for the removal?
The echo is not being dropped.
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: MIKE MORGAN Number: 2763
To: BORIS OSACDIW Date: 09/08/93 6:32a
Subj: CD order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boris, well it has been over a month now and I still haven't got the CD's
I sent you a money order for. Have you got any news for me it has been a over
a week since my last long distance phone call to you.
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From: DAVID HUTTON Number: 2764
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 11:48p
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a couple of the BSR CD drives that have SONY
CDU-6201-10 on the bottom. They were sold by DAK about a year or so
ago. You can reach me here or at my BBS 307-637-5930. Thanks
David
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From: PAUL LAWRENCE Number: 2765
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:18p
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HELLO ANYONE THAT HAS A SHAREWARE CD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF JUST
WRITE ME OR CALL ME AT SPLINTERS! MULTI-BBS AT 813-458-5399 AND LEAVE ME A
MESSAGE AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU THANX .
PAUL....
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From: GIL MACHIN Number: 2766
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/08/93 5:13p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Think Hard Now! Which One is Shinola?
SC>I'm thinking of buying one of the inexpensive Mitsumi CD
SC>ROM drives I've seen advertised and, despite having read
SC>several articles, I'm confused as to what a person needs in
SC>the way of interface hardware to use such a drive. If
SC>anyone knows about this stuff, leave me a message about the
SC>following questions:
Scott:
I have a Mitsumi LU 005S (latest I think?) I will try to answer some of
your questions. New to this myself(3Mo.)
#1 Yes you can. The drive has a 1/8 inch stereo jack on the front panel
along with a volume control. You can listen with headphones. On the
interface card there are two RCA jacks, Right/Left channel line out. These
maybe hooked up to a stereo amp. or using a RCA to 1/8 inch mini phone
plug to go into a sound card.
#2. I think you need a sound card to hear sounds from a MPC compliant
disk. If you just want to read text, or look at graphics/photo a sound
card is not required. On games I think a sound card is required to get
full enjoyment from games, both on CD-ROM and floppy. A sound card will
add a lot.
#3 I will pass on this one. I have a SBPro 8 bit. I do not do any editing.
This card meets my modest needs for sound.
#4 The Mitsumi uses a non SCSI proprietary IF. There are a few cards that
will control the Mitsumi directly. I do not remember what ones. I think
a sound Galaxy or something like that does control the Mitsumi. I know
that somebody will answer you.
A last thought. I bought my Mitsumi because bat the time it was the the
only drive that was MPC complaint for under US$200. There is a much better
drive available For around US$250. This drive is a Panasonic(sp) #562B-563
that will transfer data twice as fast as the Mitsumi 150k/s to the 562B's
300k/sec The Panasonic maybe a much better drive for a few $ more.
Gil Machin.
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN Number: 2767
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 7:55a
Subj: Cd rom dealers wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All,
We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in
marketing and/or bundling commercial, shareware, and adult CDROM software
titles. We offer a complete list of popular titles along with competitive
pricing.
If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated CDROM
215-275-3657 voice or 215-276-3854 fax (Principals Only).
Thanks,
Gary
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2768
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/08/93 1:12a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC> MS> Do you have anything newer? <g d & r>
DC>Phoenix 4.0 and lots more <g>.
Well, I have Phoenix 4.0's in stock and they're showing lots of '91 and '92
files. Nice CD, but not very new if you ask me, at least in comparison to
Night Owl 9 which is entirely 1993. So I'll ask you again: At the time
when I placed my Night Owl ad (about 2 weeks ago) did you have anything
newer?? Granted, you may have some newer stuff now, as some of the new
titles start to trickle in, but I'd like to know what "newer" titles you
had in mind when you dismissed Night Owl 9 as being somewhat "dated".
Again Doug, the date here is important: As of Aug. 23rd (roughly), what
shareware CD's were on the market that offered newer files than Night Owl
9? I'm not saying there weren't any, just curious which titles you were
referring to.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2769
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 1:12a
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #4: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! |
Q & A 4.0...........$34 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$20 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Return to the Moon..$26 Find-It Webster.....$38 Great Wonders.......$32
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2770
To: GIAN BISATZ Date: 09/06/93 2:00p
Subj: CD-Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GB>switzerland, I would appreciate to get some FREE catalogs & pricelists
GB>of what you have in stock.
GB>
GB>My address:
GB>
GB>Gian A. Bisatz
GB>Haedilochstrasse 47
GB>CH-8867 Niederurnen
GB>Switzerland
GB>
GB>Thanx in advance
what would you like, hardware/software/both ??
any particular brand anmes of Hdwe ??
Toshiba/mitsumi are available
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From: DANIEL BAUER Number: 2771
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 1:44p
Subj: Problem with PHILIPS CM205 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a problem with that CD-ROM-drive: If I insert a musik-CD it plays it
perfectly. But if I insert a CD-ROM it does not accept it. The LED lights
yellow and after five or six seconds it changes to red. I have used two CD-ROMs
which are full in order. I used a free IRQ for it, so nothing can be wrong. Is
it ruined?
I hope you can understand my horrible english!
Hope for help.
Bye
Daniel
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From: NICK FUNK Number: 2772
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/08/93 6:27a
Subj: Precision Mapping CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep 06 21:54>, Jim Lambert of 1:18/10 writes:
JL>
JL> Precision Mapping - A complete mapping program that includes
JL> street-level maps of the entire continental United States on two
JL> CD-Rom discs. The end-user can view, edit, print, and query
JL> map data at any scale from the entire U.S. down to a city
JL> block. Look up addresses, measure distances, plan out travel
JL> routes, print out laser quality maps, clip raster images for
JL> import to other packages, create your own customized maps of
JL> virtually any type or scale...and much more! This is version
JL> 1.5 with improved online help. This set also includes the
JL> American Business Phonebook CD-Rom. Price
JL> $85.00
Jim can Precision Mapping be exported into a cad program such as
Generic Cadd or AutoCadd? I am looking for a mapping database that
includes the rural (boonies) sections of southern Louisiana.
By chance does the maps include additional information such as street
names, rivers, railroads and such?
Is this database setup so it can be expanded?
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From: PAUL OUTERSON Number: 2773
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 11:27a
Subj: DataCore CD's Online Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗
║ CALL DATACORE TODAY!!! ║
║ ║
║ New CD-ROM support has arrived! Now, DataCore has one of the ║
║ largest collections of Shareware and Adult CD-ROMs in the ║
║ greater Worcester Area. Over 650+ megs of 1992-93 vintage ║
║ shareware are now online via the NightOwl V. 9.0 CD-ROM. ║
║ ║
║ We also offer 700+ megs of Adult GIFs, TGAs, and other graphic ║
║ files including animations. EVERY CALLER is entitled to ║
║ CD-ROM access (Adult CD access, 18yrs or older please)! So, ║
║ if you're looking for a GREAT file collection and a GREAT ║
║ BBS, call DataCore today at 508-832-0935!!! See you there! ║
║ ║
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2774
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/05/93 2:40p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I know what you mean man, I just got Space Quest IV and its pretty good, I
somehow cannot stop buying Sierra games, I can't wait to get Police Quest 4
either, and I was going to buy King's Quest 6 CD, but I got the regular version
and beat that game so there is absolutely no reason why I should spend money on
it now, well anyway write back about some other games, C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2775
To: HOA HO Date: 09/05/93 2:42p
Subj: Re: Norton Speedcache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well thanx Hoa, but I don't think I wanna spend any money on caches anyway I
think I will realx with my Mitsumi with 350 ms and 150kb/sec transfer rate and
just got with that, and relax and once I have saved enough money I will go and
buy a faster better CD-ROM but for now I am happy, C-ya and write back. TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2776
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 09/04/93 3:08p
Subj: 386DX-40 ->486 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Lou...I read your message, and you said you want to upgrade to a 486...
If you want to upgrade to a 486 make sure its not a 486DX-25, SX-25, DX-33,
SX-33. If you upgrade to a 486-25, you will see no difference whatsoever. if
you goto a DX, SX-33 you will see little difference. But a DX2-66 or DX-50(Dont
go fer a DX2-50) will will see noticeable difference..
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From: VIC ALMEIDA Number: 2777
To: NICK FUNK Date: 09/05/93 8:50p
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dude' did this interface card come with the panasonic CD-ROM Drive ?
if so do you have the number that i can call to get a hold of panasonic?
Later...
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* Origin: ALIEN NATION, East Hartford, CT (203)290-8615 (1:142/320)
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From: ED TURNOCK Number: 2778
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 5:20p
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible system"? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Got a new "Power up" catalog today and it has some very good deals on CDROMS,
However, and you knew there had to be one, some of them are flagged as needing
a "MPC-compatible system".
Does anyone know what this is? I called the power up 800 number and the guy
that answered didn't know either, although he promised to find out and said if
I would call tomorrow he would know
Ed
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE Number: 2779
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/08/93 7:15p
Subj: Creative Labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RY>Anyone have the phone number for creative labs bbs here in the US?
408-428-6660
- Heather
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From: ALLEN FOGLESON Number: 2780
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:39p
Subj: Maximus/2 and CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there a "trick" to getting maximus/2 to recognize that I have a CD under
OS/2? OS/2 is finding my drive fine, but when I use siltp to compile the
fileareas it asks to make the CD-ROM directory!?! We have tried this on 2
seperate computers with both MAX/2 v. 2.0 and MAX/2 v. 2.01wb. One thing we did
find was that maximus 2.0 for DOS worked fine. Compiled the areas, and chugged
along fine. I should probably post this in the MUFFIN echo, but as yet we do
not receive it here in NET 920. (The vagaries of being in Panama with these
phone lines.) any help would be greatly appreciated. here are the stats on the
two computers we have tried it on.
1) Packard Bell 386/25. Sony CD-31A drive.
2) Home built 386/33. NEC SCSI with Adaptek Controller.
I have run simplex and had the CD δrking fine. And the NEC is δrking fine
in a DOS box with WILDCAT.
Al
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From: ALLEN FOGLESON Number: 2781
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 12:54a
Subj: OS/2 CD ROM with Maximus. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking to add a cd to my bbs, I cuurently have a Sony CD-31A but I am
loosing it soon. The one thing I want to ensure is that I will be able to
access the CD from Maximus. (RE: previous posting on problems) What is the best
one that will work with Maximus/2? I have been looking at the mitsumi... 200 is
hard to beat, I would prefer SCSI, but right now that is a bit out of my price
range.
Al
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2782
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/07/93 1:56p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
>This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads in any
>form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim Helton.
Hmmm - sounds like you've been talking to Randy Van De Loo, or Bob Compere, or
...
8-)
>Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also, as most people are either
>selling them, or wanting to buy them, and Tim has no objections to the topics
>of adult related material.
Tony Davis had some interesting comments on the subject and related at the One
BBS Con....
>I personally would like to make the above changes within the next 30 days
Given inertia, may take more like 6 months....
8-)
* SLMR 2.1a * Save the whales - harpoon a Moderator! 8-)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2783
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/07/93 1:58p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
>Please feel free to give me your input.
That reminds me - you apparently need to update your EchoList entry....
* SLMR 2.1a * Save laboratory animals - use lawyers instead!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 2784
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/08/93 7:14a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR> This CD has been going for as much as $450 so lets make a deal before it is
PR> gone.
PR>
PR> Pat
Busty babes going for $450.00 ?? I paid $25.00 for mine. ?? What gives ?
.....|<evin
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From: CHRIS BENN Number: 2785
To: SYSADMIN'S NIGHTMARE Date: 09/08/93 1:02a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What is the difference between red and orange standards for CD-Rom, also
is there another standard for CDV's? If you try and write audio to the
Phillips, do you have to feed it into a computer (digitize?) or can it
be fed from an outside source (eg. tape)?
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* Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY Number: 2786
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/08/93 6:53p
Subj: Special Cd-Rom Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR
NB> CREDIT CARDS
NB> $4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
NB>
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
NB> 1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
NB> LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
NB>
Hi, I would be interested in getting your catalog. Also, could you tell
me about shipping charges and other things to Canada?
My address is
Box 21, Site B
Verona, Ontario
Canada
K0H 2W0
Thanks.
Mike
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* Origin: DarkStar Systems * Kingston, Ont. (1:249/1)
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From: SHAWN MAZZUTO Number: 2787
To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 09/08/93 5:49p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Lon!
02 Sep 93 16:24, Lon Seidman wrote to Shawn Mazzuto:
LS> Do you plan on running both drives on the same system? If you have a
LS> standard SCSI port, you can use just about any drive on the same card as
LS> long as it is a SCSI drive. The CD-ROM driver NEC provides should
LS> recognize both drives without a problem.
Even if it's a Pioneer for argument sake?
Shawn
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From: ROBERT NEE Number: 2788
To: WILLIAM STEVENSON Date: 09/07/93 5:48p
Subj: Kings Quest V & SB16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WS> Hi
WS>
WS> I've just installed the SB 16 ASP, which works well (e.g. with 7th
WS> Guest).
WS>
WS> But when I install King's Quest 5 (bought December 1992) with
WS> sound blaster selected, I get a message 'can't initialize your music
WS> hardware'. However, it does run and produce music if I select
WS> Adlib.
WS>
WS> Is there a way to get KQ-V to drive the ASP?
WS>
WS> William
Call the sierra BBS. They have an updated driver for the sound blaster 16
and their newer games. The number is 209-683-4463
Robert F. Nee
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2789
To: ANTHONY PONTORIERO Date: 09/08/93 10:44a
Subj: Re: WRITE YOUR OWN CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Anthony Pontoriero to Jeff Weiss <=-
AP> How much for just a dupe of a cd I had made, The reason is
AP> because my machine gas broken!
We can cut the set-up charge in half if we can avoid dealing with tapes,
so that would be...
1/2 setup fee $25
one disc $100
----
$125
Please call to schedule a time.
Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
PO Box 4402
Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
(203) 759-0574
(203) 759-0553 fax
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2790
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 09/08/93 11:12a
Subj: Re: BBS CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ryan Mendel to Anyone <=-
RM> How do you load a CD program for a BBS, a CD like Phoniex?
RM> Do you have to load all the files and type in descriptions
RM> manually, or is there something on the CDs that
RM> automatically loads it to the BBS, making directories and
RM> things like that?? PLEASE help me, I would like to get it
RM> running on my BBS as soon as possilbe, thanks!
Most CDs written with the SysOp in mind already have at least one type
of BBS support file included in each directory. The better BBS programs
also support creating a type of "shadow" directory on the HD which
includes the description file but points to the CD-ROM.
If you have a lot of software on your hard drive already setup for
downloading, you can simply make a backup of these directories on tape
and send it to us to CREATE YOUR OWN CUSTOM CD.
The price for the service is $50 setup, and $100 per disc created minus
a $25 per disc SysOp discount. That's $125 to make one disc, $200 to make
two discs (back-up copy or maybe something special you can offer your
users that sets your board apart from the rest.
Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
PO Box 4402
Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
(203) 759-0574
(203) 759-0553 fax
Call first to discuss tape formats, etc.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 2791
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/08/93 6:26p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <09-06-93 09:57> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
IA>> Seems like both of your disk have legal problems and there is an
IA>> apperent piss contest. I am sorry but you guys need to handle your
IA>> own problems. I was only helping to another echo participant.
It's not about 'Piss' dear friend, its about a creditability issue with you
marketing a selling point of a disc that is not true--Informing sysops that the
disc is BBS ready only makes you look silly when they return it to you when
they realize that the disc is prohibited on the BBS--So all I was trying to do
is save you some embarrassment, realizing that you might not have known-- All I
was doing was helping a distributor correct some misleading information--Next
time I will consider the source, and perhaps piss in your cornflakes too :) You
annoy me !
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2792
To: JIM CONOVER Date: 09/08/93 10:55p
Subj: Re: WD7000 SCSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jim. I have a WD7000 with docs and software. Asking $125 for the works.
If you are interested you can leave a note here, call my board at
407-269-2169, or reach me voice at 407-267-4860 after 7 p.m. EDT.
Al Koller
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From: MICHAEL S. KELLEY Number: 2793
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/06/93 10:35p
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP>Hmmm... I already called them; they promised to mail me a copy. I
>GP>guess I'll find out. Do you recall what kinds of fonts were included
>GP>I wonder if they are ones that I don't have already (Too Many Typefon
>GP>CD-ROM).
TT>Most probably you don't miss those fonts then. None of them looks
>anything spectacular to me. Some names of the TT-fonts: Calisto,
>Headline, Photina Ultra Bold etc. Letraset type 1 fonts included are not
>better either.
TT>GP>TT>fonts. All the PC-Magazine utilities included are ages old (newer
>GP>TT>versions do exist!) and for example there is version 93 (I think)
>GP>TT>McAfees Scan when the current version is 107! All the other stuff
TT>GP>Golly, version 93 isn't worth much today, that's for sure.
TT>The magazine itself had lots of nice articles (although a little bit too
>English to my taste) but giving this kind of crap as a "valuable free
>present" is simply ridiculous. But then, we should remember that such a
>thing as free lunch does not exist. "Over 170 Mb of free software, tons
>of utilities, free fonts and full working models" that's how the
>PC-Magazine in question describes the CD included. ROTFL
TT>GP>Does one _have_ to use the silly and obnoxious installation procedure
>GP>or can you just try the programs on the disc as they are?
TT>Some of them you can try, yes. But finding the stuff from that jungle of
>subdirectories is not an easy task.
TT>GP>They promised to send me one. But thanks for the offer anyhow! :-)
TT>Don't be disappointed when you see it. At least it will be useful as
>a nice colourful coaster.
> .
> .
> .
>GP>The simple way to make sure you don't get stuck with bad caddies is t
>GP>ONLY BUY A CADDYLESS DRIVE. No reason to have to keep buying those
>GP>stupid caddies forever!
>GP>
>GP> CADDIES.... JUST SAY NO!
TT>Campaigning against caddies again? ;-) This is a matter of taste of
>course but I think that CD:s with caddies are something indespensable.
>CD-disks are not so fault tolerant after all. I do need regularly 3-4
>CD:s and have to switch between them often while I am working. Caddies
>cut unnecessary extra hassle of this process and I can freely keep those
>CD:s among all the stuff on my slightly over-crowded desk without
>needing to worry about damaging the disks. Of course this arrangement
>requires that you have an own caddy for each CD or at least for most
>frequently used ones.
TT>Also in a CD-ROM drive with a tray sliding in and out there are
>necessarily some extra very delicate precision components forming a
>potential source of troubles when the drive gets older and worn whereas
>drives with caddies are built mostly in very basic and sturdy way and
The only disadvantage of caddies is that they cost quite a lot but
compared to the price of a CD-disk it is after all almost acceptable.
I don't know how much you pay for caddies, but I get mine for $4.50
apiece. The only way I'll ever go is with a caddy. Seems to me the
only drives you see that don't use a caddy are the real cheap ones.
They are usually slow and don't offer even basic dust protection. There
is one manufacturer out there who claims "Patented Dust Protection". Ha
Ha Ha !!!
That's like saying I have Patented Nose Picking!
___
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From: MARTIN RACETTE Number: 2794
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 09/09/93 4:36a
Subj: Global Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM> BTW, do you have a CD called "Global Explorer" .. I think it is
GM> a "zoom to street level" global map. If you know it, does it have
GM> decent quality photo-reproduction maps and panning, and is it
GM> truly global (I'm in Australia)?
GM>
GM> Best Regards, Greg
Hi Greg
I answer about Global Explorer, I can tell you that is "really" global
including DOWN UNDER. You have 100 city map that you can zoom up to
street scale (you can alomost see car go through), over 10000 point of
interest and other stoff, plus some information about countries such as
economy, politics, geography and some. It really worth the price
$130.00cnd.
Regards
Martin
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From: TRAVIS MOGNET Number: 2795
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 3:26a
Subj: NightOwl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So, Who Where When and all that sorta stuff might I find NightOwl 9 ?
Travis Mognet
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 2796
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/08/93 3:57p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <05 Sep 93 14:11:06>, Rowan Evans (3:711/413) writes:
Not to pick on you, but you seem to be in the middle of all this talk about
caddies VS no caddy drives, can we drop it, PLEASE??? They both have thier
good and bad points and obviously this discussion is not getting any closer to
changing anybodies mind about whether or not to caddy.
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2797
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/08/93 8:20a
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR
NB> CREDIT CARDS $4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH
NB> ADDITIONAL DISC.
Hi Neil,
I'd like to get a catalog, O.K. ? My address is :
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 Lote 01 apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
CEP : 72115-075
Thanks,
Rodolfo Vaz
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2798
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/08/93 8:23a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
MS> (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50
MS> ea pc over 5 -!-
Could you send me a catalog ?
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 Lote 01 apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
72115-075
Thanks !
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil!
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From: PAUL ROLFE Number: 2799
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 3:49p
Subj: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
NB> titles in stock.
NB> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
NB> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
NB> KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
etc.
Can you send me a catalogue to:
Paul Rolfe
11 Warbrook Place
Mandurah Western Australia 6201
or if you want you can fax it to me on +61-9-535-5822 9:00am - 5:30pm
Australian Time, or even E-mail to me at 3:690/649
Regards
Paul
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From: DON PUGH Number: 2800
To: ALL AUSTRALIAN CDROMS Date: 09/05/93 8:29p
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CDROM SUPPORT BBS
Don Pugh
17 Irvine St
Peppermint Grove, WA 6011
Ph 09-384-9043
Data Modem 09-383-4925 (3 Lines)
We Offer Dealers Prices For Sales of 5 or More Disks
Mix as you like. Most disks in stock.
WALNUT CREEK SERIES (Available Now)
Gifs Galore $25.00
Simtel latest $25.00
Windows April, 1993 $22.00
HOBBES OS/2 $25.00
Amiga Aminet $25.00 (out of stock)
Libris Britannica Vol. II $65.00
C Programmers Users Group $40.00
Info Mac MacIntosh Disk $50.00
Linux Unix Disk $60.00
Older Simtel Disks $19.00
OTHER SPECIALS
Super Games for Windows $20.00
Super ClipArt Disk $20.00 (Lots of stock)
Night Owl 9 $45.00
Seventh Guest Game $75.00
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* Origin: CD_ROM SUPPORT BBS,(3:690/750) Perth, 10Gb Files (3:690/750)
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From: SIMON COGGINS Number: 2801
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/05/93 7:26a
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>What I don't like about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact
>>same price as the disk version when their making more profit on the cd
>>version instead of the disk version...
> (details given)
> Presumably though if they ARE adding scenes to the
> CD version not in
> the disk version, that costs money for them to do, and
> they should
> be allowed to charge extra because of that. ...And
But then you must remember that they don't loose money on breaching the
copyright crap on the games.. (Not unless you have 650meg free on your HD..
Regards.
Simon
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2802
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/08/93 7:52p
Subj: CD authoring Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Wantok!
On 09-05-93 Laurie Batt wrote to Rowan Evans...
LB> RE> Costs are around $A1,800.00 for the glass master and then
LB> RE> $1.85 or so per CD-ROM in lots of 1,000 (they'll do
LB> RE> smaller lots at higher prices!)
LB> RE>
LB> RE> This works out to around $A20.00 per CD-ROM for 1,000
LB>
LB> Rowan
LB> I hope you are not the accountant for the bank you work for. <G>
Not me, I'm the Technology Tourist!
LB> According to my calculations 1000 X $1.85 = $1850
LB> 1800 + 1850 = $3650
LB> 3650 /1000 = $3.65 per disc
LB> Where did the $20 come from
Blame mental arithmetic! I divided 1,800 by 100 to get 18.00 instead
of by 1000 to get 1.80!
Lukim Yu!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2803
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/08/93 7:57p
Subj: Pro Audio Or Soundbl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brice!
On 09-03-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > BF> Try it with a SCSI drive that is doublespin for a FAIR
BF> > BF> comparison.
BF>
BF> > The NEC CDR-55 *IS* a doublespin drive!
BF>
BF> The NEC 73/74 and 83/84 series are the doublespin drives. I do NOT
BF> recall the 55 as being doublespin.
You may not recall it, but the spex listed in the drive's manual states
Transfer Rate 300Kbps!
BF> > BTW, as I have said before, the NEC 55 and 74-1 performed to within
BF> > 5% whether they were attached to the PAS16 *OR* an Adaptec 1540B!
BF>
BF> Limitation of the drive - and quite frankly, I question those figures
BF> on the Panasonics anyway, as the DRIVE is only rated for HALF
BF> those numbers. I suspect they have a cache involved that is
BF> distorting the TRUE numbers....
Same size cache as the 74/84 series drives - 64Kb!
I know that the drive is only rated at 300Kbps, but after living with
several for a while, what they can, and do, do when attached to an
SB Pro/16/16 ASP has to be experienced to be believed.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2804
To: JOHNM OSBORNE Date: 09/08/93 8:16p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
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Hi John!
On 09-02-93 Johnm Osborne wrote to All...
JO> I understand that Media Vision are planning to release a
JO> sound card using "sampled sounds" rather than FM
JO> synthesised sounds.
This is wave table isn't it??
JO> My experience with midi equipment
JO> suggests this board will have far superior sound.
The ordinary PAS16 sounded pretty good to me!
JO> Does any one out htere know more about this new board?
JO> When will it be released?
JO> What will be the price relative to a standard PAS16?
JO> Will a PAS16 be upgradeable or will a new board be required?
I saw a post the other day that suggested it was an entirely *NEW* board...
JO> Will this new board make Yamaha based boards "old hat"?
Nope, just cheaper!
JO> Do Media Visions' competitors have a response?
Yep! Creative Lab's SB 16 has a daughter card, the Wave Blaster, that
adds Wave Table synthesis...... You've got to hock your kids to buy one
though!
Hope this helps!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2805
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/08/93 8:24p
Subj: Cd size? Refer: NONE
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Hi Terry!
On 09-04-93 Terry Menzies wrote to ALL...
TM> I am looking to buy a cd rom drive. The one I am looking at uses a
TM> max of 680 mb disks, is this ok or should I go for something bigger?
This is all that the ISO9660 standard allows on a CD-ROM.... There are
some CD-ROMs out there with more, and its a matter of suck it and see
to see if they work in your CD-ROM drive!
BTW, it would help if you posted the make and model # of the CD-ROM drive!
TM> What is the average CD GAME size?
Most CDs seem to be a straight port of the floppies (with *EXCEPTIONS*)
and take between 5 to 25Mb.... Some of the newer CD-ROM only games like
The 7th Guest and Dune have extensive video clips, etc and take up 600
Mb or so!
TM> The unit is selling for A$399 and comes with sofware drivers for use
TM> with Windows and plays music CD's.
Does it come with a sound card?? If not, and you expect it to play
Audio CDs through a SoundBlaster 1.5 or 2.0, you'll be disappointed! The
older SB cards do not have an on-board mixer on the line-in jack and
you won't hear the music!
TM> The guy told me that it's access time is 350ms and is Kodak Photo CD
TM> compatible..(Whatever that is.)
Access time is how long the drive takes to get to the requested data...
If you ever experienced an old XT, with a 65ms access HDD and compared it
to a 386/486 with a 12ms HDD, you'll know the difference!
Photo CD compatibility means that you'll be able to read your photos off
a Photo CD and fddle with them!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2806
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/08/93 8:28p
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Alan!
On 09-05-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to All...
AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a Mono 8
AW> bit SB card?
No trick, its *NOT* possible!
The older SB cards do not have the on-board mixer of the SB Pro and
later cards to enable line-in to pass the music to the speakers!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but that's the way it goes....
Buy an SB Pro 2/16/16 ASP.... You'll be able to do what you want (music
out of the sound card speakers), save a slot and experience a slight
speed up in the CD-ROM!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2807
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 09/08/93 8:30p
Subj: SB16ASP+CD in Win Refer: NONE
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Hi Victor!
On 09-06-93 Victor Zdanowicz wrote to All...
VZ> Has anyone had problems with running the SB16-ASP in
VZ> windows?... I cannot get the sound... al I hear is the
VZ> begining of the tune and then silence....
VZ>
VZ> I have done everything posible!!...
You obviously haven't, as mine works perfectly under Windows!
Check your interrupt setting... I'm using IRQ10....
If you still have problems, post your settings here and I'll check
against what I have....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2808
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/08/93 8:40p
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
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Hi Tapani!
On 09-03-93 Tapani Tuominen wrote to Gordon Peterson...
TT> Also in a CD-ROM drive with a tray sliding in and out there are
TT> necessarily some extra very delicate precision components forming a
TT> potential source of troubles when the drive gets older and worn
TT> whereas drives with caddies are built mostly in very basic and
TT> sturdy way and can take pretty rough handling without complaining.
Umm... You obviously don't have an NEC 74 or 84 series CD-ROM drive then!
These drives have a semi-motorised insertion and a motorised eject for
the caddy..... They would have similar componentry to a tray type
drive in this case!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2809
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/08/93 8:47p
Subj: SB Pro SCSI Refer: NONE
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Hi Simon!
On 09-05-93 Simon Mackay wrote to All...
SM> *** CROSS-POST TO CD-ROM Echo ************
SM> RH>Oh great just what i don't want! One SB-Pro 100% clone with Aztec
SM> chip
SM> RH>the Sound Galaxy NX Pro. Sound Blaster, Sound Blaster Pro, Covox
SM> Speec
SM> RH>Disney Sound System, Adlib 100% compatible. Has CD-rom interface
SM> for A
SM> RH>Can ad chip to enable SCSI bus interface as well. $220 for it as
SM> new i
SM> RH>with manual and most of its warrenty. Ph (02) 744-2486 or netmail.
SM> Don
SM> RH>or need as have a PAS16 which i'm happy with.
SM> RH>---
SM> Where can you get the SCSI chip to convert an ordinary AT-BUS SBPro CD
SM> interface into a SCSI SB-Pro CD interface?
You'll probably find that this card has *TWO* cd-ROM interfaces - the
Panasonic AT bus and a SCSI host adapter (once the optional chip is
installed).... But only one can be active at a time!
I saw a Taiwanese sound card like this a month or so ago.... (8 bit
sound only, so it got the big kiss off!)....
SM> Is the SCSI conversion ASPI compatible? Will there be an adapter to
SM> suit external SCSI devices?
If its like most sound card SCSI host adapters, it has *NO* BIOS, operates
in polled mode only and will not be capable of booting a HDD.... Asking
for ASPI drivers is like asking a Toyota dealer if his car will take
a BMW engine transplant!
Cheers!
o
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 2810
To: ALL AUSTRALIAN READERS Date: 09/08/93 12:34a
Subj: Cd-rom Special Offer Refer: NONE
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Special Offer for BBS users only! Join the Australian CD-ROM Club before
the end of September and you will receive a FREE CD-ROM with your first
order. A small annual investment of $25 entitles you to:
o Huge catalogue regularly delivered to your home. You can choose from
more than 300 titles, with descriptions of most titles to make the
choice easier. You will have Access to over 1000 titles.
o 10% discount on all your CD-ROM software purchases made through your
club.
o To stay up to date with what's occuring in CD-ROM through your
regular newsletter.
o Freecall (008) 811190 mail ordering for your convenience.
Call today to join! (008) 811190 or FAX (06)2914591, CITACT BBS
(06)2928288
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 2811
To: JEFF WEISS Date: 09/07/93 1:49a
Subj: Write your own CD! Refer: NONE
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Hi Jeff,
You were saying ...
JW> Cost: $50 set up charge per original.
JW> $100 for each CD.
JW> For example, it is $150 for 1 CD, $250 for 2 CDs, $350 for 3 CDs, etc.
JW>
JW> That's less than $0.25 per megabyte!
JW>
JW> SysOps get a $25 per CD discount! 1 CD for only $125! 2 CDs for
JW> $200! Get multiple copies for additional security and save $$$.
JW>
JW> All prices are in US funds and include Priority delivery within the
JW> US. COD charges are extra.
JW>
JW> Call for Canadian and overseas delivery.
Would you mind giving me an extra bit of info?
Do these prices hold for Australia (apart from delivery costs)?
Regards, Sunny.
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From: MICHAEL COOPER Number: 2812
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 8:40p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
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For Australian Readers only.
Anyone know where I can get a Panasonic CR-562-B CD-ROM Drive (internal)
with AT buss card. I do NOT need a sound card, I already have one. Also
would be interested in a bundle with some CD's. Sydney area.
Thanks,
Mike, Sydney, OZ
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2813
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/08/93 11:21a
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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On 09-06-93 Rowan Evans wrote to David Winger...
RE> Hi David!
RE>
RE> On 09-04-93 David Winger wrote to Tony Stott...
RE>
RE> DW> TS> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
RE> DW> TS> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
RE> DW> TS>
RE> DW> TS> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to
RE> produce
RE> DW> TS> your own one-off cdrom disks
RE> DW> A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
RE> DW> ^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
RE>
RE>
RE> Ummm, no..... WORM drives use a different media to CD-R (CD-ROM
RE> Recordable)
RE> drives.... WORM has, I believe, a magnetic component to what it does,
RE> as
RE> well as a different format to CD-R.
RE>
RE> Cheers!
RE>
RE> o
RE> /U\
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2814
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/08/93 11:41a
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
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On 09-05-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to All...
AW> Hello All!
AW>
AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a Mono 8
AW> bit
AW> SB card?
AW>
AW> The CD-ROM drive is working fine, but I want to enable the sound
AW> through my
AW> old mono SB card (Ver 2). Do I connect the CD-ROM drive to it's
AW> controller
AW> card with the 4 wire cable, and then plug a connecter from the
AW> external red
AW> and white jacks on the controller card to the line-in on the SB card?
I have the same problem.
Let me know if you find a solution.
Thanks,
\ /
Dave oo
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From: GREG MCDONELL Number: 2815
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/08/93 10:51a
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
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Whilst on a recent visit to Earth Tony Stott spake thusly to Bob Hall
TS> Bob, I have not heard of the cdromsale echo making it to Australia, so
TS> if you remove ads from this echo, the Australian contingent will be
TS> cut off from access to the many bargains found in the 10-line adverts.
TS> To other Zone 3 readers... any takers for getting the cdromsale echo
TS> brought in?
Tony, I'm also in Australia and I have used this echo extensively
for both info and purchases. If this echo is reduced in scope, I
would be keen to obtain CDROM SALE echo in Aust.
Cheers, Greg
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 2816
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 11:49p
Subj: Adaptec and CDR-501 Refer: NONE
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This may sound odd but I just bought a Panasonic CDR-501 SCSI CDROM to attach
to my Adaptec 1540B card and it works great for me under OS/2 but I cannot
access it when I boot DOS.
I load this in config.sys: ASPI4DOS.SYS /D /L
When I try to load MSCDEX.EXE in my autoexec.bat, it looks for a device name
in the /D: parameter and cannot find one, obviously because ASPI4DOS does not
allow you to specify one.
What am I doing wrong? Do I need another driver for the Panasonic Drive after
ASPI4DOS? I can't get MSCDEX to load no matter what I do.
Help!
Cheers...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2817
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/08/93 8:04p
Subj: Re: my new cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
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LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and
TM> I'm not sure how to
LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able
TM> to play musical CD's
LH> while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't
TM> the only reason I
LH> made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature.
LH> Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new
LH> "toy"?
TM> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TM> A very good question......
A rather broad question, as it were, but definitely a good one.
LR> Dump Windows and get OS/2.
TM> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TM> A bloody stupid answer! It did not offer anything of worth.
Quite to the contrary, it offered the best advice that my almost 3
decades of experience in the computer industry would supply. Dumping Windows
is a great first step to getting the most out of ANY IBM compatible computer
system. As far as worth is concerned, I consider any advice worth a great deal
that allows a $2000 state of the art computer to stop performing like a $20
1978 vintage pong game and start performing like a $2000 computer.
TM> An answer to this would have been good for me and many others.
I gave two answers, and good ones, considering the time and space
allotted. Although the terms "toy" and "Windows" are virtually synonymous, any
computer system will make great gains in virtually every area by discarding
with the greatest possible haste the huge waste and lack of flexibility
inherent with every aspect of Windows. Having done that, one can then continue
on the journey to make the most out of one's computer by loading a genuine
Operating System that can actually make good use, substantially full use, of
one's hardware, rather than a two decade old kludge of a disk utility that is
too ignorant to make any more than minimal use of ANY hardware. OS/2, although
far from being a truly great OS, is nonetheless an acceptable OS, at a decent
price. Furthermore, it can and does make substantially full use of the system
hardware. For most users, one machine running OS/2 is worth a dozen or more
machines running DOS, no matter what silly (and horribly, unnecessarily
wasteful) interface one tacks on to the poor thing.
In short, the answer to her question remains: To make the most of her
CD-ROM, as well as the rest of her system, she is well advised to run OS/2 2.1
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2818
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/08/93 8:25p
Subj: Re: Cd size? Refer: NONE
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TM> This is all new to me....
For everything and everyone, there is always a first time.
TM> I am looking to buy a cd rom drive. The one I am looking at uses a max
TM> of 680 mb disks, is this ok or should I go for something bigger?
There is nothing bigger. The disk size is fixed by the nature of the
media standard. The only way to get more data on a CD-ROM disk is to utilize a
disk compression routine. There are several different formats, but virtually
all CD-ROM drives are compatible with them all. Some can store a bit more than
others, but they all store substantially the same amount of data.
TM> What is the average CD GAME size?
I don't know. I don't play games on my computers, but I would think
the size would be pretty huge, or else a CD would not be the best distribution
medium. 'Surely I would not expect any CD-ROM to have less than 20 Megs on
board, but I'm sure that many game CD's contain several games. OTOH, Motion
Picture Video consumes HUGE amounts of data, and any game that relies heavily
on MPV is going to need LOTS of data, perhaps even hundreds of megs.
TM> The unit is selling for A$399 and comes with sofware drivers for use with
TM> Windows and plays music CD's.
My Aussie conversion is a bit rusty, but that sounds like a reasonable
price.
TM> The guy told me that it's access time is 350ms and is Kodak Photo CD
TM> compatible..(Whatever that is.)
It means that you can have Kodak put your favorite slides or prints on
the CD and view them with your computer. However, double check to see if it is
MULTI-SESSION photo CD compatible. 350ms access is not that great an access
time, but then access times in CD's are not generally a problem. Ask if the
unit is double-spin (ie 300KB/sec). Better yet, post the make and model, and I
am sure that someone on the echo can give you a good critique of the drive.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2819
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/08/93 8:38p
Subj: Re: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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DW> THE SYSGEN FLOPTICAL
DW> A normal floppy drive just steps the heads across
DW> the disk in preset increments. At the same time
DW>
DW> It should also be noted that floptical drives can
DW> read standard 1.44 meg and 720k 3.5" floppy disks.
DW>
LB> You have described a floptical.
True.
LB> The Magneto Optical is a totally different thing and not
LB> in any way related to the floptical which is only
True.
LB> available in 20MB and 128MB flavours. The Magneto optical
False. Floptical drives are available ONLY as 21 Meg drives (which do
of course read and write standard 3.5" floppies). The 128 Meg drives ARE MO
drives.
LB> is in the 500MB+ range. The Media used is also totally
LB> different
Also false, sort of. The media is standard magnetic media just like
the floptical uses on ONE SIDE. The floptical has a pre-written optical
surface that is used strictly as a positioning surface.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2820
To: DAVID CHILDRESS Date: 09/09/93 1:53a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
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DC> I have a few questions that I would like to ask about CD-ROM systems.
DC>
DC> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and single-session?
This refers to the new Photo-CD standard. I am not highly familiar
with the technical specifications of this standard, so I may be in error, but
it is my understanding that multi-session CD's are ones that are written at
several different times, allowing one to get a dozen good shots, have them
transferred to CD, get a few more good shots and have them transferred to the
same CD, etc, until the CD is full.
DC> 2). Is there any problem hooking up a SCSI compatible CD-ROM system
DC> to a IDE type computer?
There is no such thing as an IDE computer. Many hard drives (and some
tape units and other storage units) have an Integrated Drive Electronics
interface. There are normally not likely to be any unresolvable conflicts
between an IDE controller and a SCSI controller in the same machine. However,
in general I would recommend to go SCSI all the way, if you are going to have
even one SCSI component.
DC> 3). Does anyone have a good recommendation on a CD-ROM system\bundle?
In what price range?
DC> 4). What should be considered the minimum access times to look for?
Access times on CD-ROM drives are not usually really that important. A
much more important parameter is the transfer rate. If you can afford it, I
would definitely recommend 300KB/s or greater.
DC> 5). Anything else you care to mention that would be helpful? Your
DC> .02 matters. <G>
If you can afford it, get a little higher quality system, not the rock
bottom minimum that will meet your current needs.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2821
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/09/93 2:04a
Subj: Re: Drive speed Refer: NONE
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CB> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my
CB> BBS. I don't 4really want to spend too much on
CB> the drive but I have to be sure that it
CB> will be able to keep up with people downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS &
That's bps, not BPS.
CB> the serial port is locked at 19200 bps.
19,200bps is dead slow. That amounts to a mere 1.875KB/s. The SLOWEST
CD-ROM drives can transfer at 150KB/s.
CB> I noticed that the NEC drives that
CB> the local store carries (the cheaper ones) have 500ms
CB> access speed. Is that
CB> fast enough to keep up with my modem.
I afraid the question is rather nonsensical. The access time has
absolutely nothing at all to do with the transfer rate.
CB> a multispin cdrom for my personal machine so don't really care if the BBS
CB> one can't do photo-cd's or whatever. What speed is the Pioneer DRM-600A ??
The 600A is fairly slow, and has a rather poor access time. I don't
recall the exact values. The 604X has a 300ms access time, and a 612KB/s
transfer rate.
CB> How does the Pioneer drive handle it if 2 people are online & they try &
CB> access files on different disks at the same time? 8) I presume it is 1
CB> mechanism with a carousel or is it 6 mechanisms & able to access each at
CB> the same time.
In that case, the pioneer has to swap disks in and out. This can take
as long as 5 seconds per swap, but the data from the two files is pulled out
into a cache. At 1920CPS, it will take *34 SECONDS* to empty a 64K buffer.
That is plenty of time to swap between disks and back before having to pick up
another block of data, which will take a few hundred ms.
Les
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2822
To: JD BROWN Date: 09/08/93 9:26p
Subj: Re: Text encyclopedia Refer: NONE
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You> copyright and license info.
...
Well, since I don't have a BBS, it really doesn't matter to me
personally, and perhaps I should actually read the license on a CD-ROM,
but it seems to me...
(and I do know a little about the copyright law)...
If someone puts up a reference CD and only one user can access it at a
time, I don't believe that is copyright infringement. It is when you
get into multiusers it becomes a problem. It's analagous to allowing
your roommate or neighbor to borrow a book from you. Comments? --
regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2823
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/08/93 9:30p
Subj: Re: Mscdex woes Refer: NONE
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Show us your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT lines that relate. Normally
you don't have to tell the CD-ROM anything different. It picks up the
next logical drive (oh, but on my Mitsumi it did require I put in a
LASTDRIVE= line to include that drive). -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 2824
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/08/93 8:05p
Subj: Fed Micro CD-Rom Refer: NONE
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It will be good for you to get away from the daily grind. If you want more
info re cost etc, the people to contact are:
National Trade Productions, Inc
313 South Patrick Street
Alexandria, VA 22314-3567
I work at D.O.T. in D.C. and am not a salesman for them. It looked like a
great opportunity and I think CD-Roms are the greatest new thing for
computers. Most of these people buying from him did not read E-mail and were
not aware of the good prices offered. If you need and other help, let me
know.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2825
To: ROBERT HAWORTH Date: 09/05/93 10:44p
Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE
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-> Its called the Concurrent. Powersource is the importer. Ph (02) 744-5
-> Sydney (03) 383-6509 Melbourne.
Oh, no wonder I didn't hear of it.... I'm in Newport, OR..... U.S.A.!
Up on the Northwestern side of the country....
Thanks for the info!
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2826
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 09/05/93 10:45p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> How good are the graphics on it?
-> I was lokking for very good graphics like the ones that from a few fe
-> look like pictures.
Could you maybe reply some of my message? I forgot what we were talking
about...
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2827
To: BRIAN KING Date: 09/05/93 10:56p
Subj: Laura Bow II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I saw your message to Henry Paul saying that you had Laura Bow II. I
-> have this game but I am stuck on level two. I am in the museum. I h
-> talked to all the people and then they disappear. I have picked up t
-> on the table but other than that I can not do anything.
-> PLEASE HELP!!!
-> The game came with a sierra hint line number but when I ring them up
-> no clues left there.
-> Would be grateful for any help that you could give me.
Ahem, maybe I can help! <g> In level 2 talk to everybody AND come up
behind ANY group of people! You will eavesdrop on their conversation!
Also, don't call hint line, call BBS! They have hint database for all
games. Number is 1-209-683-4463. Mon.-Fri. 24hrs.
I called SEVERAL times to finally get to the end... Still haven't won it
yet... Believe me, it gets MUCH harder!
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2828
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/07/93 6:26a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Actually Henry, I just got my Mitsumi CD-ROM drive maybe a month ago
-> only have like 3 games for it, King's Quest 5, Battle Chess(the data
Hi Ashwin!,
I know I already replied to this message on another board but I wanted
to mention, if you get tired of any, LET ME KNOW! <g>
-BTW Check out Phantasmagoria from Sierra when it comes out! Is supposed
to blow the doors off T7G!
l8r,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2829
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 09/07/93 6:32a
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rachel!,
Do you have more than 1 computer? Mitsumi's are really cheap. Under $200
with a bunch of software even.
I replied to this message on another board, so I didn't quote anything.
I shall try YOUR board this weekend when the rates go cheap.
Looks like you get the ocean on the other side huh?
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2830
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 09/07/93 6:46a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I gotta 386DX-40 /w a Paradise an i got 1%, i think the game has a bu
I got that message too on one of my programs.... I manually set it too
%100 and it seems to work okay....
All you have to do is edit the config file for the game...
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 2831
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 3:42p
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hola a todos.
¿Hay alguien que venda, de segunda mano, el Space Quest V o el Police Quest
III en CDROM?
Si alguien esta interesado, que deje un mensaje diciendo precio.
Saludos. Alex.
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2832
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/08/93 5:37p
Subj: Re: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Dave Reed <09-07-93 17:02> Don Pryor wrote:
DP> Now to find the least expensive place to send my money order.
DP> I would accept offers via netmail to my board at 1:291/6, in
DP> particular a directory of it's contents. Know where I could find same?
The file list is available from 1:344/79 as NOPV9.ZIP and I'll sell you one
for $15 + shipping, as long as you're not a liberal Clinton supporter. If you
support Clinton, the prices is $30, to cover all the damage him and his kind
are doing to our economy.
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 2833
To: DANIEL BAUER Date: 09/09/93 7:32a
Subj: Problem with PHILIPS CM205 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 06 13:44, Daniel Bauer of 2:246/26.50 wrote:
DB> I have a problem with that CD-ROM-drive: If I insert a musik-CD it
DB> plays it perfectly. But if I insert a CD-ROM it does not accept it.
DB> The LED lights yellow and after five or six seconds it changes to
DB> red. I have used two CD-ROMs which are full in order. I used a free
DB> IRQ for it, so nothing can be wrong. Is it ruined?
If you have a /e switch in your config.sys line that starts up the drive,
remove it and try again.
Kevin
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From: PAUL SZUDZIK Number: 2834
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/08/93 6:29a
Subj: PHONE DIRECTORY CD'S FOR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yes, the information on the Phone book CD is correct about me.
Congratulation, you found your first one! You pretty well convinced me to wait
a bit. Thanks for your input.
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From: DAVID HAMM Number: 2835
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/08/93 6:42p
Subj: WINDOWS NT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What's your price on Windows NT?
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 2836
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/08/93 12:50p
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk Cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CW:>Doug Schwantes wrote in a message to All:
CW:>DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a
CW:>DS> CD-ROM?
CW:>Norton Speedcache 4.0+ will do the job nicely for you. Otherwise you could
CW:>always buy OS/2 2.1 GA, it has built in CDROM drive caching of course..<g>.
CW:>Cheers...
CW:>Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
The Mitsumi CD-ROM Works with OS/2 2.1
you don't need special drivers?
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 2837
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/08/93 12:51p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS:>Hi people!
MS:> We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
MS:>Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
MS:>INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:
MS:> Cdn$ US$
MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
MS:> Foxes 25 19
MS:> Busty Babes 25 19
MS:> Shareware Studio II 20 16
MS:> Night Owl 9 35 26
MS:> Erotic Encounters 35 26
MS:> Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9
MS:> C ya soon!
MS:> .\\ichellea
MS:> 306-789-4654
I want the PROPHONE 1993 do you have a fax number to order one copy?
Do you accept credit card?
Send me a catalog of your products to
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Av. Suite 7-54
Laredo Tx 78041
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 2838
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/08/93 12:51p
Subj: Cd-Roms-Discount Prices! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB:> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB:> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
NB:> titles in stock.
NB:> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
NB:> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
Please send me your catalog to
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Av. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx 78041
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2839
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 11:58p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES |
>PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
>SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: JOHN EBERT Number: 2840
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 12:32a
Subj: CD Rom for sale... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm leaving the country in a little less than 2 weeks and NEED to let my CD
ROM go...I need the cash!
It's a Mitsumi CD that fully complies with all the MPC requirements, and has
served me well for about a year. I have 10 discs...and would be willing to
sell for $350...although I WILL bargain with someone in person. Someone,
please leave me some mail...this thing'll go to waste without me around to use
it, so I want to move it. I feel $350 is a fair deal, considering it comes
with an encycplodia, atlas, and a bunch of other good stuff.
John
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2841
To: DAVID HUTTON Date: 09/09/93 7:53a
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David!
05 Sep 93, David Hutton writes to All:
DH> I am looking for a couple of the BSR CD drives that have SONY
DH> CDU-6201-10 on the bottom. They were sold by DAK about a year or so
DH> ago. You can reach me here or at my BBS 307-637-5930. Thanks
DH> David
Know someone that has one he may want to sell how much are you wanting to pay?
Pat
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From: NICK FUNK Number: 2842
To: VIC ALMEIDA Date: 09/09/93 7:02a
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep 05 20:50>, Vic Almeida of 1:142/320 writes:
VA> Dude' did this interface card come with the panasonic CD-ROM
VA> Drive ? if so do you have the number that i can call to get a
VA> hold of panasonic?
Vic I purchase the Panasonic 562B for $245 and the MediaVisions
ProStudio 16 for $205 from MPC Multimedia. The advertise in
Computer Shopper. I also purchase from MPC a 8 bit controller
card for the 562B for $20. The drive works beautifully and the
sound card is great. I am very happy with both devices.
MPS Multimedia Inc
342 West Portal Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94127
(415) 731-4677
MPS has a 1-800 line but I can find the number. Check out there ad
in Computer Shopper.
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 2843
To: SAM JONES Date: 09/08/93 12:08p
Subj: Re: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Sam Jones to Ken Uhrick <=-
KU> AS far as I KNOW THE KODAK PHOTO cd IS WINDOWS prg
SJ> I finally found out that the Kodak program is available in DOS or
SJ> Windows and the local Babbage's only carries the DOS (I don't know why)
SJ> version. Someone also suggested Tempra Access which is DOS but supports
SJ> video cards with VESA.
SJ> Sam
SJ> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
SJ> ! Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27)
THINKS FOR THE INFO I just odered it i dont know if the one im geting is wondo
or dos
/s
... Adult GIF files are meant for testing monitors.
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2844
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 6:49p
Subj: Toshiba 3101 cdrom-int Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just upgradec to an external CD-ROM, so I have this extra one
that I would like to sell.
IBM / Toshiba Internal CD-ROM #3101 1/2Ht SCSI $199
150K Transfer Rate 250ms
These were recently replaced by the current double spin 3401's
RJ Kulman 718 968 9167
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2845
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/05/93 5:36p
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>Most probably you don't miss those fonts then. None of them looks
TT>anything spectacular to me. Some names of the TT-fonts: Calisto,
TT>Headline, Photina Ultra Bold etc. Letraset type 1 fonts included are not
TT>better either.
Hmmmm....
TT>The magazine itself had lots of nice articles (although a little bit too
TT>English to my taste) but giving this kind of crap as a "valuable free
TT>present" is simply ridiculous. But then, we should remember that such a
TT>thing as free lunch does not exist. "Over 170 Mb of free software, tons
TT>of utilities, free fonts and full working models" that's how the
TT>PC-Magazine in question describes the CD included. ROTFL
Well, I've probably paid more for CDs that turned out to be LESS
interesting (in fact, even without seeing this one, I'm SURE I have).
At least it wasn't expensive.
TT>Some of them you can try, yes. But finding the stuff from that jungle of
TT>subdirectories is not an easy task.
When you're used to consulting like I am, you get pretty good at being
able to find your way around clients' weird disk organizations. :-)
TT>GP>The simple way to make sure you don't get stuck with bad caddies is t
TT>GP>ONLY BUY A CADDYLESS DRIVE. No reason to have to keep buying those
TT>GP>stupid caddies forever!
TT>GP>
TT>GP> CADDIES.... JUST SAY NO!
TT>Campaigning against caddies again? ;-)
YOU BET! This is _one_ case where I think that consumer pressure can
actually win one!
TT>CD-disks are not so fault tolerant after all. I do need regularly 3-4
TT>CD:s and have to switch between them often while I am working. Caddies
TT>cut unnecessary extra hassle of this process and I can freely keep those
TT>CD:s among all the stuff on my slightly over-crowded desk without
TT>needing to worry about damaging the disks. Of course this arrangement
TT>requires that you have an own caddy for each CD or at least for most
TT>frequently used ones.
Right. And that's what I think is obnoxious. How long would people put
up with audio CDs if they had to fiddle around with those stupid caddies
for all their discs? Or to keep moving them in and out of caddies? In
a stack of discs, I think it's much easier to rapidly find the disc you
want (by the color of the spine of the jewelbox, for example) than to
pull out the right disc that's been preloaded into one of a pile of
identical-looking caddies.
TT>Also in a CD-ROM drive with a tray sliding in and out there are
TT>necessarily some extra very delicate precision components forming a
TT>potential source of troubles when the drive gets older and worn whereas
TT>drives with caddies are built mostly in very basic and sturdy way and
TT>can take pretty rough handling without complaining.
Most CD-ROMs probably take a lot less disc changing than audio CD
drives do, and experience during something like ten years demonstrates
that this simply is NOT a problem.
TT>The only
TT>disadvantage of caddies is that they cost quite a lot but compared to
TT>the price of a CD-disk it is after all almost acceptable.
If you're buying $100+ discs, maybe. Not when you're buying discs for
$5-25 (i.e. the price of audio CDs). And not when you're developing a
largeish collection of CD-ROMs (as we ALL will, eventually).
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From: LAURENT GENIER Number: 2846
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 11:22p
Subj: Cd rom panasonic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PANASONIC
CD-ROM PANASONIC Modle 562B
Temps d'accs moyen: 320 ms
Taux de transfert: 300 Ko / sec
Capacit: 682 Mo
Multi-Cessions
Double vitesses
Livr avec carte controlleur
Peut galement se brancher directement sur la Sound-Blaster
Vendu avec TEMPRA ACCES (permet de lire les CD-Photo KODAK)
et SEVEN GUEST (superbe jeu de Virgin Games)
Si vous appellez de
la part d'ELECTRON BBS ... T.T.C.
.
DirecTronic, 8 rue Euryale Dehanin 75019 PARIS, Tel: 42.08.09.09
Electron BBS : 69 39 46 30
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2847
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 9:46p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey all, I just bought Space Quest 4 for CD and well if anyone out there
has played the CD or regular version since they should be the same,
please write to me and I will tell you where I need some help. C-ya and
TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: JEREMY ROLLINGS Number: 2848
To: GARY KORPAN Date: 09/06/93 4:34p
Subj: Space CDROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GK>Folks, could anyone describe the best space related cdrom's they've se
GK> (Not Our Solar System which is pathetic). Thanks in advance.
I own Space Adventure, published by Knowledge Adventure, Inc,
It s much better than disks full of nothing but NASA pictures.
I first bought a disk called very much like *Our Solar System*
and was very disappointed. I exchanged it for Space Adventure.
In addition to having offering lots of information in the form
of text, pictures, and animations / simulations, Space Adventure
uses a wonderful interface. Their order number is 1-800-542-4240.
Call and I'm sure they'll send you some info.
Jeremy in Chicago.
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From: JERRY SMITH Number: 2849
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/09/93 5:23p
Subj: Image Compression Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Hi Bob-- I originally sent the following message a few weeks ago,
but addressed it to Don Kulha and you collectively. If you
responded, it didn't make it out here. If you don't have
personal knowledge of this technology, can you point me in the
right direction? If Byte is reviewing the subject, it doesn't
seem like it could be all that esoteric!
"Last month's Byte magazine had a review of 'Fractal Image
Compression' by Barnsley and Hurd (ISBN 1-5681-000-8, $49.95).
The suggestion was that this technology was at the 'cutting edge'
of image compression. Have you seen this book and do you know
anything about the technology, or whether it has been used in
producing any current CD's? I'm especially curious to know what
sort of compression is attained by this method.
Thanks for any input you might be able to provide."
Jerry Smith 4341 U St., Sacramento, CA 95817 (916)455-3275
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2850
To: GARY KORPAN Date: 09/09/93 8:58a
Subj: Re: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ismail, are you coming up the computer swap meet/sales next Saturday in
> Vancouver (actually in Richmond)? Am curious to see all your cdroms.
Hi Gary,
We will be there!..Look at booth #42. TTYL
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 2851
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 4:27a
Subj: 562B/563 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What I need is a little information on the difference between the Panasonic
562B vrs the 563, as there is a dealer in my area selling the 562B for $360
which for us KANUCS is a very good price.
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From: THOMAS WAHL Number: 2852
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/05/93 10:51p
Subj: Sale Cd-Rom'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB>
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 30
NB> titles in stock.
NB>
NB> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
NB> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
NB> KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
NB> ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
NB> DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIS
NB> KINGS QUEST V $16.74
NB> LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG
NB> SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR PO
NB> TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NB> NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
NB> UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
NB>
Please mail a listing of your CDs to
Thomas Wahl
2035 Kennedy Road
Scarborough, Ontario
Canada
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From: GEOFF SMITH Number: 2853
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 6:38p
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone seen the Oxford English Dictionary CD-ROM at a decent price?
List price is $895.00. I'd like to see it "somewhat" lower.
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 2854
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/08/93 3:51p
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*] Somewhere in CyberSpace, Robert Prohl barked this at All:
RP> Hey people.. gotta question..
RP> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and
RP> configured it as
RP> the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific
RP> variable for
RP> teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I
RP> figured I could
RP> just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
RP> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such
RP> nonsense when
RP> autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be
RP> done?
RP> W
RP> --- ConfMail V3.2
RP> * Origin: Paradigm BBS (10 Lines) * Hampton, VA *
RP> 804-838-3644 (1:271/175)
RP> 388/1000 5
Unless you've found the answer, give me the type of CD-ROM drive you have and
the interface card you're using, whether sound card or otherwise. I may have
an answer.
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 2855
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/08/93 3:53p
Subj: Prescription CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*] Somewhere in CyberSpace, Stewart Rothman barked this at Mike Shannon:
SR> Mike, I don't know if you've seen some of my recent
SR> messages, but I've
SR> been looking for a medical-type CD, not necessarily with
SR> medical
SR> symptoms and complaints, but a complete listing of
SR> prescription
SR> drugs and possible reactions/complications and a listing of
SR> other prescriptions/drugs that could react or inter-react
SR> with those. I've seen a couple, but no documentation or
SR> background on the individuals or doctors/hospitals that did
SR> the research for the listings. I don't want to buy a disk
SR> that was compiled by some computer enthusiast or technical
SR> research person. I want one put out by a doctor or hospital
SR> staff. Do you have anything like what I'm asking about???
SR> I just saw where somebody returned a MAYO CLINIC CD to for
SR> THE FAMILY DOCTOR. What are these and why was one
SR> returned??? How's the other??
SR> Stu Rothman
SR> --- FD 2.00
SR> * Origin: ALASKAN SOURDOUGH,Rothman's LENS UNLIMITED,Fbks
SR> (1:355/38.6)
SR> 388/1000 5
Family Doctor is somewhat useless. Not in the least comparable to the Mayo
Clinic one. The CD you are looking for is usually sold personally to medical
establishments, and thus somewhat hard to find on the open market. Base price
I've seen runs about $1100 or so.
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 2856
To: JIMM CRAWFORD Date: 09/08/93 3:55p
Subj: CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*] Somewhere in CyberSpace, Jimm Crawford barked this at All:
JC> I'm doing some market research on CD-ROMs...
JC> What is it that you look for in purchasing SHAREWARE/Public
JC> Domain
JC> files on CD-ROMs? Any and all specifics would be
JC> appreciated.
JC> * RM 1.2 00556 * Does "Bad FAT" mean disk has high
JC> cholesterol???
JC> --- WM v3.01/92-0004
JC> * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377
JC> (1:226/110.0)
Check out PC-SIG series. Had alot of pleased persons with them. They usually
have ALOT on them and range from $50-$90 or so.
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 2857
To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 09/08/93 3:57p
Subj: SONY 535 PROBLEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*] Somewhere in CyberSpace, Tom Czachor barked this at All:
TC> Help... I have two sony 535 Cd-ROM drives. One will read
TC> all my disks
TC> SMS 1-2-3 & NightOwl 7-8-9, the second drive doesn't like
TC> them all and
TC> ejects them when it can't read them. It is mainly night 8 &
TC> SMS 2 I have
TC> the trouble with.
TC>
TC> Any suggestions??
TC>
TC> >>tom<<
TC> --- GEcho 1.01+
TC> * Origin: The DataWerks -v.32bis- CD-ROM's 717-343-5004
TC> (1:268/316)
TC> 388/1000 5
Had the same problem. It may sound silly, but this problem is usually caused
by the CD drive being tightened to tight in the case. On my multispin, I cannot
tighten the screws at all. Had the same problem with a client on their Sony.
Just unscrew it all the way, try it, watch it work, and then slowly tighten it
and try it until it gets too tight again. Amazing....eh?
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: JUSTIN RUSSELL Number: 2858
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 6:36p
Subj: multi CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey has anyone out there seen a CD-ROM that can hold 6 CD's and change them?
I have been searching but have not come across one yet and if you do have one
such as this is it SCSI?
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 2859
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/09/93 8:52p
Subj: Prescription CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stewart,
I carry Prescription Drugs Dos Version. It is a complete Pharmacist's guide to
the medications field. Retails for $79.95 and I sell for $29.00
Let me know if you are interested...
C-3 Production System
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
76904
915-944-7187
If you are interested reply a post with your address etc and I'll send you a
complete catalog with descriptions and all.....
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 2860
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/09/93 8:57p
Subj: Disc fix Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Hi Bob,
Remember me? I'm the guy you promised three times you would send the fix to Up
All Night. Hope you are still planning on supporting your product.
Please get with me and let me know what's going on.
I realize you are a busy person, but I need you to help me distribute a quality
product to my customers....
Waiting to hear from you real soon.
Chris Conklin
7705 Warrior
San Angelo, Tx
76904
915-944-7187
Thanks Bob
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From: ED YEE Number: 2861
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/09/93 9:08p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; Sound Board Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SC> 1) Can I access audio CD's with only the interface
SC> card that comes with the drive?
Yes.
SC> 2) Is the supplied interface card all I need to access such ROM's as
SC> encyclopedias, etc., or will I need a sound card?
SC> In particular, will I have to have a sound board to
SC> access sound files and graphics in an encyclopedia?
Yes, some use monaural sound shooting out to a stereo system (cords not
included for this) or the headphone plug. A sound card is not necessary, but
it's nice to have and some CD-software may require a 16 bit sound card.
If it's a 16-bit, most likely you can use the audio out from the CD-ROM and
plug it on the sound card. So sound from both the sound card and the CD-ROM
will share a pair of speakers.
SC> 4) If I get a sound card with a SCSI port built in,
SC> will the SCSI port work with the Mitsumi drive and
SC> allow me to get rid of the drive's dedicated IF?
No.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: ED YEE Number: 2862
To: ED TURNOCK Date: 09/09/93 9:13p
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible system"? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ET> Got a new "Power up" catalog today and it has some
ET> very good deals on CDROMS, However, and you knew
ET> there had to be one, some of them are flagged as
ET> needing a "MPC-compatible system".
ET> Does anyone know what this is? I called the power
ET> up 800 number and the guy that answered didn't
ET> know either, although he promised to find out and
ET> said if I would call tomorrow he would know
It means that the system is either compatible with the MPC level 1 standards or
the MPC level 2 standards. I would explain the MPC levels and what is
required, but I've got to run and start my homework. See ya.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: CHIP MORROW Number: 2863
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 7:47p
Subj: El Cheapo CDROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Unloading some used CD's in preparation for 7th Guest:
Game Arena 6.00
PC Game Room 8.00
Natl Geo. Mammals 12.00
Hall of Fame (Shareware CD) 5.00
Sample THIS! 2.50
...or take all five off my hands for $30.00 flat. Prices include postage
anywhere here in the 48 states.
If you want any/all of these, send check or money order to:
Chip Morrow
40 Valley View Drive
Newark, OH 43055
I will return your check via US Mail if what you want is already gone.
If you want to make sure I'm really a live individual <g>, I can be
reached evenings/weekends at 614-366-2296.
--- WM v2.09/92-0389
* Origin: The Mother Board,Buckeye Lake,OH(614)928-2339 (1:226/1400)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2864
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/09/93 4:28p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Andrew See to ANDRE QUEREE <=-
AS> Even the best Stereo sound from the FM based soundcards you are
AS> talking about is pretty ordinary. Wavetable cards sound tons better.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Any recommendations if sound quality, compatibility, and price were the
only considerations (i.e. ignoring CD capabilities)?
... ebius tagline. This is a moebius tagline. This is a mo ...
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* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2865
To: ALL DEALERS Date: 09/09/93 5:03p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yo: Mike, Boris, Jim, Dave, Ismail, & any others:
I'm in a discussion/debate on a local BBS regarding who buys the most
CDs - sysops or end users. If any of you have any *DATA* (i.e. not just
opinions) on this subject that you'd be willing to share, I'd surely
like to have it. Ideally, it would be broken up by type of CD, e.g.
shareware, general interest (like an encyclopedia), specialty (like ham
radio or geneology), etc.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2866
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/09/93 5:10p
Subj: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Unfortunately, Ismail's not alone. This CD is being hawked to sysops in
several adult echos/links as "New, Hot, and BBS Ready". I tried to warn
them (hawkers). Told them to read the back of the jewel case (copyright
notice); told them to look at the "FILES.BBS" files (they're there but
useless); etc. I was told rather impolitely to buzz off. I guess
Blaine's got his work cut out for him (sigh).
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From: NIEL EYDE Number: 2867
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 12:03p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> TOO MANY MORE TO
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATA
NB> E-mail ADDRESS OR
NB> ADDRESS!!!!
Please Email a complete list to me at NielE@AOL.COM
Thank you
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From: NICK LAWRUS Number: 2868
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 10:48p
Subj: Texel CDROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How good are the Texel CDROMS? Speed, reliability, etc. Anybody own
these units?
And does the speed of a CDROM really matter? I mean, they are all
pretty slow anyway, right? Thanks in advance!
nick.lawrus@f121.n369.z1.fidonet.org
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From: VICTOR HEALEY Number: 2869
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 8:57a
Subj: SB 16, Panasonic drives, audio quality, inacurate review Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This last summer a nameless Computer Magazine rated sound cards.
They downrated the SB 16 because it appeared to have a measure of
distortion in its audio output compared to some others.
I purchased their recommended sound card and have since returned it
because it was not fully compatible in every sense with the SB 16 or
the SB PRo for that matter.
What do these "so called" reviewers miss? First many cards claim to be
Sound Blaster compatible but which sound blaster? The orginal SB is the
the lowest standard. The PRO added stero, etc the 16 adds much better
sound, the ASP adds higher speed, compression etc. and so on.
I tried running the SB 16 demo on these other cards and noticed sounds
were missing or not in stero. If I had not allready used the demo with the
sound blaster 16 I may not have noticed what was missing. How much of
some really neat SB audio or sound effects in commercial programs will one
miss by using these other SB 16 compatible cards?
Second most cards have a token on board audio amplifier to about 3 watts,
some
to 7 watts. These amplifiers are ment to drive a pair of small "cheap?"
speakers. The design of this audio section is were some non linear audio
output can occur ( ie bad review). Who cares if they are connected to
speakers that are even more non linear? Did you notice that if you are
going to connect these cards to a really great set of speakers, such
as the ones that come with your home stero sound system, you will need to
have a more powerful amplifier? This high quality amplfier can take the
digital
signals directly from the sound blaster output WITHOUT GOING THROUGH the
local SB AMPLIFIER, just set the jumper to disable it. Try connecting
a PAS to a good stero without disabling the PAS amplifier and you may
find that you have to replace some expensive parts as warned in the PAS
manual.
The point is there are a bunch off gottchas in selecting a sound card.
SB is still the standard and may be for some time. The others offer
certain features which at one time made sense. The most notable one was that
the double speed CDROM drives were SCSI drives only and you got a cheap
(or not so cheap after buying cables and software drivers) SCSI interface.
The new Panasonic drives that are fast and hook directly to the SB card
if needed appear to be a better overall value. If one needes scsi for other
devices, wouldn't one be better advised to have purchased a decent scsi 2
card?
Another item to consider is the included software and documentation with
the sound card. The sound blaster includes high quality and epensive
software. Stuff supplied with most of the other cards looks like it was the
product of the third world, poor quality or backward, definitly not the
current standard.
Conclusion be careful when reading reviews and noting the advice of others,
including my own! Mistakes can be made, advice can be misleading, when it is
intentional you may find that you have been injured in following it to some
one elses gain. But that applies to the whole realm of human relations.
... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2870
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/09/93 6:04p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry this is a little late but, I was asking you how fast and how good are the
graphics on the mitsumi 350ms CD-ROM?
Any other good CD-ROMs?
with good graphics.
s
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 2871
To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 09/10/93 7:33a
Subj: Re: SONY 535 PROBLEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tom I had the same problem went to K-Marts and got a disk cleaner came home
and ran it in the drive seems to have helped Eldon
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From: SCOTT CONDER Number: 2872
To: GIL MACHIN Date: 09/09/93 10:06p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gil,
Many thanks for your response to my questions. It sounds like you wish you had
the Panasonic in place of the Mitsumi. I'll check into it. One related
question about the Panasonic for now -- do you know if it will operate with a
standard SCSI interface?
As far as the sound card question goes, I may be thinking of buying more than I
need for my immediate purposes. My setup at home probably is way underpowered
to do any half-serious digital recording and editing.
Thanks again for the info.
Best Regards,
Scott
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2873
To: JIMM CRAWFORD Date: 09/09/93 8:49p
Subj: Re: CD-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What I look for when I buy a shareware/public domain CD-ROM is a good
FILES.BBS for each sub-directory (and there must be sub-directories.
One adult disc manufacturer had none. That wasn't too handy). I look
for no dupes. This means that manufacturer must spend TIME tracking
them down. I certainly don't want the last four releases of something,
such as McAffee's SCAN when it appeared on the 3x ROM set, Shareware
Bonanza. In fact, I found only one good program in that set. It would
otherwise have been a waste of money. I don't mind seeing graphics,
both PCX and GIF, but don't duplicate them. Again, hunt down the
dupes. Some people rename files slightly and perhaps add their own
advertisement in the ZIP file, changing the size too. It's still a
dupe! ...
I, personally, am not interested in games. So I prefer ROMs
that keep them to a minimum.
... I like mapping programs, tutorials (for me personally these
tutorials should be programming in C and C++), graphics manipulation,
sound files (.WAV and .VOC) and editors of such. I like GOOD demos
that put VGA and SoundBlaster through its paces. I like text with a
good search engine, but I think that is beyond the scope of a sw/pd
disc. Hope this helps. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2874
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/09/93 8:52p
Subj: Re: Creative labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ron, the number I have for Creative Labs BBS has not answered in over a
week for me, but here it is: 1-408-428-6664. Perhaps they are only up
during the work day now, when most of us cannot call. If you learn of
another number, please post it. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2875
To: NORMAN HAVENS Date: 09/09/93 8:57p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thought I would remark on your discussion of Japanese dials and
switches on players and their perceived differences in sound quality.
When I was in Japan some 25 years ago, they sold two different types of
sound equipment. One was for the domestic (Japanese) market, the other
was for the export market (primarily the US in those days). Both types
were high quality, but the domestic equipment had many more dials and
switches. My perception was that they liked these things, even though
the changes in sound they provided normally were out of range of the
human ear. They like gadgets, the more dials and knobs, the better.
The ones for export sounded just as good, but we don't go for all those
gadgets. At least that was my personal theory then. -- regards, Roy
Cochrun
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From: ROBERT NEE Number: 2876
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/09/93 10:09a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>Hey people.. gotta question..
RP>Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
RP>the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
RP>teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I
could
RP>just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
If you would like to make the CDROM correspond to drive E use the /L:E
parameter on your MSCDEX command line. /L allows you to assign the drive
letter.
Robert F. Nee
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2877
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/07/93 5:18p
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> For those of us that don't have MCA or EISA (or local bus,
> BF> for that matter),
> BF> the IN-2000 is an excellent choice, and FAR superior overall to any of
the
> BF> Adaptec stuff (especially considering relative PRICING).
> I've not noticed any price premium for Adaptec.
A 1542C (current Adaptec closest equivilent to the IN-2000) runs almost half
again of typical IN-2000 pricing.
>You suggest that the Always is superior overall. In what way?
MUCH easier to setup. My FIRST IN-2000 was literally plug-and-play, much less
the SECOND one - while the pair of 154x controllers I replaced with IN-2000s
were a pain to set up, I NEVER could get the bleeding ASPI drivers to recognise
a 3'd drive no matter WHAT I tried, the performance was no better to a hair
SLOWER (seems to be drive limited in both cases, though), I had the "common"
problems with QEMM interferance, and Adaptec tech support (at the time, at
least) was non-existant.
> BF> which stuff is
> BF> overhyped on an ISA bus
> BF> anyway due to BUS throughput limitations under DMA.
> It is far from over-hyped. The bus throughput limitations are on
>MOTHERBOARD DMA, not busmastering. Busmastered DMA can proceed at the limit
of
>the ISA bus' ability to function. More importantly, it proceeds without the
>intervention of the CPU, which can be off doing more appropriate things.
Only if you run an OS that takes advantage of it - I run DOS, so it doesn't do
anything for me....
>but many of us know better than to stick with DOS.
I have no choice, as my primary application for this machine doesn't have
anything resembling an equal under any other OS.
* SLMR 2.1a * This IS my "other computer"!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2878
To: MARTIN GOMEZ Date: 09/07/93 6:04p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>3.Mantis Experimental Fighter & Civilization
Is this version of Civilization any different from the "normal" version
distributed on floppy?
* SLMR 2.1a * Faster modem = less time spent? Naah, more files grabbed.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2879
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/07/93 6:06p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
You need a "write once CD-ROM recorder" for that - a "WORM" drive will NOT
write to CD-ROM compatable media.
* SLMR 2.1a * Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers for President in '96!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2880
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/07/93 6:07p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Does anyone out there want to buy a brand new still in the box Panasonic
>CR-562-B double speed CD-ROM drive for $480.
You might want to mention that those are $Au - that price is HORRIBLE by U.S.
standards, and could generate some flames from the ignorant...
> Cairns, Tropical North Qld (3:640/531)
... that don't bother reading or don't understand where you're from....
* SLMR 2.1a * Caffine, Chocolate, Pizza, Fritos: THE 4 Food Groups.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2881
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/07/93 6:22p
Subj: TRANTOR SCSI CONTROLL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> save yourself some
> BF> $$ and a LOT of support grief and get an Allways IN-2000.
> Have you called their tech support lately?
Why? I haven't NEEDED Tech Support from Allways....
>I have heard several reports of people having had
>problems in the past with Adaptec when it comes to tech support, but
apparently
>they have really beefed up their support staff and their attitude has done an
>about face some time in the last three years.
Must have been in the last YEAR or less, then - I've not had my first IN-2000
much more than that - and it wasn't a case of "problems with tech support", it
was that if you weren't one of the major Adaptec DISTRIBUTORS, you didn't get
ANY Tech Support out of them.
* SLMR 2.1a * I'm the 5'th reincarnation of the Cat Curiosity killed...
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2882
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 09/07/93 6:23p
Subj: SOME DISK RECOMMENDATIONS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> There is something inherent in dos that makes getting the >
>information on the file size, date, etc.... VERY slow especially > after you
>exceed 4 or 5 hundred files in a directory. Some > programmers have
>found a way around this problem...
> BF> I can tell you how TBBS does it - it came up with a
> BF> "pseudo-directory" format
> BF> (text file description of available files) that allows
> BF> the time/date/etc. to be
> BF> INCLUDED in the description, thus limiting actual
> BF> accesses to when a download is performed....
>I was talking about the programming that builds such a list.
Unfortunately, that part either takes a while to compile the list
automagically, or takes a human to write the list....
* SLMR 2.1a * I believe in an individual's freedom to be happy.
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2883
To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 09/08/93 4:51p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Jeff Cutler to William Schneider, Jr. dated 09-06-93 ***
> to treat the CD-Rom Drive as a Network Drive. SMARTDRV probably won't
> let you use it on a Network drive (It isn't really but DOS thinks so.)
>
>
> Jeff
FYI: If my memory chips are working, I remember reading in PC Week and/or
InfoWorld that SmartDrv coming out with DOS 6.2 **WILL** cache CD-ROM drives.
Supposedly the SmartDrv coming out with DOS 6.2 (which will be SmartDrv 4.2) is
already available for free on CompuServe. Not sure if it does cache CD-ROM
though. I'm looking forward to that!
Mike
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From: BRYAN MITCHELL Number: 2884
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 09/09/93 9:51a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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> How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
> I am interested in purchasing it.
> Steve
Hi Steve,
I ordered mine from a guy in Florida named Joe Cossette. The name of the
company is:
Systems Integrations Technologies, Inc.
1280 South Powerline Road
Suite 171
Pompano Beach, FL 33069
305-968-4605
Cost was $25.00 for the Driver and for me since I live in Panama the
shipping was $4.95. He also has a BBS number that you can download the driver
from once he get's your order. I recommend it, as it has been working great.
He has also just finished the code for the audio support. Works like a charm.
Hope this helps. You've probably already gotten a reply from the states,
but us behind the power curve guys down in Panama, just want to try and help.
.....Bryan
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2885
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 09/10/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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>> I live in Canada and I am looking for the new 562B Panasonic
>> CD-ROM drive that is suppose to be multi-spin & compatible
>> with SBPro / SB16. Do you have the drive for sale or do you
>> have any idea where I can get it ( US or Canada ) for the best
>> possible price?
Yes, the 562B is a multi-spin system and will work with the SB16
just fine.
If your interested in any additional information, please feel free to
drop us a line via the fidonet address below or call us direct at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2886
To: DAVID KOLLE Date: 09/10/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: Snail Mail CD's Refer: NONE
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>> Greetings from OZ ...... Boris,
>> The Snail Mail parcel of CD's arrived on my doorstep on the
>> 1st of September and I noticed that your post mark was the
>> 30th of August !!!
>> Now that is sooommmee ffaaasstt snail !!!!
>> Thank you for your excellent service .... Kind regards
Wow !! David, that's a faster service then we have here in the states.
We mail a letter here to a city not more than 20 miles away and it sometimes
takes 5 days before it get's there.
Glad to hear everythings OK and hopefully we'll be hearing from you
again real soon.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2887
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/10/93 1:46a
Subj: Re: Cdrom systems Refer: NONE
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-=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-
BO>> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S
BO>> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00
>> etc etc etc.
BO>> Boris Osadciw
>>
>> Hi Boris,
>> Please explain about "KIT" What do you get for $195.00 ?
What this means Tom is that the system is complete with everything
you need to get the cd online. You get the controller, drive, cable,
drivers, manual and attaching hardware.
Interested in any additional information, please feel free to call us
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to help.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2888
To: MARK GLENN Date: 09/10/93 1:46a
Subj: Re: NEW DR.CD's Refer: NONE
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>> Hello Boris!
>> is the black box out yet?
Sorry to say, but NO. We have elected not to carry it as the author
has rasied his price to the point it isn't worth the kind of $$ he wants
for a shareware cd. It maybe be worth $75. in England, but no way is it
worth that in the U.S.
Boris Osadciw
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 2889
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/09/93 9:46p
Subj: red tape Refer: NONE
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Finally got through to Purchasing today (Thursday), and they tell me the
order was sent your way today (with check). It seems that for some
unknown reason it was passed back and forth between PC Support and
Purchasing for a while. Anyway, you should see it soon!
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 2890
To: PETER LASNE Date: 09/08/93 11:56p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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Hi, I noticed you talking about the CD32. There was a rumor that the CD32
would have an external SCSI connector - allowing CD32 owners to bypass the
"Amiga Inside" and use the internal CD-ROM drive as a SCSI device for another
computer (IBM, Mac, etc.). I was seriously thinking about getting - the
price I've seen quoted is $399.
You seem to be saying that the only way to run the CD32's CD-ROM externally
is to network the CD32 to another computer. Please explain what kind of
network you're talking about (like a LAN-type network)?
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 2891
To: PHILIP WHEAT Date: 09/09/93 12:10a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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RE: NEC CDR-25 on the Amiga 2500.
This is a SCSI connected external CD-ROM drive right? Please tell me where
you found it for only $159 dollars! (?)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 2892
To: JOHN PENDLETON Date: 09/09/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
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I think the reference was to the Commodore CD32, which has the double speed
CD-ROM drive built into it. The Atari Jaguar is a cartridge based system that
has CD-ROM only as an option (just like the Sega Genesis).
I noticed you mentioned that you are running a CD-ROM drive on an Atari
computer. I am planning to buy the multimedia Atari Falcon, and was
wondering what kind of CD-ROM drive you are using (and where in the world do
you find software for it)?
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 2893
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/09/93 7:43p
Subj: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
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Boris Osadciw wrote in a message to All:
BO> ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX -
BO> 216-225-6759
Ever consider making that 800 number a North America wide toll free line? Us
folks up here in Canada give you some business don't we? <grin>
Anyhow, thanks to your efforts for getting me a SCSI CDrom Drive but I found
one here locally that costs me the same if I ordered from the U.S.
Cheers...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2894
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/07/93 1:47p
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
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On 09-06-1993, TONY STOTT wrote...
TS> BH>This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads
TS> BH>any form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim
TS> BH>Helton. Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also,
TS>
TS> Bob, I have not heard of the cdromsale echo making it to
TS> Australia, so if you remove ads from this echo, the Australian
TS> contingent will be cut off from access to the many bargains found in
TS> the 10-line adverts. TS> On the other hand, if we in Zone 3 can get the
cdromsale, I
TS> would be happy to read both, and would also support your echo being
TS> "purified" by the removal of adverts.
TS>
TS> To other Zone 3 readers... any takers for getting the cdromsale
TS> echo brought in?
Yep, cutting out the adverts would sure be sad for us folks on "the
opther side". A lot of good prices get posted here, and a fair few of
us but regularly from advertisers in this echo. If it were to be cut,
or "purified" (great word), then we would be at a sore loss. On the
other hand, I'm sure everyone wouldn't mind the seperatiion into two
groups, as long as we manage to get this SALE confrence dropped over
here!
Food for thought eh?
Marc.
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From: KEN CHAN Number: 2895
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 7:18p
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
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Hello
Have anyone tried mail ordering cd-rom disks? What is the procedure
and most of all, can you trust them?
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2896
To: ANDY STEERE Date: 09/09/93 8:54p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC Refer: NONE
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Hi Andy!
On 09-04-93 Andy Steere wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> I am reading the CR-562-B instruction manual as I type:
..[data deleted]..
AS> In other words... DoubleSpeed=320ms(avg), SingleSpeed=380ms(avg).
AS> This may explain why there is some confusion about the CR-562-B
AS> and the 380ms figure. When operated in DV mode (not sure when
AS> the SingleSpeed mode is ever used), this is a 320ms drive.
Yeah, well a photocopy of a spex sheet was the only doco I've ever
managed to see on the CR562B and it gave the figures I posted.
Thanx for the update!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2897
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 09/09/93 8:58p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
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Hi Christian!
On 09-06-93 Christian Bourguignon wrote to Rowan Evans...
CB> So the 562B/563 now is compatible with SBPro?
Always has been, always will be!
CB> Do you have any such idea where I can purchase this drive in Canada?
Nope but there are some US dealers that haunt this echo that sell it...
Try a msg to Mike Shannon, Boris Osadiciw or Ismail Arslingay...
CB> Is it OS/2 2.1 compatible?
I picked up an OS/2 driver the other day... am yet to unpack it so I
can't say yea or nay......
CB> One last question, what is the difference between 562B & the 563
How does 1 sound?? Or 24 letters??
Seriously, I am informed that the CR563 is an OEM model number for
the drive and is allocated to those that Creative Labs sell, the
CR562B is the model number for general release. CR503 is the model
number for the SCSI version!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2898
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/09/93 8:59p
Subj: Anatomist¬ Refer: NONE
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Hi Michael!
On 09-07-93 Michael Mulcahy wrote to Rowan Evans...
MM> Well Mate, I didn't exceed the TEN line maximum per the
MM> echo rules
This is only for ADs, not for technical discussions!
MM> and I didn't continue to send page after page
MM> of pontification about "To Caddy or Not to Caddy"! <g>
Its important to some people.... Especially those who are about to
buy a CD_ROM drive!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2899
To: DAVID CHILDRESS Date: 09/09/93 9:19p
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
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Hi David!
On 09-06-93 David Childress wrote to All...
DC> I have a few questions that I would like to ask about CD-ROM systems.
DC>
DC> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and single-session?
A single session drive is *UNABLE* to see any additional sessions on
a multisession CD-ROM.... Kodak Photo CD allows for multiple sessions
of photos on a CD-ROM (just so you can fill it up - pretty useless if
all Photo CD could do was hold 36 photos!)....
DC> 2). Is there any problem hooking up a SCSI compatable CD-ROM system
DC> to a IDE type computer?
When you say IDE here, I assume you're talking about an IDE hard drive...
There should be no problems... I've used both a Pro Audio Spectrum sound
card with SCSI and an Adaptec 1542B SCSI host adapter in a machine that
had a 120Mb IDE HDD as the boot drive....
DC> 3). Does anyone have a good recommendation on a CD-ROM system\bundle?
Try one of the Creative Labs kits with the SB 16 ASP and the double speed
Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive.... Also good are the Media Vision kits,
but the cheaper ones use a SONY bus rather than the SCSI you'd expect...
DC> 4). What should be considered the minimum access times to look for?
MPC Level 2 spec is 320ms average access... The lower the better (and the
more expensive!)....
DC> 5). Anything else you care to mention that would be helpful? Your
DC> .02 matters. <G>
Coming from Australia, due to exchange rate conversions, Its worth $10.00!
Cheers & Beers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2900
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 09/09/93 9:29p
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
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On 09-05-93 Daniel Prince wrote to All...
DP> My brother has found that some of his games (especially Sherlock
DP> Holmes II) don't sound very good on his 8-bit Sound Blaster. He
DP> was wondering if switching to a 16-bit card would make these
DP> games sound better even if they aren't written specifically for a
DP> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
DP> 8-bit card sound better?
Shouldn't!
DP> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
DP> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
DP> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
DP> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
Either/or... Both are good cards... The SB 16/16 ASP has the advantage
of being able to add a daughter card for wave table synthesis... Which
is currently the domain of the GUS and Turtle Beach cards...
DP> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
DP> Blaster 16 and the ASP version?
The ASP chip... Allows you to do hardware assisted compression/decompression
of recorded sounds... not currently used by any commercial software....
DP> What is the difference between the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
Pass....
DP> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
DP> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
DP> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
DP> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
Not real big and yes, it can be loaded high.... BUT the PAS16 is only
SB 2.0 compatible (8-bit sound)....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2901
To: BERTRAND SCHMITT Date: 09/09/93 9:36p
Subj: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
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Hi Bertrand!
On 09-04-93 Bertrand Schmitt wrote to All...
BS> Here is an incoming message from Switzerland. ( fasten your seatbelt )
Here is a reply from Australia, hang onto your hat!
BS> I'm thinking of buying the Sound Blaster 16ASP Multimedia Upgrade Kit.
BS> Up to now, I was only able to find a 16 without the ASP version.
BS>
BS> I read in a magazine "TILT" that the latest kit that Creative Labs
BS> made was with the 16ASP and the Panasonic CDR 652B. Is is able of double
BS> speed and an amazing 600Kb/s with some games ( Yes, it was written
BS> black on white).
Make that the CR563 (OEM model # for the Panasonic CR562B) and you've
got it.... And *YES* I have seen The 7th Guest install program state
that one machine's CR563 was capable of 612Kbps (another was 584Kbps,
mine was only 548Kbps - bummer....).....
BS> The question is: Has anybody never heard of it ?
I've heard of it! I bought the Business MM U/G kit for work.... Had the
16 ASP and CR563 with STW MM Encyc., Grandma & Me, Creative Sounds,
Authoware Star, Macromind Action, Carmen SD... All for $A1299.00!
BS> Does it exist?
Durn tootin' it exists... plus I have put together a CR562B and SB 16 ASP
for home... much cheaper than the MM U/G kit......
BS> Where can I find it ( in Switzerland perhaps ) ?
The US dealers would probably sell you one....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2902
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/09/93 9:38p
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
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Hi Robert!
On 09-06-93 Robert Prohl wrote to All...
RP> Hey people.. gotta question..
RP>
RP> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it
RP> as the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable
RP> for teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I
RP> could just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
RP>
RP> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
RP> autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
Tell us what CD-ROM drive (and controller card) you're running....
These things are *EXTREMELY* manufacturer specific!
o
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From: JOHN HILVERT Number: 2903
To: SIMON COGGINS Date: 09/09/93 8:22a
Subj: RE: CD-ROM VS. DISK VERSI Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Simon Coggins to Ron Findling <=-
> Presumably though if they ARE adding scenes to the
> CD version not in
> the disk version, that costs money for them to do, and
> they should
> be allowed to charge extra because of that. ...And
SC> But then you must remember that they don't loose money on breaching
SC> the copyright crap on the games.. (Not unless you have 650meg free on
SC> your HD..
Without that copyright "crap", Sierra would not even think about being
in the software business, let alone CD-ROM versions.
I am getting to the stage where I am turning my back on software companies
that do not bring out CD-ROM versions at about the same time as the
HD versions. Lucas Arts' stands out here in bringing out Day of the
Tentacle - at least in the US - at about the same time as the floppy
disc version.
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2904
To: BRAD LEWIS Date: 09/08/93 9:56a
Subj: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C noway Refer: NONE
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G'day Brad, In a message on <Sep 04>, you said :
BL> About a year ago I purchased a SBPro mutimidia kit with an
BL> Internal CD-Rom drive Model 521C and You would not believe
BL> the different stories I get as I go from store to store
BL> with my question.
BL> I have been told that Creative Labs still includes the
BL> same CD-rom drive in the kit as it did back then. I have my
BL> doubts. I bought Nightowl 9 and found I could not read it;
BL> so, I began my quest to find out why.
BL> I phoned the Nightowl distributers and they told me that
BL> they are just starting to hear about this and are
BL> considering releasing another version of 9 so the older
I just dont understand any of this.
I have almost the very first SBPRO/CDROM released by Creative Labs. Mine was
purchased in Singapore about the time of the official release over two years
ago.
I have no problems with NIght Owls 9 or any other disks I have used.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2905
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 09/08/93 10:06a
Subj: Sb-16 Refer: NONE
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G'day Steve, In a message on <Sep 01>, you said :
SG> So, if I have a SoundBlaster-16 (which I will soon have) I
SG> can just hook the CD ROM into the card, right?
Yes, provided that it is a Panasonic with the Creative Labs AT Bus interface.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2906
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/08/93 10:10a
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
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G'day Alan, In a message on <Sep 05>, you said :
AW> Hello All!
AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM
AW> with a Mono 8 bit SB card?
AW> The CD-ROM drive is working fine, but I want to enable the
AW> sound through my old mono SB card (Ver 2). Do I connect the
AW> CD-ROM drive to it's controller card with the 4 wire cable,
AW> and then plug a connecter from the external red and white
AW> jacks on the controller card to the line-in on the SB
That is not a line in. It is a Mike input.
I seriously doubt that you will get any benefit from doing this.
I think you would get much better results to replace tha SB with the SBPro or
better yet get the SB16.
Laurie
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From: GEOFF HOWSE Number: 2907
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 09/08/93 8:20p
Subj: SB16ASP+CD in Win Refer: NONE
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VZ>Has anyone had problems with running the SB16-ASP in windows?... I can
VZ>get the sound... al I hear is the begining of the tune and then silenc
VZ>
VZ>I have done everything posible!!...
VZ>
VZ>Also.. does anyone know how to install Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
VZ>CD-ROM?
VZ>
Hello Victor,
My SB16ASP/Waveblaster & 563 CD ROM installation went smoothly using the
defaults. I think I had to run a separate setup for Windows and then
enable the card output with MIDI Mapper, otherwise nothing else special
that I can think of.
I'm very happy with my setup. I have had no compatibility problems with
any of the stuff I have (Monkey Island, Carmen, Loom, Encyclopedias,
Grandma and Me etc.) On Night Owl 9 there are some games and demos that
recognise the SB16ASP and sound a lot better for it. I haven't tried any
of the new commercial games that are written for 16 bit cards (yet). My
main interest is in the MIDI side of things (hence the WB).
Maybe if you describe your setup in a bit of detail someone might be able
to help you with the Windows setup. Also you might post a message on the
Computamart BBS (02) 906 8392 - you're sure to get some answers there.
As far as the Secret Weapons installation goes, SWOTL.BAT (on the CD ROM)
creates a directory structure on your hard disk. I found that the game
needed a few DOS files like CHOICE.EXE, SUBST.EXE and SHARE.EXE that I had
deleted from my DOS directory. Once I put them back, SWOTL ran like it
should (although the graphics and sound are definitely "first generation".
Not what you'd expect from a CD ROM game.)
Best of luck! Geoff
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From: GEOFF HOWSE Number: 2908
To: MIKE , BORIS ET AL Date: 09/08/93 8:42p
Subj: A FEW CD'S . . . . . Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00 Mayo Clinic MPC...............
MS> 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00 Mega Clipart (New!)...........
MS> 7th Guest.....................45.00 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......
MS> 9000 Sounds (New!)............30.50 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......
MS> Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....
MS> Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00 Microsoft Musical Instruments.
MS> American Business Phonebk 93..39.00 MIDI Music Shop...............
MS>
Hey Mike/Boris et al,
IS there such thing as a CD version of the Rolling Stone Record Guide?
(published by Random House, I think). What a great application for CD ROM!
Imagine .... searching 50,000 entries for Dave Marsh's review of Born to
Run or Ben Fong Torres review of Zuma and Tonight's the Night. Any luck?
GH.
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From: AUSTEN EVANS Number: 2909
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/08/93 11:52a
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>What I don't like about sierra is they charge the
>cd version the exact
>same price as the disk version when their making
>more profit on the cd
RF> Presumably though if they ARE adding scenes to
RF> the CD version not in
RF> the disk version, that costs money for them to do, and they should
RF> be allowed to charge extra because of that. ...And
RF> more than one might
I think that it's a two edged sword, while the CD-ROM version may have more on
it (sounds, graphics etc..) so one would assume that a higher price is
justified, the manufacturers don't need to charge this higher price as every
CD-ROM sale is one CD-ROM program in circulation, where-as every (floppy) disk
based program may be copied (pirated) many times.
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2910
To: ROBERT STEPHENS Date: 09/09/93 7:40a
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> and Robert Stephens was heard mumbling to SEAN TUDOR <=-
RS> I have a PAS16 myself, but with the SB16 you should be able to set the
RS> volume levels of the mixer from all different sources, for example
RS> with the PAS16 i can set the FM volume, the DIgital volume, in
RS> cd-input volume (and a heap more), i'd say you have to lower the FM
RS> volume before you play T7G, make a batch file to do this (check up your
RS> utilities that came with the SB16), its much easier.
Thanks Robert. I increased the VOC volume setting and now everything is
running fine.
Cya,
Sean.
... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ...
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From: SCOTT REDMAN Number: 2911
To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 09/09/93 6:51p
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I use HyperDisk 4.60 now and it is the fastest Cache I've ever used
-> but it does not seem to Cache my CD-ROM drive. I have HyperDisk loade
-> MSCDEX (the latest version that comes with DOS 6) but I can read a GI
-> the CD and then go to read it again and it takes just all long the 2n
-> the 1st, any hints? Thanks, BYE!!!
Yeah Doug, I don't beleive that Hyperdisk supports CD-ROM's, although
here on my BBS I tried this.....first, logged onto my f: drive (CD-ROM),
and then did a DIR from DOS. It read the disc and then displayed the
directory. Then I did DIR again, and it didn't look at the disc the 2nd
time....who knows what that means! <G>
There is a nice program called Speed Cache Plus from Norton....designed
specifically for caching CD-ROM's. I'm using that now, and it works
great!
*** Scott ***
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From: RICK SAMUELS Number: 2912
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/09/93 9:38p
Subj: Adaptec and CDR-501 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
08 Sep 93, Chris Wood writes to All:
CW> I load this in config.sys: ASPI4DOS.SYS /D /L
CW> When I try to load MSCDEX.EXE in my autoexec.bat, it looks for a device
CW> name in the /D: parameter and cannot find one, obviously because ASPI4DOS
CW> does not allow you to specify one.
CW> What am I doing wrong? Do I need another driver for the Panasonic Drive
CW> after ASPI4DOS? I can't get MSCDEX to load no matter what I do.
You need the ASPI CD-Rom driver, not just ASPI4DOS
Rick Samuels
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From: STEPHEN COCHRAN Number: 2913
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/09/93 2:12p
Subj: MISLEADING ANSWERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LB> The Magneto Optical is a totally different thing and not in any way
LB> related to the floptical which is only available in 20MB and 128MB
LB> flavours. The Magneto optical is in the 500MB+ range. The Media used
LB> is also totally different .Uses the laser to free up an element
LB> which can be changed magnetically.
Ooops! More and more mistakes.
Floptical - Floppy drive with optical positioning tracks burned onto
the disk. Basically, a 20MB 3 1/2" floppy. Optical tracks are used
for more accurate head positioning ONLY, no data is stored on
O-tracks. Can read/write normal 3 1/2" floppies.
Magneto Optical - 3 1/2" CD type disk, using a laser, magnetic field
and phase change media to yield a REWRITABLE CD type media with
capacities of 128MB and 256MB (some vendors, such as Ocean). Latest
models can read O-ROM (3 1/2" CD ROM, read only) formats.
Note: There exist 5 1/4" Magneto Optical drives that yield in the 600+
MB range, but these are not very popular, and the 3.5" media is
really making inroads for general data storage purposes.
CD-ROM - Requires special machinery to write onto a CD Blank. This
includes a CD-ROM mastering "press" (not a press at all), and a FAST
computer with a FAST hard drive that can provide a SUSTAINED 300KB
per second transfer rate WITH NO BREAKS in the data stream. If the
data stream is interrupted, you get to throw the blank away. Not
rewritable at all. However, additional information can be added to
the end of the disk (Multisession: Photo-CD for example).
WORM - Write Once Read Many. Some of these can read (not write)
CD-ROM disks.
Hope this helps end the confusion.
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From: STEPHEN COCHRAN Number: 2914
To: ED YEE Date: 09/09/93 2:16p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EY> A pioneer WORM drive claims to be compatible. I saw an add for it.
EY> Maybe, it's proprietary.
It only reads CD-ROMs, it does not write them. The most affordable
unit for writing CD-ROMs costs about $6500 (US).
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From: MARK ULRICH Number: 2915
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/09/93 7:48p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me your CD-ROM catalog:
Mark Ulrich
2525 Bay Area Blvd, Suite 450
Houston, TX 77058
Thanks,
Mark
Mark
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From: MICHEL ROMY Number: 2916
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 09/05/93 12:25p
Subj: Re: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> controller as it plugs sraight into the SB Pro. Don't know of an
-> external,
-> but post a msg to Wee Yung this echo and he'll certainly
-> reply........
Thanks for your help !
Mike
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From: BERTRAND SCHMITT Number: 2917
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI Date: 09/07/93 12:14p
Subj: Trident 8900c Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (29 Aug 93) Rowan Evans wrote to Giuliano Maciocci Jr....
RE> Hi Giuliano!
RE>
RE> On 08-22-93 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. wrote to Rowan Evans...
RE>
RE> You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of
RE> displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows....
RE> SVGA is basically anything over a 64Kb VGA card (640x480x16)
RE> ...
RE> If you want 640x480x64K colours, you'll need the driver for the
RE> Trident card..... You should have it on the diskette that came with your
RE> card!
Hi there,
I'd like to tell you that the Trident card isn't able to display more than
256 colors at a time ( except for the new generation ones ; but they've got
other names ).
So, I'm sorry, but I think that it's impossible to find such a driver...
To help you to forget about this, think about that.
Try once Windows with a 800x600 in 256 colors resolution. It's slow, isn't it ?
Think about how it would be with 65,536 colors, at least, two times slower...
Best advice: If you want a lot of colors, change you card. Try the
Tseng ET4000 HI, it's cheap enough and a little bit faster than the Trident
( which is the slowest one !!! )
Read you soon,
Bertrand
P.S: This message should go to Giuliano Maciocci Jr...
Perhaps has it land to the wrong place, sorry...
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From: BERTRAND SCHMITT Number: 2918
To: GAETANO CALIA Date: 09/07/93 5:45p
Subj: Re: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (05 Sep 93) Gaetano Calia wrote to Bertrand Schmitt...
GC> You can buy it in Switzerland at the InterDiscount, but Swiss prices
GC> are
GC> ridiculous !!!
I see what you are talking about...
Indeed, thanks.
GC>
GC> Greets, Gaetano
GC>
Bye
Bertrand
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From: BERTRAND SCHMITT Number: 2919
To: GAETANO CALIA Date: 09/07/93 9:34p
Subj: Suisse ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (05 Sep 93) Gaetano Calia wrote to Tom Arruba...
Hi there,
You seem to have problems with you CD drive; Sorry about that.
I've got a question: Where did you get your drive from ? And how much did it
cost you ?
I'm asking you those questions because I'm going to buy the 16ASP kit with this
drive ( CDR 652-B or something like this ). And I'm looking for the best price.
An other question: What do you think of it ( the kit ) ?
About me:
I'm also from Switzerland: Neuchâtel. You can reach me by netmail at:
2:301/315.16
or by the CD-ROM echo ( the one I used for this message ).
GC> You're my very last hope, since nobody here seems to understand that
GC> failure !!!
Ah ha, he's your last hope...
It's right, you've got a strange failure. Perhaps try to get newer drivers.
Cheers.
Bertrand
P.S: Do you speak french ?
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From: TOM BROWN Number: 2920
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/07/93 12:55p
Subj: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
OK. Here is an address for you.
Brown
Unit: 20195 Box:1578
APO AE 09165
or Fido: 2:244/6204.1 +49-6181-574359
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Number: 2921
To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 09/08/93 10:06p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks Jeff. I have just about gave up on this CD cache thing. Over the
weekend, I bought Norton cache, and it didn't work either! I've got a
fast enough drive (320ms/300kb), I just thought I'd see what it would
do. Thanks again!
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From: FRED FINDLING Number: 2922
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/10/93 3:05a
Subj: 7TH GUEST. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AQ>Making any sort of copy infringes basic copyright laws - I would sug-
AQ>gest you check closer to find out what the laws in your country and state
AQ>are. Most people here still think its OK to copy their CDs to tape to
AQ>listen to in the car - I guess it's just a convenient understanding of
AQ>the law.
AQ>It is also illegal to make backup copies of computer software unless it is
AQ>specifically stated in the software's license agreement.
Here in the U.S. it is generally held that making copies of anything
is acceptable as long as the copies are only for YOUR conmsumption. Copying
a CD on cassette for use in your car is acceptable as long as it is
for YOUR car and YOUR use. Computer software manufacturers generally view
it the same way, that people DO have a reasonable right to back their
files up. Some even go as far as advising their customers to make copies
of the orginal distribution disks and to mount the programme on your HD
from the copies you made. Generally speaking, licensing agreements here
allow licensee to use the software at a single site and to make backup
copies for use at that site. However, use of the software on a network
where multiple site or node access may be possible is usually not pro-
vided for unless they are specifically provided for in the licensing
agreement. (many programmes are offered in "LAN" editions where that
is provided for, although they are generally much higher priced than
single user editions) But in the end, it is usually held that infringe-
ment only takes place if the software ends up being distributed to
third parties. (who obviously aren't licensed to use the product)
Here, actual physical copies of something are not that important, what IS
important is that you have a license to use the product and that you
don't get third parties involved.
............Fred
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 2923
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/09/93 9:04a
Subj: Fax Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ismail
I send a fax to ask about some CD's do you receive it?
Please answer here
thanks
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2924
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 09/10/93 11:23a
Subj: Write your own CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SL>Hi Jeff,
SL>
SL>You were saying ...
SL>
SL> JW> Cost: $50 set up charge per original.
SL> JW> $100 for each CD.
SL> JW> For example, it is $150 for 1 CD, $250 for 2 CDs, $350 for
SL>3 CDs, etc.
SL> JW>
SL> JW> That's less than $0.25 per megabyte!
SL> JW>
SL> JW> SysOps get a $25 per CD discount! 1 CD for only $125! 2
SL>CDs for
SL> JW> $200! Get multiple copies for additional security and save
SL>$$$.
SL> JW>
SL> JW> All prices are in US funds and include Priority delivery
SL>within the
SL> JW> US. COD charges are extra.
SL> JW>
SL> JW> Call for Canadian and overseas delivery.
SL>
SL>Would you mind giving me an extra bit of info?
SL>Do these prices hold for Australia (apart from delivery costs)?
SL>
SL>Regards, Sunny.
SL>
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SL> * Origin: (3:712/401)
Um, I didn't write that... At least I don't think unless I've got a split
personality... I think I got mixed up with someone else...
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From: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Number: 2925
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/09/93 8:06p
Subj: CD SIZE? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Terry Menzies to All <=-
TM> Hi.
TM> This is all new to me....
TM> I am looking to buy a cd rom drive. The one I am looking at uses a max
TM> of 680 mb disks, is this ok or should I go for something bigger?
All CD-ROM drives use 680MB disks. That is the current state of technology.
TM> What is the average CD GAME size?
With the exception of 7th Guest, most CD-games run anywhere from 175MB-300MB.
TM> The unit is selling for A$399 and comes with sofware drivers for use
TM> with Windows and plays music CD's.
TM> The guy told me that it's access time is 350ms and is Kodak Photo CD
TM> compatible..(Whatever that is.)
350ms is reasonably fast. Overall, I would say it is a pretty good drive.
Kodak Photo CD is a system highly advertised here in the States. What it is,
is that you can put your 35mm stills on a CD-ROM (actually, have Kodak to
the mastering) and view it on your TV (provided that you have the Kodak
video CD-player) or computer (provided that you have the proper CD-ROM and
software).
--/\/\ike B. (Internet: mbernstein@turbo.kean.edu) from NJ, USA
... All power of fancy over reason is a degree of insanity. - S. Johnson
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 2926
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/10/93 12:09p
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk Cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> The Mitsumi CD-ROM Works with OS/2 2.1
RR> you don't need special drivers?
Yes, you do need special 3rd party drivers. They are Noller drivers and Florida
drivers obtainable by reading the OS2HW echo. I myself have a PAnasonic SCSI
CDROM Drive now and don't have the hasstle of getting Mitsumi drivers that take
forever to come in the mail.
Cheers...
Chris -Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 2927
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 09/09/93 11:20a
Subj: Catalogs wanted Refer: NONE
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CB=> I love CD software and if some of you out there have ad CDs for sal
CB=>leave me a note and I will tell you where to send it to.
Where do we send it to?
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2928
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: CD PHOTOS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM> BTW, do you have a CD called "Global Explorer" .. I think it is
GM> a "zoom to street level" global map. If you know it, does it have
GM> decent quality photo-reproduction maps and panning, and is it
GM> truly global (I'm in Australia)?
Greg,
Yes, we always have them in stock. It has very detailed maps, right down
to street level for the bigger cities, and does cover Australia. In stock
at $93, or we'll meet the lowest price you find in here.
Talk to ya later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2929
To: GARY KORPAN Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GK>Mike, are you coming up to the big computer swap meet next Saturday Sept 11
i
GK>Vancouver (actually in Richmond)?
Love to, but we have a car show that weekend. Gonna try for one last
trophy with the Pantera before the snow comes. 8)
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2930
To: MIKE MORGAN Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: CD order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM>Hello Boris, well it has been over a month now and I still haven't got
MM>the CD's I sent you a money order for. Have you got any news for me it
MM>has been a over a week since my last long distance phone call to you.
Mike,
If you are searching for a certain title, feel free to give us a call toll-
free at 1-800-767-1284. Over 340 titles in stock with fast, same-day
shipping. Give us a call anytime if there is anything we can help you
with.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2931
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: NEW CD'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS |
DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$48
DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2932
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #4: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! |
Gigabyte Gold.......$19 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$19 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Return to the Moon..$26 Find-It Webster.....$38 Great Wonders.......$32
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 2933
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 5:08p
Subj: Macintosh Titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
C-3 Production Systems has 31 CD-ROM titles currently in stock. Can't post
them all here now, but if you are interested, give me a call or post a reply
and I'll get you a catalog out.
C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
76906
915-944-7187
Some include: Shareware/Public Domain/Freeware
World Atlas
CIA Fact Book
US History
Sherlock Holmes
much more!
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 2934
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/10/93 9:10a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-09-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to David Childress...
Thanks Leslie for your help on my CD-ROM questions!
TTYL,
-_Dave_-
... OFFLINE 1.50 "My other computer is a HAL 9000"
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From: LARRY GUNTER Number: 2935
To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 09/09/93 6:45p
Subj: Sony 535 Problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TC>Help... I have two sony 535 Cd-ROM drives. One will read all my disks
TC>SMS 1-2-3 & NightOwl 7-8-9, the second drive doesn't like them all and
TC>ejects them when it can't read them. It is mainly night 8 & SMS 2 I have
TC>the trouble with.
I had similar trouble with one of my 535s and found the solution was to
take it apart and clean the lens. After that, no more read errors.
Being a SYSOP is not a Hobby, it's an Endless JOB! :) Larry
* OLX 2.2 * Where are those flashbacks they promised me?
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From: BOB PAYNE Number: 2936
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/10/93 10:38p
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk Cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Chris Wood, Roberto Reyes said:
> The Mitsumi CD-ROM Works with OS/2 2.1
> you don't need special drivers?
I'd like to know how you do that..??
OS/2 2.1 does not support the Mitsumi Drives.
unless they have came out with a driver in the past 48hrs..
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2937
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/10/93 1:02a
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Kevin!
08 Sep 93, Kevin Plummer writes to Pat Rickerson:
PR>> This CD has been going for as much as $450 so lets make a deal before
PR>> it is gone. Pat
KP> Busty babes going for $450.00 ?? I paid $25.00 for mine. ?? What gives
?
Well you sure are lucky. Do you know if it is the collector's item? Mine is!
Pat
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From: KIN NG Number: 2938
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/09/93 3:18p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
I agree with your assessment and continue with the good work.
--- Maximus 2.00
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2939
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 09/08/93 5:31a
Subj: TALK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey, are you playing an adventure now? I was thinking about getting i
-> conquests of camelot or something like that. If you'd like to play to
-> know.
Hi Rachel!,
Well, I'm still working on Dagger of Amon Ra... <g>
I got to the end, figured out the murderer and the dagger thief, but it
says not enough evidence, and didn't interrogate the witnesses enough..
Soooo, I end up like really bloody Swiss Cheese.. <g>
I've had my computer since '90 so byt the time I got going into
adventures, Sierra quit producing the EGA based games.
Luckily, I manged to collect ALL the SQ's first! THAT is my favorite
series!
ooops, managed... <g> Anyhow, I want to get Betrayal at Krondor, now
this is a cool game!
Anyhow, what's Biomenace? Never heard of it. Do you like Wing Commander?
That is my favorite computer game hands down! It has a ice mix of FRP
with all the arcade/simulation you can muster!
TTYL<
Henry
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2940
To: PETER SAMULEVICH Date: 09/11/93 12:45a
Subj: Hitachi Drivers for OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter Samulevich wrote in a message to All:
PS> Does anyone have the drivers for the Hitachi 1700S? I
PS> would be more than happy to call your board and d/l
PS> them, or FREQ them from you. As it stands right now, I
PS> have to use a VDM to use the CD-ROM and there's a lot of
PS> software that I really cannot use because of this. HELP!!!
The only place I know that these are available is from Todd
Enterprise for $45. 717-343-1040 is their number.
Maker sure these drivers will work with the 1700S. I know they work with 3500,
3600 and 3700 internal models.
»Let us be glad and rejoice, for the marriage of the Lamb is come,(Rev. 19:7)«
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2941
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/08/93 8:06p
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
RP>autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
RP>
DEVICE=C:\FDCD.SYS /D:MSCD000 (your config.sys file must have this)
..........
C:\MSCDEX.EXE /E /V /D:MSCD000 /M:10
.......... your autoexec.bat file must have this
both of these files must state the SAME (drive) letter. You can make it
anything you want.
you may also want to add the statement:
LASTDRIVE=Z
this way you can use any of of the 26 letters !! that already have NOT
be designated as either floppy or physical drives
* KingQWK 1.05 * I object to sex on TV, I keep falling off!
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2942
To: BRUCE CLAUNCH Date: 09/09/93 7:17p
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BC>Thanks for the info, but still no help.
BC>I have all that was said, changed slots and watch for power interuption
have you considering the terminators as a possibility ?? (only if SCSI)
* KingQWK 1.05 * "Not tonight honey..I have a modem."
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2943
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/09/93 7:22p
Subj: Re: Drive speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my BBS.
BO>>> I don't 4BO>>> have to be sure that it will be able to keep up with
people
BO>>> downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS & the serial port is locked
Colin
consider this internal scsi drive
IBM / Toshiba Internal CD-ROM #3101 1/2Ht SCSI $199
150K Transfer Rate 250ms
These were recently replaced by the current double spin 3401's
RJ Kulman 718 968 9167
* KingQWK 1.05 * 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 2944
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/10/93 12:27p
Subj: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>"piss contest" have to do with that? Go back to your
DR>corner, and stay there until you learn how to be a good boy.
DR>... "Sleeping with the Enemy" -- Starring William J. Clinton
I'm sick of reading crap like this (from everyone). Do you think
it enhances your reputation as a dealer to bicker with people?
If you can't talk about CDROMS, go somewhere else!
* SLMR 2.1 * Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 2945
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/10/93 12:32p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SC>1) Can I access audio CD's with only the interface card
SC>that comes with the drive?
You don't need anything special to access audio, except you'll
want headphones or external speakers, audio cd's don't play
through the pc speaker.
SC>2) Is the supplied interface card all I need to access such ROM's as
SC>encyclopedias, etc., or will I need a sound card? In
SC>particular, will I have to have a sound board to access
SC>sound files and graphics in an encyclopedia?
A sound card will not help graphics. A sound card will help
playing sound files. Whether a sound card is necessary, I think,
depends on the encyclopdia.
SC>4) If I get a sound card with a SCSI port built in, will
SC>the SCSI port work with the Mitsumi drive and allow me to
SC>get rid of the drive's dedicated IF?
No. The LU005 Mitsumi is not a SCSI drive, so a SCSI controller
will not control it. (The LU005 uses a unique control format.)
* SLMR 2.1 * "Sweet land of liberty?" Not.
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From: DAVID CHANDLER Number: 2946
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 4:03a
Subj: Cd rom manufacturers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Who manufacturers CD-Roms and how much does the process cost? I am a
software author and have a program with data enough to fill a CD. Any
leads?
--David Chandler
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From: FRANCOIS DESROSIERS Number: 2947
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 10:04p
Subj: Sound card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am a little but just a little off-topic....
I want to buy a sound card but I see that some offer a CD-ROM
connection.
For now I use a Roland CD-ROM (seem to be the same thing that a
Panasonic) that is connected to a SCSI card.
What is the advantage to connect a CD-ROM with a sound card or the
disavantages to not connect it!
Will I loose something if my CD-ROM is not connected to the sound card.
Thanks
Francois
___
■ SLMR 2.0 #T348 ■ MQK MAil door.... almost perfect......
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From: MICHAEL GRAY Number: 2948
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/10/93 11:25p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have just downloaded the smartdrive version you mentioneed and it does not
cach CD_ROM's. In fact in the documents included it says the new version is
slower than the one that comes with DOS 6. Well, I guess we will just have to
keep waiting :(
Internet : MIKEG@MINTIR.NEW-ORLEANS.LA.US.
Fido-Net : Michael Gray @ 1:396/11
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From: LEN GLADSTONE Number: 2949
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/09/93 7:24p
Subj: Creative labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RY>Anyone have the phone number for creative labs bbs here in the US?
Their new Number is (405) 742-6660 BBS & (405) 742-6622 tech support. They
recently moved their BBS to Oklahoma from California! Customer Service is still
(800) [998-5227 & 998-1000].
Len Gladstone
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 2950
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 09/10/93 1:00a
Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info on the 562b and over the last month there have been some
interesting things happening in my retail area. For one there is a local dealer
who has the 562b for $360 Cdn, which when you factor in the exchange rate is a
fair price. The second is that I managed to have a pretty fair deal fall into
my lap. Up here, north of the 49th, CD prices have been for the most part on
the high side. Well, a local dealer was selling a Sony C31a for $250, where as
a discount chain who advertises "if any one beats our prices you get 55% of the
difference or it is yours free", well, they had the 31a listing for $449, so I
ended up getting the 31a for $140, which is not so bad. Yes I know it is slow,
but for now it will just be a throw away. So when the CD tech really starts to
heat up, and it looks like CD/IDE and quadra spin will be the next major tech
leaps then it won't really be much of a loss. And with local bus VGA, so far I
have had no real problems with the mega monsters like T7G.
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2951
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/10/93 10:33p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I had wriiten to you asking if the Mitsumi 350ms CD-ROm had good graphics.
I was also asking if you though it was slow.
If anyone else can to answer my question, feel free.
s
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2952
To: HEATHER KRAUSE Date: 09/10/93 5:06p
Subj: Re: Creative labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Heather, because you posted the -6660 number (I had -6668, which quit
answering a couple weeks ago), I was able to get the NEW Creative Labs
number. The number you had gives the new number and its location, then
hangs you up. It is in Stillwater, Texas, and is 1-405-742-6660.
(They like that 6660 number, don't they?) -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2953
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 5:07p
Subj: New creative labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Creative Labs has a new number. It is located in Stillwater, Texas,
and is 1-405-742-6660. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2954
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 5:22p
Subj: More c.labs #S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, first, it is Stillwater, Oklahoma, not the state to the south.
Sorry about that (is there a Stillwater, Texas?)
...
The new number is 14,400 bps, 8n1. The other new support numbers for
Creative Labs are: 1-405-742-6622 (voice) and 1-405-742-6633 (Fax).
If you participate in their beta test program, you must either fax bug
reports to them or mail them to: Creative Labs Inc., Attn: WinNT
Support, 1523 Cimarron Plaza, Stillwater, Oklahoma 74075.
...
regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: CHIP MORROW Number: 2955
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 5:36p
Subj: El Cheapo CD disks gone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FYI - The five el cheapo CDROM disks that I advertised yesterday
(Hall of Fame, two game CD's, a sampler, and Natl. Geo. Mammals)
were all sold here locally about 10 minutes ago. Thanks.
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From: ELVIS CHOW Number: 2956
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 3:21p
Subj: CDROM Purchase Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am thinking of buying a CDROM but at a little disadvantage in knowing what is
available and the type of prices I can expect to find. Hopefully I can glean
some info here to help. Here's the spec's I need to adhere to:
- must be EXTERNAL as it must be shared between two machines
- must work under OS2 and DOS/WINDOWS
- cannot cost an arm and leg (or any other parts <g>)
- need some sort of sort card again to go with both systems
- good reference encyclopedia type ref (for my kids)
Any and all ideas are appreciated. I realize the CDROM for OS2 might narrow
things somewhat and the costs might be too high but I figured might as well see
what is around. I would even consider two complete CDROMS (to avoid moving
around) as long as they are reasonable enough for me to afford (especially if
one costs as much as two of another brand). Okay all you CD wizzes, so what is
available?
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 2957
To: PAUL LAWRENCE Date: 09/10/93 12:46p
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PL=>HELLO ANYONE THAT HAS A SHAREWARE CD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF JUS
PL=>WRITE ME OR CALL ME AT SPLINTERS! MULTI-BBS AT 813-458-5399 AND LEAVE ME A
PL=>MESSAGE AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU THANX .
I can get you any CD you want, give me your mailing address and i'll
send you a list.
Adrian Salas
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 2958
To: TRAVIS MOGNET Date: 09/10/93 1:12p
Subj: NightOwl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TM=> So, Who Where When and all that sorta stuff might I find NightOwl 9 ?
TM=> Travis Mognet
Right here $29.00 plus $5 S/H.
Send Order to:
****** AS ROMS ******
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * We're professionals. Do NOT try this at home.
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From: PETER RALLIS Number: 2959
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/10/93 6:17a
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Good show!
peter...
... Tony Stott: The first Aussie born without a sense of humor.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2960
To: MATTHEW THOMPSON Date: 09/08/93 12:34p
Subj: ISO 9660 WANTED CHEAP :) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I'm working on a freeware program to read the CD-ROM files with a SCSI driver
>package I'm working on... but I don't have the $60+ that ISO wants for a bona
>fide copy of the ISO 9660. Does anybody know where I could get the info on
the
>cheap somehow
Thom Hogan's "PC Programmer's Referance" has that data buried away in it
somewhere, in a minimalist format....
* SLMR 2.1a * Tresspassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2961
To: JOE SLIFER Date: 09/09/93 4:16p
Subj: CD-ROM HELP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>An 8-bit card comes with a *double* speed drive? How does this affect the
>drives performance?
Likely not at all - you're only talking 300Kbytes/second, after all - WELL
within the capabilities of an 8 bit card (I've heard of an 8 bit RLL card
that would handle appx. 350K/sec, and the 8-bit Silicon Valley IDE card will
handle ballpark 500-600K by report)....
* SLMR 2.1a * We're staying together for the sake of the Cats....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2962
To: MATT CHAPMAN Date: 09/09/93 4:19p
Subj: NON MM CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Can anyone point out a CD-ROM drive (ide) that is suited for non multimedia
>uses.
Nope - there are exactly ZERO CD-ROMs with an IDE interface to date - and due
to the severe limitations of the IDE interface, I doubt that anyone will ever
come out with such a drive.
> ie: does not require a sound card (such as the prop SB), reasonably cheap,
Mitsumi bundles a controller card with their drives - propriatary interface,
though, that (at least currently) can't chain more than one drive per card. The
price is about the lowest on the market, though.
You might be better off with one of the Panasonic double-spin drives though,
with the Panasonic propriatary interface (they also bundle a card with that
particular version of the drive(s) in question)....
* SLMR 2.1a * Sorry, my Karma ran over your Dogma....
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2963
To: JOHNM OSBORNE Date: 09/09/93 5:32p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm not going to quote your message and questions about the PAStudio16xl as
this is not directly related to that.
Just want you (and others) to know that Media Vision is a good buy. The WSJ
had an article yesterday that stated Apple Computer is offering multimedia
upgrade kits and choose to use MV chips in its product. Another plus for MV.
It won the Editors Choice award over SB a couple of months back.
I have the PAStudio16 and I love it.
Mike
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2964
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 09/09/93 5:38p
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Daniel Prince to All dated 09-05-93 ***
> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
>
> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
The difference between the Spectrum and the Studio is less distortion, better
sound, and SCSI-1 (Spectrum) and SCSI-2 (Studio). I have the Studio and love
it. I have it hooked up to a Texel external CD-ROM and I have no problems at
all.
Most sound cards need a driver to mimick (sp?) another sound card. I have the
MVSOUND.SYS driver loaded high with 386MAX. I am having some problems with
386MAX but cannot trace it to the driver. I just looked at a memory map and it
shows 11K. (I am using Windows so it is not loaded high now so size may vary
slightly.) I have not found anything yet that is SB that the PAS16 won't run.
That is not to say it will absolutely run everything. Just to say mainline
stuff should not be a problem. Also, the SCSI drive is standard, not special.
Mike
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2965
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/09/93 5:43p
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Robert Prohl to All dated 09-06-93 ***
> Hey people.. gotta question..
>
> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
> the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
> teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I
> could
> just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
>
> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
> autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
Just quickly off the top of my head, do you have a last drive parameter set in
CONFIG.SYS? Also, when you install software it may code a drive letter in some
software system type file. Also, have you coordinated the CD-ROM driver and
the MSCDEX parm lines? I just looked and my driver does not have a drive line
but it does have a "code" on it. Has it changed in any way?
Hope this helps along with others ideas. If not, post more info on what the
config.sys and autoexec.bat lines for the driver and mscdex look like.
Mike
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 2966
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 09/10/93 5:12a
Subj: Re: Aust CD Seller. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07 Sep 93 14:59:00, I heard Victor Zdanowicz shout to All:
VZ> Can anyone tell me about a good CD-ROM distributer?... I am moslty interset
VZ> in Cd's filled with vga 1024x768 grahpic's......... gifs.
VZ>
VZ> Vz thanks..
Yes, if you send me your info, I will have them get in touch with you.
.....|<evin
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From: CHRIS MOORE Number: 2967
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 09/09/93 12:48p
Subj: MITSUMI OS/2 DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Steve
> How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
> I am interested in purchasing it.
I have a copy on my BBS. If the BBS you're using lets you FREQ files, please
feel free to request it from me (1:244/110). It's called OS2_LU.ZIP.
Chris
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2968
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/10/93 9:46p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* I would like more info on the 562B / 563 Panasonic CD-ROM dirve *
=======================================
I know it is multisession Kodak Photo CD compatible ( I hope ) but are drivers
available from Panasonic for it to work under OS/2 2.1 at the moment that you
know of? Could you possibly if possible find out where in Canada this drive is
available because none of the local dealers know or ever heard of the existence
of this particular model...
=======================================
If it is more convenient for you or your members, my fax # will be available on
tuesday sept. 14 at 819-682-9503...
=======================================
Chris
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2969
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/10/93 9:50p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Let me know how this driver works for you under OS/2 2.1... I am really
considering to buy this particular model drive...
Chris
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2970
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/10/93 10:18p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There is no difference whatsoever between the 562B and 563 as I read in this
echo. The 563 if the sales # for Creative Labs which represents the 562B...
Chris
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2971
To: HENRY PAUL